[DeTomaso] Longchamp Spyder at PIM

R.J willibillie at live.de
Sun Dec 7 16:12:35 EST 2014


First of all, DeTomaso himself never ordered any of these Spyders.
Armin Fischer, the former DT Importer for Germany had the idea and got 
the permission of DeTomaso for the conversions. The very first Spyder 
was build on an in an accident totalled coupe. I have the complete files 
in my database. All Spyders are later converted coupes. The major 
difference is, if it was a new car, that was converted, or as in this 
case an old and used body. Years ago, i talked to Ernesto Pavesi about 
these conversions. He was kind enough, to tell me, that he forgot the 
most of the details. I got a list of Vin numbers thrue the back door of 
original conversions of Panteras and Longchamps. The Pantera vin's count 
14 cars and the Longchamp vin's count 12 cars. I'm sure, they made more 
of both thrue the back door, because DeTomaso charged for his 
permissions quite an amount of money.

Roland Jaeckel
Am 07.12.2014 um 06:10 schrieb Mark Charlton:
>     Did Pavesi do 17 conversions in addition to the "factory" cars?
>     According to De Tomaso they only made 11 Spyders, but there do seem to
>     be a lot more than that out there.
>
>     Mark Charlton
>     [1]pantera01826 at rogers.com
>     [cid:E8D063D2-6F95-4AF6-A07B-ED576FB51609 at phub.net.cable.rogers.com]
>     On Dec 6, 2014, at 5:52 PM, Mike Drew via DeTomaso
>     <[2]detomaso at poca.com> wrote:
>
>       Julian,
>       I think this was the car I had arranged to buy from the then-owner
>       in 1994 for only $25k. I didn't have the money but was saving up for
>       it. Then Stuff Happened to it.
>       If it's the car I'm thinking of?  Now owned and restored by Dick
>       Drenske?
>       Loves me a Longchamp Spyder in non-GTS guise like this one. Send
>       those wheels to the aluminum recycling yard, fit the originals on,
>       and you're in Nirvana....
>       Mike
>       Sent from my iPhone
>       On Dec 6, 2014, at 15:36, Julian Kift <[3]julian_kift at hotmail.com>
>       wrote:
>
>        Looks well presented, except for the gawdy wheels and price tag, at
>        least the original wheels are with the car.
>        [1][4]http://www.ebay.com/itm/Other-Makes-Longchamp-Spyder-Spyder-1
>       976-det
>        omaso-longchamp-spyder-very-rare-1-of-17-built-/321605742962?forcer
>       rptr
>        =true&hash=item4ae1323172&item=321605742962&pt=US_Cars_Trucks
>        Julian
>       References
>        1.
>       [5]http://www.ebay.com/itm/Other-Makes-Longchamp-Spyder-Spyder-1976-
>       detomaso-longchamp-spyder-very-rare-1-of-17-built-/321605742962?forc
>       errptr=true&hash=item4ae1323172&item=321605742962&pt=US_Cars_Trucks
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> References
>
>     1. mailto:pantera01826 at rogers.com
>     2. mailto:detomaso at poca.com
>     3. mailto:julian_kift at hotmail.com
>     4. http://www.ebay.com/itm/Other-Makes-Longchamp-Spyder-Spyder-1976-det
>     5. http://www.ebay.com/itm/Other-Makes-Longchamp-Spyder-Spyder-1976-detomaso-longchamp-spyder-very-rare-1-of-17-built-/321605742962?forcerrptr=true&hash=item4ae1323172&item=321605742962&pt=US_Cars_Trucks
>     6. mailto:DeTomaso at poca.com
>     7. mailto:DeTomaso at poca.com
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   First of all, DeTomaso himself never ordered any of these Spyders.
   Armin Fischer, the former DT Importer for Germany had the idea and got
   the permission of DeTomaso for the conversions. The very first Spyder
   was build on an in an accident totalled coupe. I have the complete
   files in my database. All Spyders are later converted coupes. The major
   difference is, if it was a new car, that was converted, or as in this
   case an old and used body. Years ago, i talked to Ernesto Pavesi about
   these conversions. He was kind enough, to tell me, that he forgot the
   most of the details. I got a list of Vin numbers thrue the back door of
   original conversions of Panteras and Longchamps. The Pantera vin's
   count 14 cars and the Longchamp vin's count 12 cars. I'm sure, they
   made more of both thrue the back door, because DeTomaso charged for his
   permissions quite an amount of money.
   Roland Jaeckel

   Am 07.12.2014 um 06:10 schrieb Mark Charlton:

   Did Pavesi do 17 conversions in addition to the "factory" cars?
   According to De Tomaso they only made 11 Spyders, but there do seem to
   be a lot more than that out there.

