[DeTomaso] Factory Documents source (and GT4 9220 details)

Larry - Ohio Time Larry at ohiotimecorp.com
Tue Dec 2 15:29:30 EST 2014


When Watkins Glen race track closed in 1983(?) I was able to pick up a box
of entry forms for races. I remember Paul Newman on one with home address
and phone number. 

Now where did that box go to?


Larry (lots of crap) - Cleveland


-----Original Message-----
From: DeTomaso [mailto:detomaso-bounces at poca.com] On Behalf Of R.J
Sent: Tuesday, December 02, 2014 3:23 PM
To: detomaso at poca.com
Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Factory Documents source (and GT4 9220 details)

When Santiago moved from the factory, he left pallets full with 
documents in the old building. All was open, homeless people lived in 
there. Everybody could walk in and take away, what ever he wanted. I 
also bought some papers from that guy as well. He advertised the 
original sales bil and build sheet from Vignale to DeTomaso of my GT3 
car. So, now, i have the full history of my car from Vignale to 
DeTomaso, from DeTomaso to the german Importer, from the Importer to the 
first owner and then from the widow to the fellow, who sold it to me. 
 >This was a very good investment of 15 Euros.
I know of a Danish fellow, who could grab hundrets of original 
construction drawings of all kind of DT cars. Today, still a lot is 
flying around in the old buildings.

Roland Jaeckel


Am 02.12.2014 um 20:55 schrieb The DeTomaso Registry Guy:
>     Forum Listers,
>
>
>     I received an interesting eBay link from Denis C.
>
>
>     This is interesting for a number of reasons...
>
>
>     One is that this seller seems to frequently have De Tomaso factory
>     documents relating to our cars, that might would normally be
>
>     documents that would likely `stay' with the factory.  I wonder how
>     these documents got out.
>
>
>     In this case the document is the pre-release test drive.  This is not
>     the kind of document that I thought was available
>
>     from Santiago.  (If any owners have documents like this, they should
be
>     added to the registry!)
>
>
>     Another reason this is interesting, is that it documents that the car
>     in question (9220) is a "GT4" model.
>
>
>     As most of you probably know, when the factory started producing the
>     light-weight Group 4 race cars in Feb 1972,
>
>     they also planned to make a street-equivalent identified as the GT4.
>     So there are Group 4 cars and GT4 cars made in 1972.
>
>
>     The registry shows which cars (by VIN) were destined for each
>     category.
>
>
>     But the demand for the Group 4 track cars was high, thus before
>     completion, all the GT4 cars were re-assigned
>
>     to the Group 4 group, and finished accordingly.  We tend to call all
>     the cars thus made as Group 4.
>
>
>     But we can also identify the sub-group of these cars that were
destined
>     to be GT4 cars.
>
>
>     About a decade passes, and for some reason (marketing ???) De Tomaso
>     chose to use the GT4 model name
>
>     on a very small number of cars.
>
>
>     (It would be nice if anyone with more details, Santiago, Roland, and
>     others could chime in here.  Like exactly which cars were so built.)
>
>
>     When this specific car was produced (1981) it was identified as a GT4
>     by both the factory (in this new document),
>
>     and by Claude Dubois, the distributor (document in the registry).
>
>
>     Sadly, the current owner has not updated the registry entry with fresh
>     photos.  I wonder where this car is now?
>
>
>     Best Regards,
>
>
>     Chuck Melton
>
>
>
>
[1]http://www.ebay.com/itm/Tomaso-Pantera-1981-original-test-drive-Toma
>
so-/361105663934?pt=UK_CarParts_Vehicles_Manuals_Litterature_ET&hash=it
>     em54139327be
>
>
>     The De Tomaso Registry Guy
>
>     [2]http://www.detomasoregistry.org/Members/ProvaMoMemMain.asp
>
> References
>
>     1.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Tomaso-Pantera-1981-original-test-drive-Tomaso-/3611
05663934?pt=UK_CarParts_Vehicles_Manuals_Litterature_ET&hash=item54139327be
>     2. http://www.detomasoregistry.org/Members/ProvaMoMemMain.asp
>
>
>
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