[DeTomaso] Techno Question: Shift Linkage U joints

Dave Londry davel at emspace.com
Sat Dec 20 13:44:41 EST 2014


Hey here's a story from the old days.
Everyone assembling printed circuit boards used to clean the flux off 
them with trichloroethylene.
I mean standing around with a tub and scrub brush for a few pcbs
  and dip tubs that immersed racks of boards in heated trichloroethylene.
We thought the fumes were bad for the liver so ventilation was pretty 
good but had no idea that a powering up a not-quite-dry pcb with a short 
on it could have killed up PDQ.
dave

On 20/12/2014 10:35 AM, Dave Londry wrote:
> That's it - it's welding temperatures that break down the 
> trichloroethylene.
> You can boil it - but I don't recommend that anyway.
> dave
>
>
> On 20/12/2014 10:03 AM, Asa Jay Laughton wrote:
>> Brain damage nothin'...
>>
>> Phosgene gas possibly generated could kill you:
>>
>> http://bbs.homeshopmachinist.net/threads/35736-Brake-cleaner-and-welding-safety-issue 
>>
>>
>> http://www.brewracingframes.com/safety-alert-brake-cleaner--phosgene-gas.html 
>>
>>
>> Asa Jay
>>
>> Asa Jay Laughton, MSgt, USAFR, Retired
>> &  Shelley Marie
>> Spokane, WA
>> ******************************
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>> On 12/20/2014 9:30 AM, Boyd Casey wrote:
>>>     Your right Larry. I remember reading that the chemicals when heated
>>>     went through a chemical reaction that created a highly toxic neuro
>>>     toxin that could do permanent brain damage. Most of us have all the
>>>     brain Damage we can stand! So good looking out and remembering that
>>>     important info.A
>>>     Boyd
>>>
>>>     On Sat, Dec 20, 2014 at 9:56 AM, Larry - Ohio Time
>>>     <[1]Larry at ohiotimecorp.com>  wrote:
>>>
>>>       Hi Chuck,
>>>       I would not use the brake clean around any flames. A few years 
>>> ago
>>>       there
>>>       were all kinds of stories of some very very bad fumes from the
>>>       chemicals
>>>       when exposed to flame. After reading that, I tossed out all brake
>>>       cleaner
>>>       cans in my shop and use gumout carb cleaner for that kind of work
>>>       Larry - Cleveland
>>>
>>>     -----Original Message-----
>>>     From: DeTomaso [mailto:[2]detomaso-bounces at poca.com] On Behalf Of
>>>     Charles
>>>     Engles
>>>     Sent: Friday, December 19, 2014 7:15 PM
>>>     To: [3]doug351c at gmail.com
>>>     Cc: 'De Tomaso List'
>>>     Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Techno Question: Shift Linkage U joints
>>>     Dear Doug,
>>>     A  A  A  A  A  Hmmm.A  Low cost.A  Low tech.A  No downside.A  A 
>>> I think
>>>     I will try it.
>>>     Thanks for the "hot" oil tip!
>>>     A  A  A  A  A  A  A  A  A  A  A  A  A  Warmest regards, Chuck 
>>> Engles
>>>     -----Original Message-----
>>>     From: doug351c [mailto:[4]doug351c at gmail.com]
>>>     Sent: Friday, December 19, 2014 12:32 PM
>>>     To: Charles Engles
>>>     Cc: De Tomaso List
>>>     Subject: RE: [DeTomaso] Techno Question: Shift Linkage U joints
>>>     Chuck,
>>>     I had VERY GOOD RESULTS with the following treatment:
>>>     Punch Mark the u-joints and shafts so you can reassemble them 
>>> the way
>>>     they
>>>     were.
>>>     Remove the u-joints from their shafts.
>>>     Clean the u-joints with Braklean.
>>>     Apply pentrating oil once a day for 3 days.
>>>     Re-clean with Braklean.
>>>     This lossened them up but they got even better after this last step
>>>     that
>>>     will make your wife cringe.A  BTW, have a fire extinguisher handy.
>>>     After subjecting them to the regimen above, put the joints in a 
>>> small
>>>     pan of
>>>     Mobil 1 0W/30; just enough to completely cover the joints.A 
>>> Place the
>>>     pan on
>>>     one of your range's burners and turn on the overhead vent 
>>> hood.A  Heat
>>>     the
>>>     oil until it either begins to smoke or boil (mine lightly smoked 
>>> and
>>>     then
>>>     began to boil).A  Then turn off the heat and get out of the kitchen
>>>     before
>>>     you wife catches you!A  A Let it cool overnight and when you 
>>> take them
>>>     out of
