[DeTomaso] Don Byars and what he did to me and my Pantera

Tue Feb 4 22:05:06 EST 2014

That's a lot of dirty laundry.  Don might have a reason for being late and
the cost overruns.  Life interruptions are not an excuse but it might be a
reason.  He does owe you an itemized list of what they were but it sounds
like both of you might be too angry to take care of this.

One of my friends bought an ancient hearse and wanted it fixed up.  Another
friend was starting up a small car restoration shop and gave a quote to fix
the hearse and money changed hands.

The shop owner was in *way* over his head and sold the motor out of the
hearse to try to cover costs.  The project was delayed and delayed.  Then
they stopped speaking to each other.  Because of the contract, the shop
owner really needed to eat the cost and deliver the hearse as promised but
that never happened.

Years later one of his shop helpers got jazzed about actually finishing
such a cool ride and sanded all the paint off.  Instead of sealing the car
in primer and paint, it was moved outside to make room for other projects.
It sits outside still... rusting.  And my friends still don't talk.
Neither one is happy.

I'm glad you have your car but communication is so important for these
jobs.  It looks like that ran into problems and was never repaired.  Cant
fix that with money but I hope you can at least resolve why it went down
this way.  I really doubt that Don is happy about it either.

sean

On Tue, Feb 4, 2014 at 5:02 AM, Ed Mendez <edducati at mac.com> wrote:

