[DeTomaso] Fwd: Don Byars and what he did to me and my Pantera

Jack Donahue demongusta at me.com
Tue Feb 4 22:23:04 EST 2014



>  
> Wow!! -  here too. There's something wrong here.
> Jack
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> On Feb 4, 2014, at 8:03 AM, Jørn C. Olsen wrote:
> 
>> WOW!!!!
>> Don Byars should respond on this!
>>  
>> J.C.
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>> Fra: DeTomaso [mailto:detomaso-bounces at poca.com] På vegne av Ed Mendez
>> Sendt: 4. februar 2014 11:01
>> Til: detomaso at poca.com
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>> Emne: [DeTomaso] Don Byars and what he did to me and my Pantera
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>> To All Pantera Owners Worldwide,
>>  
>> You should all ready this, so this does not happen to you. 
>>  
>> As of now Don Byars refuses to help me or repair any of the damage he did to my Pantera after paying him $42,000 over the last two years! It is shameful behaviour!
>>  
>> Mike Drew was going to feature my car in Profiles. Sorry but I would rather you did not. Don deserves no advertising.
>>  
>> Read below how Don held my car as ransom, extorted $6000 more dollars out of me, and made me sign a waiver releasing him of all warranty for work he completed.
>>  
>> Now I am in another country, I have dumped my car on a friend to finish, and I am out of a lot of cash.
>>  
>> I guess he did not realise that I have 300+ Pantera friends worldwide on Facebook. I guess he will soon.
>>  
>> Ed
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>>  
>> Begin forwarded message:
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>> 
>> From: "Patterson, Lee R." <LEE.R.PATTERSON at saic.com>
>> Subject: RE: [SDP] Hi Everyone please read
>> Date: 4 February 2014 17:41:57 NZDT
>> To: Kevin Ryniker <durland at san.rr.com>, 'Westmicro' <westmicro at aol.com>, "mikebecker at cox.net" <mikebecker at cox.net>, "edducati at mac.com" <edducati at mac.com>, "sdpanteras at googlegroups.com" <sdpanteras at googlegroups.com>
>> Cc: "Patterson, Lee R." <LEE.R.PATTERSON at saic.com>
>>  
>> I can only relate the time I called him to purchase a very small, inexpensive part for my car.  His response was “that’s all you want to buy?” to which I said yes.  He then sighed and reluctantly took my order.  Upon receipt, the part was a poorly reproduced version of the original part, the art work was off-center and after attempting to “fix” it myself, I threw it in the trash.  So my only experience with him was he was uninterested in my business and the product he sold and represented me was shit.  So no, I will not call him ever again because to me, that behavior speaks to total lack of INTEGRITY AND ETHICS.  I hope the $12,000 you bought from him were better than my $25. part.
>>  
>> From: sdpanteras at googlegroups.com [mailto:sdpanteras at googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Kevin Ryniker
>> Sent: Monday, February 03, 2014 8:30 PM
>> To: 'Westmicro'; mikebecker at cox.net; edducati at mac.com; sdpanteras at googlegroups.com
>> Subject: RE: [SDP] Hi Everyone please read
>>  
>> I Have to agree with Mike to the extent that there must be something else going on. This sounds like a cash flow crunch, he is acting like a producer on a show that got in over his head.
>>  
>> I known Bobby Buyers for 10 years at least, never had a problem, I’ve easily bought $12,000 worth of parts from him. He has always stood behind his work and his dealings with me. He even warranty parts that I got from Wilkenson and Hall, for free, expensive stuff. Never really delt with Don but I think he is Don’s brother, they used to be in business with each other, might be worthwhile to call Bobby. Just an idea.
>>  
>> Any help I can aid in please feel free to ask.
>>  
>> <image001.jpg> Durland Productions
>> Kevin Ryniker, Cell (858) 336 9803
>> Phone (858) 693 6207, Fax (858) 693 6227
>> 8766 Betelgeuse Way, San Diego, CA 92126
>> www.durlandproductions.com
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>> From: sdpanteras at googlegroups.com [mailto:sdpanteras at googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Westmicro
>> Sent: Monday, February 03, 2014 7:47 PM
>> To: mikebecker at cox.net; edducati at mac.com; sdpanteras at googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: [SDP] Hi Everyone please read
>>  
>> Please pass all this on to Don.