>>>     the oil, the slow cool will have caused oil to remain in the jont.
>>>     If you happen to have a hotplate, doing this outdoors makes even 
>>> more
>>>     sense.
>>>     I did this to my u-joints about 15 years ago and they're still 
>>> working
>>>     very
>>>     free.
>>>     PS: This is a trick that one of our more knowledgeable forum 
>>> members,
>>>     Jeff
>>>     Kimball, taught me.
>>>     Doug Braun
>>>     blue 73L #5505
>>>     -----Original Message-----
>>>     From: DeTomaso [mailto:[5]detomaso-bounces at poca.com]On Behalf Of 
>>> Julian
>>>     Kift
>>>     Sent: Thursday, December 18, 2014 3:42 PM
>>>     To: Charles Engles; 'Boyd Casey'
>>>     Cc: De Tomaso List
>>>     Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Techno Question: Shift Linkage U joints
>>>     Chuck,
>>>     Have you tried soaking them in a solvent or penetrating fluid?
>>>     Julian
>>>     From: [6]cengles at cox.net
>>>     To: [7]boyd411 at gmail.com
>>>     Date: Thu, 18 Dec 2014 17:28:52 -0600
>>>     CC: [8]detomaso at poca.com
>>>     Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Techno Question: Shift Linkage U joints
>>>     Dear Boyd,
>>>     A  A  A  A  A  A  A  A  A  A  A  A  A  Yes, I am familiar with 
>>> them as
>>>     well as the PPC
>>>     price of $300 for a set for the shift linkage.A  A I want to see if
>>>     there is a
>>>     less expensive way to improve the OEM part before I take the 
>>> plunge for
>>>     the
>>>     Flaming River U joint jewelry.
>>>     A  A  A  A  A  A  A  A  A  A  A  A  A  A  A  A  A  A  A  A A  A  
>>> A  A
>>>     Warmest regards, Chuck
>>>     Engles
>>>     From: Boyd Casey [mailto:[9]boyd411 at gmail.com]
>>>     Sent: Thursday, December 18, 2014 4:57 PM
>>>     To: Charles Engles
>>>     Cc: [10]detomaso at poca.com
>>>     Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Techno Question: Shift Linkage U joints
>>>     Charles,
>>>     There is a company that makes a replacement linkage that can be 
>>> used
>>>     for the
>>>     shifter and the steering column.
>>>     There name is flaming river. Dennis Quella sells there stuff. It is
>>>     beautiful.well made and has roller bearings in the U joints and I
>>>     believe
>>>     the are available is SS steel.
>>>     Here is a link.[11]http://www.flamingriver.com/index.php/products
>>>     BOYD
>>>     On Thu, Dec 18, 2014 at 5:21 PM, Charles 
>>> Engles<[12]cengles at cox.net>
>>>     wrote:
>>>     A  A Dear Forum,
>>>     A  A  A  A  A  A  A  A  A  A  A  A  A  A  A  After inspecting my 
>>> shift
>>>     linkage U joints,
>>>     A  A I found them surprisingly stiff.A  A  Treatment with various
>>>     lubricants
>>>     A  A failed to change things.A  I recently examined another set 
>>> of U
>>>     joints
>>>     A  A and found the same condition.
>>>     A  A  A  A  A  A  A  A  A  A  A  A  A  A  A  Is it possible to
>>>     dis-assemble the U joints
>>>     A  A for more effective lubrication -or for machine shop
>>>     modification---in
>>>     A  A order to eliminate the built in stiffness and resistance of 
>>> the
>>>     factory
>>>     A  A U joints?A  A  I would think that it would improve the 
>>> function of
>>>     the
>>>     A  A shift linkage.
>>>     A  A  A  A  A  A  A  A  A  A  A  A  A  A  A  A  A  A  A  A Warmest
>>>     regards, ChuckA  Engles
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>>> References
>>>
>>>     1. mailto:Larry at ohiotimecorp.com
>>>     2. mailto:detomaso-bounces at poca.com
>>>     3. mailto:doug351c at gmail.com
>>>     4. mailto:doug351c at gmail.com
>>>     5. mailto:detomaso-bounces at poca.com
>>>     6. mailto:cengles at cox.net
>>>     7. mailto:boyd411 at gmail.com
>>>     8. mailto:detomaso at poca.com
>>>     9. mailto:boyd411 at gmail.com
>>>    10. mailto:detomaso at poca.com
>>>    11. http://www.flamingriver.com/index.php/products
>>>    12. mailto:cengles at cox.net
>>>    13. mailto:DeTomaso at poca.com
>>>    14. http://poca.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso_poca.com
>>>    15. mailto:DeTomaso at poca.com
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