> To All Pantera Owners Worldwide,
>
> You should all ready this, so this does not happen to you.
>
> As of now Don Byars refuses to help me or repair any of the damage he did
> to my Pantera after paying him $42,000 over the last two years! It is
> shameful behaviour!
>
> Mike Drew was going to feature my car in Profiles. Sorry but I would
> rather you did not. Don deserves no advertising.
>
> Read below how Don held my car as ransom, extorted $6000 more dollars out
> of me, and made me sign a waiver releasing him of all warranty for work he
> completed.
>
> Now I am in another country, I have dumped my car on a friend to finish,
> and I am out of a lot of cash.
>
> I guess he did not realise that I have 300+ Pantera friends worldwide on
> Facebook. I guess he will soon.
>
> Ed
>
>
> Begin forwarded message:
>
> *From: *"Patterson, Lee R." <LEE.R.PATTERSON at saic.com>
> *Subject: **RE: [SDP] Hi Everyone please read*
> *Date: *4 February 2014 17:41:57 NZDT
> *To: *Kevin Ryniker <durland at san.rr.com>, 'Westmicro' <westmicro at aol.com>,
> "mikebecker at cox.net" <mikebecker at cox.net>, "edducati at mac.com" <
> edducati at mac.com>, "sdpanteras at googlegroups.com" <
> sdpanteras at googlegroups.com>
> *Cc: *"Patterson, Lee R." <LEE.R.PATTERSON at saic.com>
>
> I can only relate the time I called him to purchase a very small,
> inexpensive part for my car.  His response was "that's all you want to
> buy?" to which I said yes.  He then sighed and reluctantly took my order.
> Upon receipt, the part was a poorly reproduced version of the original
> part, the art work was off-center and after attempting to "fix" it myself,
> I threw it in the trash.  So my only experience with him was he was
> uninterested in my business and the product he sold and represented me was
> shit.  So no, I will not call him ever again because to me, that behavior
> speaks to total lack of INTEGRITY AND ETHICS.  I hope the $12,000 you
> bought from him were better than my $25. part.
>
> *From:* sdpanteras at googlegroups.com [mailto:sdpanteras at googlegroups.com<sdpanteras at googlegroups.com>
> ] *On Behalf Of *Kevin Ryniker
> *Sent:* Monday, February 03, 2014 8:30 PM
> *To:* 'Westmicro'; mikebecker at cox.net; edducati at mac.com;
> sdpanteras at googlegroups.com
> *Subject:* RE: [SDP] Hi Everyone please read
>
> I Have to agree with Mike to the extent that there must be something else
> going on. This sounds like a cash flow crunch, he is acting like a producer
> on a show that got in over his head.
>
> I known Bobby Buyers for 10 years at least, never had a problem, I've
> easily bought $12,000 worth of parts from him. He has always stood behind
> his work and his dealings with me. He even warranty parts that I got from
> Wilkenson and Hall, for free, expensive stuff. Never really delt with Don
> but I think he is Don's brother, they used to be in business with each
> other, might be worthwhile to call Bobby. Just an idea.
>
> Any help I can aid in please feel free to ask.
>
>  Durland Productions
> Kevin Ryniker, Cell (858) 336 9803
> Phone (858) 693 6207, Fax (858) 693 6227
> 8766 Betelgeuse Way, San Diego, CA 92126
> www.durlandproductions.com
>
>
>
> *From:* sdpanteras at googlegroups.com [mailto:sdpanteras at googlegroups.com<sdpanteras at googlegroups.com>
> ] *On Behalf Of *Westmicro
> *Sent:* Monday, February 03, 2014 7:47 PM
> *To:* mikebecker at cox.net; edducati at mac.com; sdpanteras at googlegroups.com
> *Subject:* Re: [SDP] Hi Everyone please read
>
> Please pass all this on to Don.
> Maybe this will make him realize what he has done here, and he will make
> it right.
>
> Reputation and doing the right thing is Everything in Business.
> *Dave Nuding*
> *Western Micrographics & Imaging Systems*
> *Houston / San Diego*
> *858-722-5500 <858-722-5500>*
> *http://www.westernmicrographics.com
> <http://www.westernmicrographics.com/>*
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Michael Becker <mikebecker at cox.net>
> To: 'Ed Mendez' <edducati at mac.com>; 'San Diego Panteras' <
> sdpanteras at googlegroups.com>
> Sent: Mon, Feb 3, 2014 8:35 pm
> Subject: RE: [SDP] Hi Everyone please read
>
> Holy crap, that's terrible Ed.  So sorry to hear this.  I don't understand,
>
> I've never heard a bad thing about Don.  I've also never had any work done
>
> by him, but the general perception is that his work speaks for itself.  I
>
> can't imagine what his reasoning is.  I don't have any kind of relationship
>
> with him, so I don't really feel I could speak to him.  Maybe something just
>
> got into him and he needs time to realize the pickle he's put you in.  Maybe
>
> he's got some other troubles and sort of reached a breaking point or
>
> something like that.  Perhaps he'll come around and somehow make good on it.
>
> I would hold off on slinging mud until all options for reconciliation are
>
> exhausted.
>
> Hang in there,
>
> Mike
>
>
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
>
> From: sdpanteras at googlegroups.com [mailto:sdpanteras at googlegroups.com <sdpanteras at googlegroups.com?>] On
>
> Behalf Of Ed Mendez
>
> Sent: Monday, February 03, 2014 4:39 PM
>
> To: San Diego Panteras
>
> Subject: [SDP] Hi Everyone please read
>
>
>
>
>
> Hi all,
>
>
>
> Made it to New Zealand and started work. Still a bit jet lagged but that is
>
> nothing compared to how I feel from what Don Byars did to me before I left.
>
>
>
> After paying Don $36,000 in cash and up front and paying my final invoiced
>
> bill on Jan. 22nd. There were some electrical issues from the Pantera
>
> Electronics parts I bought. There were two blown up boards, Pantera not
>
> charging, and several other issues. This was NOT from Pantera Electronics
>
> however, it was from Don not following the simple directions and hooking
>
> things up wrong. So he spent the next four days trying to sort out the
>
> issues. On the 28th he called me and said come and get this car out of my
>
> shop! I asked if it was done, he said no, and it is not running either. He
>
> verbally told me on the 22nd that it would be about $2000 more and he would
>
> have it all finished including the seats bolted in on the seat rails, the
>
> seat belts, and all be working. What he told me on the phone shocked me. He
>
> said that I now owed him an additional $6300 and that knowing I was leaving,
>
> he wanted cash, and would not release the car until I paid him in full!
>
>
>
> I have always paid him up front, and in advance. Since I was leaving the
>
> country, he gave me no choice, I had to come up with cash. He delivered the
>
> car to me, backed it out of his trailer still hooked to the cable, I then
>
> paid him in full and he refused to unhook the car until I signed a waiver
>
> releasing him of any work related defects!!!
>
>
>
> He treated me like a criminal and EXTORTED $6000 from me!
>
>
>
> Now the car is sitting in Vista, Ca. The seats were not bolted in, the belts
>
> were not done, seat rails, scratches in my paint under the hood, he left my
>
> brand new air compressor disconnected and exposed to air. The car runs but
>
> electrically a mess, far from being done, and far from being in a state of
>
> condition for the money I paid him.
>
>
>
> Don Byars is a thief to the Nth degree! And he did all this in front of
>
> whom? The new President of POCA!
>
>
>
> Just wondering if he is completely stupid!? I just wonder what I did, I was
>
> utterly insulted. What did I do to deserve this? His wife told me Don was
>
> mad because I did not let him finish the car!!!??? I paid him a total of
>
> $42,000. He knew the drop dead date months before I was leaving. Even John Haas of Pantera Electronics offered to help, Don did not call him once!!! I asked John Haas to call him.
>
> At this point my car is in the care of John Buckman, if anyone can please
>
> offer any assistance, I have to get it in a somewhat completed state to ship
>
> overseas.
>
>
>
> Please spread the word. If I were there I could do something, all I have is
>
> you guys to spread the word about what he did to me.
>
>
>
> Kind regards,
>
>
>
> Ed Mendez
>
>
>
> Sent from my iPad
>
>
>
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Sean Korb spkorb at spkorb.org http://www.spkorb.org
'65,'68 Mustangs,'68 Cougar,'78 R100/7,'60 Metro,'59 A35,'71 Pantera #1382
"The more you drive, the less intelligent you get" --Miller
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