>> Maybe this will make him realize what he has done here, and he will make it right.
>> Reputation and doing the right thing is Everything in Business.
>> 
>> Dave Nuding
>> Western Micrographics & Imaging Systems
>> Houston / San Diego
>> 858-722-5500
>> http://www.westernmicrographics.com
>>  
>>  
>> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Michael Becker <mikebecker at cox.net>
>> To: 'Ed Mendez' <edducati at mac.com>; 'San Diego Panteras' <sdpanteras at googlegroups.com>
>> Sent: Mon, Feb 3, 2014 8:35 pm
>> Subject: RE: [SDP] Hi Everyone please read
>> 
>> Holy crap, that's terrible Ed.  So sorry to hear this.  I don't understand,
>> I've never heard a bad thing about Don.  I've also never had any work done
>> by him, but the general perception is that his work speaks for itself.  I
>> can't imagine what his reasoning is.  I don't have any kind of relationship
>> with him, so I don't really feel I could speak to him.  Maybe something just
>> got into him and he needs time to realize the pickle he's put you in.  Maybe
>> he's got some other troubles and sort of reached a breaking point or
>> something like that.  Perhaps he'll come around and somehow make good on it.
>> I would hold off on slinging mud until all options for reconciliation are
>> exhausted. 
>> Hang in there, 
>> Mike
>>  
>>  
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: sdpanteras at googlegroups.com [mailto:sdpanteras at googlegroups.com] On
>> Behalf Of Ed Mendez
>> Sent: Monday, February 03, 2014 4:39 PM
>> To: San Diego Panteras
>> Subject: [SDP] Hi Everyone please read
>>  
>>  
>> Hi all,
>>  
>> Made it to New Zealand and started work. Still a bit jet lagged but that is
>> nothing compared to how I feel from what Don Byars did to me before I left.
>>  
>> After paying Don $36,000 in cash and up front and paying my final invoiced
>> bill on Jan. 22nd. There were some electrical issues from the Pantera
>> Electronics parts I bought. There were two blown up boards, Pantera not
>> charging, and several other issues. This was NOT from Pantera Electronics
>> however, it was from Don not following the simple directions and hooking
>> things up wrong. So he spent the next four days trying to sort out the
>> issues. On the 28th he called me and said come and get this car out of my
>> shop! I asked if it was done, he said no, and it is not running either. He
>> verbally told me on the 22nd that it would be about $2000 more and he would
>> have it all finished including the seats bolted in on the seat rails, the
>> seat belts, and all be working. What he told me on the phone shocked me. He
>> said that I now owed him an additional $6300 and that knowing I was leaving,
>> he wanted cash, and would not release the car until I paid him in full! 
>>  
>> I have always paid him up front, and in advance. Since I was leaving the
>> country, he gave me no choice, I had to come up with cash. He delivered the
>> car to me, backed it out of his trailer still hooked to the cable, I then
>> paid him in full and he refused to unhook the car until I signed a waiver
>> releasing him of any work related defects!!!
>>  
>> He treated me like a criminal and EXTORTED $6000 from me!
>>  
>> Now the car is sitting in Vista, Ca. The seats were not bolted in, the belts
>> were not done, seat rails, scratches in my paint under the hood, he left my
>> brand new air compressor disconnected and exposed to air. The car runs but
>> electrically a mess, far from being done, and far from being in a state of
>> condition for the money I paid him.
>>  
>> Don Byars is a thief to the Nth degree! And he did all this in front of
>> whom? The new President of POCA!
>>  
>> Just wondering if he is completely stupid!? I just wonder what I did, I was
>> utterly insulted. What did I do to deserve this? His wife told me Don was
>> mad because I did not let him finish the car!!!??? I paid him a total of
>> $42,000. He knew the drop dead date months before I was leaving. Even John Haas of Pantera Electronics offered to help, Don did not call him once!!! I asked John Haas to call him.
>> At this point my car is in the care of John Buckman, if anyone can please
>> offer any assistance, I have to get it in a somewhat completed state to ship
>> overseas. 
>>  
>> Please spread the word. If I were there I could do something, all I have is
>> you guys to spread the word about what he did to me.
>>  
>> Kind regards,
>>  
>> Ed Mendez
>>  
>> Sent from my iPad
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