   Mark Charlton
   [[1]1]pantera01826 at rogers.com
   [[2]cid:E8D063D2-6F95-4AF6-A07B-ED576FB51609 at phub.net.cable.rogers.com]
   On Dec 6, 2014, at 5:52 PM, Mike Drew via DeTomaso
   [3]<[2]detomaso at poca.com> wrote:

     Julian,
     I think this was the car I had arranged to buy from the then-owner
     in 1994 for only $25k. I didn't have the money but was saving up for
     it. Then Stuff Happened to it.
     If it's the car I'm thinking of?  Now owned and restored by Dick
     Drenske?
     Loves me a Longchamp Spyder in non-GTS guise like this one. Send
     those wheels to the aluminum recycling yard, fit the originals on,
     and you're in Nirvana....
     Mike
     Sent from my iPhone
     On Dec 6, 2014, at 15:36, Julian Kift [4]<[3]julian_kift at hotmail.com>
     wrote:

      Looks well presented, except for the gawdy wheels and price tag, at
      least the original wheels are with the car.
      [1][4][5]http://www.ebay.com/itm/Other-Makes-Longchamp-Spyder-Spyder-1
     976-det
      omaso-longchamp-spyder-very-rare-1-of-17-built-/321605742962?forcer
     rptr
      =true&hash=item4ae1323172&item=321605742962&pt=US_Cars_Trucks
      Julian
     References
      1.
     [5][6]http://www.ebay.com/itm/Other-Makes-Longchamp-Spyder-Spyder-1976-
     detomaso-longchamp-spyder-very-rare-1-of-17-built-/321605742962?forc
     errptr=true&hash=item4ae1323172&item=321605742962&pt=US_Cars_Trucks
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References

   1. [11]mailto:pantera01826 at rogers.com
   2. [12]mailto:detomaso at poca.com
   3. [13]mailto:julian_kift at hotmail.com
   4. [14]http://www.ebay.com/itm/Other-Makes-Longchamp-Spyder-Spyder-1976-det
   5. [15]http://www.ebay.com/itm/Other-Makes-Longchamp-Spyder-Spyder-1976-detom
aso-longchamp-spyder-very-rare-1-of-17-built-/321605742962?forcerrptr=true&hash=
item4ae1323172&item=321605742962&pt=US_Cars_Trucks
   6. [16]mailto:DeTomaso at poca.com
   7. [17]mailto:DeTomaso at poca.com


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References

   1. mailto:1]pantera01826 at rogers.com
   2. cid:E8D063D2-6F95-4AF6-A07B-ED576FB51609 at phub.net.cable.rogers.com
   3. mailto:[2]detomaso at poca.com
   4. mailto:[3]julian_kift at hotmail.com
   5. http://www.ebay.com/itm/Other-Makes-Longchamp-Spyder-Spyder-1
   6. http://www.ebay.com/itm/Other-Makes-Longchamp-Spyder-Spyder-1976
   7. mailto:6]DeTomaso at poca.com
   8. http://poca.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso_poca.com
   9. mailto:7]DeTomaso at poca.com
  10. http://poca.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso_poca.com
  11. mailto:pantera01826 at rogers.com
  12. mailto:detomaso at poca.com
  13. mailto:julian_kift at hotmail.com
  14. http://www.ebay.com/itm/Other-Makes-Longchamp-Spyder-Spyder-1976-det
  15. http://www.ebay.com/itm/Other-Makes-Longchamp-Spyder-Spyder-1976-detomaso-longchamp-spyder-very-rare-1-of-17-built-/321605742962?forcerrptr=true&hash=item4ae1323172&item=321605742962&pt=US_Cars_Trucks
  16. mailto:DeTomaso at poca.com
  17. mailto:DeTomaso at poca.com
  18. mailto:DeTomaso at poca.com
  19. http://poca.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso_poca.com


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