[DeTomaso] New engine

richard boschert theemonkey at yahoo.com
Mon Dec 8 19:11:35 EST 2014


Robert,

The exhaust is ceramic coated.

Yes i can take the valve covers off with the headers in place.

Ron McCall's email is,           rfmccall at comcast.net

Happy to help,Richard
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On Sun, 12/7/14, Robert Stroj <npdrs at maui.net> wrote:

 Subject: RE: [DeTomaso] New engine
 To: "'richard boschert'" <theemonkey at yahoo.com>
 Cc: "'detomaso mail list'" <detomaso at poca.com>
 Date: Sunday, December 7, 2014, 1:16 PM
 
 Hi Richard,
 
 thanks a lot, your system
 looks really nice!
 Is it stainless or
 ceramic coated?
 Is it possible to take the
 valve covers off and adjust the valves without
 taking headers off; this is important for me as
 i run solid lifters?
 
 Would
 you please maybe have contact for Ron; would like to see if
 he has or
 can make a system for my
 application?
 
 Thanks a
 lot,
 
 Robert
 
 -----Original Message-----
 From: richard boschert [mailto:theemonkey at yahoo.com]
 
 Sent: Saturday, December 06, 2014 6:49
 PM
 To: Robert Stroj
 Cc:
 'detomaso mail list'
 Subject: RE:
 [DeTomaso] New engine
 
 Robert,I have the Precision Proformance
 180's.
 
 My engine is a
 408 Windsor.   9.5 deck height,AFR 185
 heads,stock port
 location.
 
 Both Hall Pantera and
 Precision Proformance have 180 headers for Yates
 heads,but Halls exit in the corners so you can
 leave the air conditioning
 condenser in
 place.I do not like the Hall  corner exit as it sounds like
 a
 truck versus the the two exhaust pipes
 exiting together in the center sounds
 like
 a  wild V12.
 
 Link to short
 video clip of mine,
 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zXl5tdQqZLA&list=UUtdJuds1sRZCb1aKkPsb-Pg
 
 Attached are a few pics to
 show roughly how they fit in the engine
 bay.Ignore the dusty engine bay,i have not
 cleaned it since Laguna Seca.
 
 Everything i have seen that Ron Mcall does has
 been great,so if he is
 offering 180's
 that fit your heads, get his if you are able.
 
 Richard
 --------------------------------------------
 On Fri, 12/5/14, Robert Stroj <npdrs at maui.net>
 wrote:
 
  Subject: RE:
 [DeTomaso] New engine
  To:
 "'richard boschert'" <theemonkey at yahoo.com>
  Cc: "'detomaso mail list'"
 <detomaso at poca.com>
  Date: Friday, December 5, 2014, 3:57 PM
  
  Hi Richard,
 
 
  could you please let me know
  what 180 exhaust did you install?
  What
  engine (deck height) and
 heads combination do you have?
  A photo
 would be great!
  
  If I find
 a 180 system that bolts straight to  my 9.2 deck with Yates
 C3
 heads I might  consider going that
 route.
  
  Thanks, Robert
  
  -----Original
 Message-----
  From: richard boschert
 [mailto:theemonkey at yahoo.com]
  
  Sent: Thursday, December 04,
 2014 1:57
  PM
  To: detomaso
 mail list
  Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] New
 engine
  
  "Rich
 Boschert had
  ANSA-sized Flowmaster
 mufflers, but they were brutally  loud--they almost
 seemed like amplifiers rather  than
 mufflers!   And they  looked  terrible
 too."
  
 
 Hey,i
  do not think they were ugly
 ,(attached a pic if it goes  thru),but yes
 they were LOUD  : )
  
  The Ansa mufflers and tips are
  by far the best looking muffler,but have 
 horrible flow.
  
  I had
 Cherry Bomb Extreme mufflers with non  baffled
 tips.Essentially the
 are  a hollow  can
 with one angled metal plate .They flowed well,and had a
 deep  exhaust note.Less drone at low rpm
 than  the stock Ansa's as well.The
 problem  with the stock Pantera muffler
 location is you  have to use a short
 length  muffler,which  makes it difficult to
 have decent exhaust flow and
 sound 
 canceling ability.Also a more powerful engine  will be
 louder than a
 stock  engine with the  same
 mufflers.
  
  ">Other
 option, should I replace
  everything with
 180 degree system; how  >  much  > power is it
 really
 worth?
  >
  >>>What you get
  is
 style and a different sound.   You'll  never notice
 a  performance
 difference, and  you will
 pick up weight plus enormous complexity  and
 hamper maintenance access."
  
  On my car, i just
 installed
  180's with 4 inch Magnaflow
 mufflers,and it made  a significant increase in
 power over my already  decent flowing loud 
 exhaust.In fact the car  revs so
 quick i am
 seriously thinking of changing my  final drive gear ratio
 to
 3.73, when i change  the 5th gear in the
 ZF.
  
  With the 180 exhaust
 you have a lot more  options on mufflers that can
 reduce  noise  but still have good
 flow,because you are no longer as
 limited
 by  muffler body length.You lose your  trunk storage,but
 is it
 something you  really  need?If you
 drop the battery in the front you can
 gain
 some  more  storage up front.I started to convert a 
 trunk that was in
 really bad shape  to go 
 around my 180's,but it has been on the back burner
 since  i have been  able to get by without it
 so  far.
  
  By the
 way,the
  180's sound GLORIOUS!
  
  Richard
 




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