[DeTomaso] Techno Question: Shift Linkage U joints

Boyd Casey boyd411 at gmail.com
Sat Dec 20 12:30:14 EST 2014


Your right Larry. I remember reading that the chemicals when heated went
through a chemical reaction that created a highly toxic neuro toxin that
could do permanent brain damage. Most of us have all the brain Damage we
can stand! So good looking out and remembering that important info.
Boyd

On Sat, Dec 20, 2014 at 9:56 AM, Larry - Ohio Time <Larry at ohiotimecorp.com>
wrote:
>
> Hi Chuck,
>
> I would not use the brake clean around any flames. A few years ago there
> were all kinds of stories of some very very bad fumes from the chemicals
> when exposed to flame. After reading that, I tossed out all brake cleaner
> cans in my shop and use gumout carb cleaner for that kind of work
>
> Larry - Cleveland
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: DeTomaso [mailto:detomaso-bounces at poca.com] On Behalf Of Charles
> Engles
> Sent: Friday, December 19, 2014 7:15 PM
> To: doug351c at gmail.com
> Cc: 'De Tomaso List'
> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Techno Question: Shift Linkage U joints
>
> Dear Doug,
>
>
>           Hmmm.  Low cost.  Low tech.  No downside.   I think I will try
> it.
> Thanks for the "hot" oil tip!
>
>
>                           Warmest regards, Chuck Engles
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: doug351c [mailto:doug351c at gmail.com]
> Sent: Friday, December 19, 2014 12:32 PM
> To: Charles Engles
> Cc: De Tomaso List
> Subject: RE: [DeTomaso] Techno Question: Shift Linkage U joints
>
> Chuck,
>
> I had VERY GOOD RESULTS with the following treatment:
>
> Punch Mark the u-joints and shafts so you can reassemble them the way they
> were.
> Remove the u-joints from their shafts.
> Clean the u-joints with Braklean.
> Apply pentrating oil once a day for 3 days.
> Re-clean with Braklean.
>
> This lossened them up but they got even better after this last step that
> will make your wife cringe.  BTW, have a fire extinguisher handy.
>
> After subjecting them to the regimen above, put the joints in a small pan
> of
> Mobil 1 0W/30; just enough to completely cover the joints.  Place the pan
> on
> one of your range's burners and turn on the overhead vent hood.  Heat the
> oil until it either begins to smoke or boil (mine lightly smoked and then
> began to boil).  Then turn off the heat and get out of the kitchen before
> you wife catches you!   Let it cool overnight and when you take them out of
> the oil, the slow cool will have caused oil to remain in the jont.
>
> If you happen to have a hotplate, doing this outdoors makes even more
> sense.
>
> I did this to my u-joints about 15 years ago and they're still working very
> free.
>
> PS: This is a trick that one of our more knowledgeable forum members, Jeff
> Kimball, taught me.
>
> Doug Braun
> blue 73L #5505
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: DeTomaso [mailto:detomaso-bounces at poca.com]On Behalf Of Julian Kift
> Sent: Thursday, December 18, 2014 3:42 PM
> To: Charles Engles; 'Boyd Casey'
> Cc: De Tomaso List
> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Techno Question: Shift Linkage U joints
>
>
> Chuck,
> Have you tried soaking them in a solvent or penetrating fluid?
> Julian
>
> From: cengles at cox.net
> To: boyd411 at gmail.com
> Date: Thu, 18 Dec 2014 17:28:52 -0600
> CC: detomaso at poca.com
> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Techno Question: Shift Linkage U joints
>
> Dear Boyd,
>
>
>
>
>
>                           Yes, I am familiar with them as well as the PPC
> price of $300 for a set for the shift linkage.   I want to see if there is
> a
> less expensive way to improve the OEM part before I take the plunge for the
> Flaming River U joint jewelry.
>
>
>
>                                                 Warmest regards, Chuck
> Engles
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> From: Boyd Casey [mailto:boyd411 at gmail.com]
> Sent: Thursday, December 18, 2014 4:57 PM
> To: Charles Engles
> Cc: detomaso at poca.com
> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Techno Question: Shift Linkage U joints
>
>
>
> Charles,
>
> There is a company that makes a replacement linkage that can be used for
> the
> shifter and the steering column.
>
> There name is flaming river. Dennis Quella sells there stuff. It is
> beautiful.well made and has roller bearings in the U joints and I believe
> the are available is SS steel.
>
> Here is a link.http://www.flamingriver.com/index.php/products
>
>
>
> BOYD
>
>
>
> On Thu, Dec 18, 2014 at 5:21 PM, Charles Engles <cengles at cox.net> wrote:
>
>    Dear Forum,
>
>
>
>                               After inspecting my shift linkage U joints,
>    I found them surprisingly stiff.    Treatment with various lubricants
>    failed to change things.  I recently examined another set of U joints
>    and found the same condition.
>
>
>
>                               Is it possible to dis-assemble the U joints
>    for more effective lubrication -or for machine shop modification---in
>    order to eliminate the built in stiffness and resistance of the factory
>    U joints?    I would think that it would improve the function of the
>    shift linkage.
>
>
>
>                                         Warmest regards, Chuck  Engles
>
>
>
>
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   Your right Larry. I remember reading that the chemicals when heated
   went through a chemical reaction that created a highly toxic neuro
   toxin that could do permanent brain damage. Most of us have all the
   brain Damage we can stand! So good looking out and remembering that
   important info.A
   Boyd

   On Sat, Dec 20, 2014 at 9:56 AM, Larry - Ohio Time
   <[1]Larry at ohiotimecorp.com> wrote:

     Hi Chuck,
     I would not use the brake clean around any flames. A few years ago
     there
     were all kinds of stories of some very very bad fumes from the
     chemicals
     when exposed to flame. After reading that, I tossed out all brake
     cleaner
     cans in my shop and use gumout carb cleaner for that kind of work
     Larry - Cleveland

   -----Original Message-----
   From: DeTomaso [mailto:[2]detomaso-bounces at poca.com] On Behalf Of
   Charles
   Engles
   Sent: Friday, December 19, 2014 7:15 PM
   To: [3]doug351c at gmail.com
   Cc: 'De Tomaso List'
   Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Techno Question: Shift Linkage U joints
   Dear Doug,
   A  A  A  A  A  Hmmm.A  Low cost.A  Low tech.A  No downside.A  A I think
   I will try it.
   Thanks for the "hot" oil tip!
   A  A  A  A  A  A  A  A  A  A  A  A  A  Warmest regards, Chuck Engles
   -----Original Message-----
   From: doug351c [mailto:[4]doug351c at gmail.com]
   Sent: Friday, December 19, 2014 12:32 PM
   To: Charles Engles
   Cc: De Tomaso List
   Subject: RE: [DeTomaso] Techno Question: Shift Linkage U joints
   Chuck,
   I had VERY GOOD RESULTS with the following treatment:
   Punch Mark the u-joints and shafts so you can reassemble them the way
   they
   were.
   Remove the u-joints from their shafts.
   Clean the u-joints with Braklean.
   Apply pentrating oil once a day for 3 days.
   Re-clean with Braklean.
   This lossened them up but they got even better after this last step
   that
   will make your wife cringe.A  BTW, have a fire extinguisher handy.
   After subjecting them to the regimen above, put the joints in a small
   pan of
   Mobil 1 0W/30; just enough to completely cover the joints.A  Place the
   pan on
   one of your range's burners and turn on the overhead vent hood.A  Heat
   the
   oil until it either begins to smoke or boil (mine lightly smoked and
   then
   began to boil).A  Then turn off the heat and get out of the kitchen
   before
   you wife catches you!A  A Let it cool overnight and when you take them
   out of
   the oil, the slow cool will have caused oil to remain in the jont.
   If you happen to have a hotplate, doing this outdoors makes even more
   sense.
   I did this to my u-joints about 15 years ago and they're still working
   very
   free.
   PS: This is a trick that one of our more knowledgeable forum members,
   Jeff
   Kimball, taught me.
   Doug Braun
   blue 73L #5505
   -----Original Message-----
   From: DeTomaso [mailto:[5]detomaso-bounces at poca.com]On Behalf Of Julian
   Kift
   Sent: Thursday, December 18, 2014 3:42 PM
   To: Charles Engles; 'Boyd Casey'
   Cc: De Tomaso List
   Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Techno Question: Shift Linkage U joints
   Chuck,
   Have you tried soaking them in a solvent or penetrating fluid?
   Julian
   From: [6]cengles at cox.net
   To: [7]boyd411 at gmail.com
   Date: Thu, 18 Dec 2014 17:28:52 -0600
   CC: [8]detomaso at poca.com
   Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Techno Question: Shift Linkage U joints
   Dear Boyd,
   A  A  A  A  A  A  A  A  A  A  A  A  A  Yes, I am familiar with them as
   well as the PPC
   price of $300 for a set for the shift linkage.A  A I want to see if
   there is a
   less expensive way to improve the OEM part before I take the plunge for
   the
   Flaming River U joint jewelry.
   A  A  A  A  A  A  A  A  A  A  A  A  A  A  A  A  A  A  A  A  A  A  A  A
   Warmest regards, Chuck
   Engles
   From: Boyd Casey [mailto:[9]boyd411 at gmail.com]
   Sent: Thursday, December 18, 2014 4:57 PM
   To: Charles Engles
   Cc: [10]detomaso at poca.com
   Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Techno Question: Shift Linkage U joints
   Charles,
   There is a company that makes a replacement linkage that can be used
   for the
   shifter and the steering column.
   There name is flaming river. Dennis Quella sells there stuff. It is
   beautiful.well made and has roller bearings in the U joints and I
   believe
   the are available is SS steel.
   Here is a link.[11]http://www.flamingriver.com/index.php/products
   BOYD
   On Thu, Dec 18, 2014 at 5:21 PM, Charles Engles <[12]cengles at cox.net>
   wrote:
   A  A Dear Forum,
   A  A  A  A  A  A  A  A  A  A  A  A  A  A  A  After inspecting my shift
   linkage U joints,
   A  A I found them surprisingly stiff.A  A  Treatment with various
   lubricants
   A  A failed to change things.A  I recently examined another set of U
   joints
   A  A and found the same condition.
   A  A  A  A  A  A  A  A  A  A  A  A  A  A  A  Is it possible to
   dis-assemble the U joints
   A  A for more effective lubrication -or for machine shop
   modification---in
   A  A order to eliminate the built in stiffness and resistance of the
   factory
   A  A U joints?A  A  I would think that it would improve the function of
   the
   A  A shift linkage.
   A  A  A  A  A  A  A  A  A  A  A  A  A  A  A  A  A  A  A  A  Warmest
   regards, ChuckA  Engles
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References

   1. mailto:Larry at ohiotimecorp.com
   2. mailto:detomaso-bounces at poca.com
   3. mailto:doug351c at gmail.com
   4. mailto:doug351c at gmail.com
   5. mailto:detomaso-bounces at poca.com
   6. mailto:cengles at cox.net
   7. mailto:boyd411 at gmail.com
   8. mailto:detomaso at poca.com
   9. mailto:boyd411 at gmail.com
  10. mailto:detomaso at poca.com
  11. http://www.flamingriver.com/index.php/products
  12. mailto:cengles at cox.net
  13. mailto:DeTomaso at poca.com
  14. http://poca.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso_poca.com
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