[DeTomaso] Factory Documents source (and GT4 9220 details)
R.J
willibillie at live.de
Tue Dec 2 15:22:44 EST 2014
When Santiago moved from the factory, he left pallets full with
documents in the old building. All was open, homeless people lived in
there. Everybody could walk in and take away, what ever he wanted. I
also bought some papers from that guy as well. He advertised the
original sales bil and build sheet from Vignale to DeTomaso of my GT3
car. So, now, i have the full history of my car from Vignale to
DeTomaso, from DeTomaso to the german Importer, from the Importer to the
first owner and then from the widow to the fellow, who sold it to me.
>This was a very good investment of 15 Euros.
I know of a Danish fellow, who could grab hundrets of original
construction drawings of all kind of DT cars. Today, still a lot is
flying around in the old buildings.
Roland Jaeckel
Am 02.12.2014 um 20:55 schrieb The DeTomaso Registry Guy:
> Forum Listers,
>
>
> I received an interesting eBay link from Denis C.
>
>
> This is interesting for a number of reasons...
>
>
> One is that this seller seems to frequently have De Tomaso factory
> documents relating to our cars, that might would normally be
>
> documents that would likely `stay' with the factory. I wonder how
> these documents got out.
>
>
> In this case the document is the pre-release test drive. This is not
> the kind of document that I thought was available
>
> from Santiago. (If any owners have documents like this, they should be
> added to the registry!)
>
>
> Another reason this is interesting, is that it documents that the car
> in question (9220) is a "GT4" model.
>
>
> As most of you probably know, when the factory started producing the
> light-weight Group 4 race cars in Feb 1972,
>
> they also planned to make a street-equivalent identified as the GT4.
> So there are Group 4 cars and GT4 cars made in 1972.
>
>
> The registry shows which cars (by VIN) were destined for each
> category.
>
>
> But the demand for the Group 4 track cars was high, thus before
> completion, all the GT4 cars were re-assigned
>
> to the Group 4 group, and finished accordingly. We tend to call all
> the cars thus made as Group 4.
>
>
> But we can also identify the sub-group of these cars that were destined
> to be GT4 cars.
>
>
> About a decade passes, and for some reason (marketing ???) De Tomaso
> chose to use the GT4 model name
>
> on a very small number of cars.
>
>
> (It would be nice if anyone with more details, Santiago, Roland, and
> others could chime in here. Like exactly which cars were so built.)
>
>
> When this specific car was produced (1981) it was identified as a GT4
> by both the factory (in this new document),
>
> and by Claude Dubois, the distributor (document in the registry).
>
>
> Sadly, the current owner has not updated the registry entry with fresh
> photos. I wonder where this car is now?
>
>
> Best Regards,
>
>
> Chuck Melton
>
>
>
> [1]http://www.ebay.com/itm/Tomaso-Pantera-1981-original-test-drive-Toma
> so-/361105663934?pt=UK_CarParts_Vehicles_Manuals_Litterature_ET&hash=it
> em54139327be
>
>
> The De Tomaso Registry Guy
>
> [2]http://www.detomasoregistry.org/Members/ProvaMoMemMain.asp
>
> References
>
> 1. http://www.ebay.com/itm/Tomaso-Pantera-1981-original-test-drive-Tomaso-/361105663934?pt=UK_CarParts_Vehicles_Manuals_Litterature_ET&hash=item54139327be
> 2. http://www.detomasoregistry.org/Members/ProvaMoMemMain.asp
>
>
>
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When Santiago moved from the factory, he left pallets full with
documents in the old building. All was open, homeless people lived in
there. Everybody could walk in and take away, what ever he wanted. I
also bought some papers from that guy as well. He advertised the
original sales bil and build sheet from Vignale to DeTomaso of my GT3
car. So, now, i have the full history of my car from Vignale to
DeTomaso, from DeTomaso to the german Importer, from the Importer to
the first owner and then from the widow to the fellow, who sold it to
me. >This was a very good investment of 15 Euros.
I know of a Danish fellow, who could grab hundrets of original
construction drawings of all kind of DT cars. Today, still a lot is
flying around in the old buildings.
Roland Jaeckel
Am 02.12.2014 um 20:55 schrieb The DeTomaso Registry Guy:
Forum Listers,
I received an interesting eBay link from Denis C.
This is interesting for a number of reasons...
One is that this seller seems to frequently have De Tomaso factory
documents relating to our cars, that might would normally be
documents that would likely `stay' with the factory. I wonder how
these documents got out.
In this case the document is the pre-release test drive. This is not
the kind of document that I thought was available
from Santiago. (If any owners have documents like this, they should be
added to the registry!)
Another reason this is interesting, is that it documents that the car
in question (9220) is a "GT4" model.
As most of you probably know, when the factory started producing the
light-weight Group 4 race cars in Feb 1972,
they also planned to make a street-equivalent identified as the GT4.
So there are Group 4 cars and GT4 cars made in 1972.
The registry shows which cars (by VIN) were destined for each
category.
But the demand for the Group 4 track cars was high, thus before
completion, all the GT4 cars were re-assigned
to the Group 4 group, and finished accordingly. We tend to call all
the cars thus made as Group 4.
But we can also identify the sub-group of these cars that were destined
to be GT4 cars.
About a decade passes, and for some reason (marketing ???) De Tomaso
chose to use the GT4 model name
on a very small number of cars.
(It would be nice if anyone with more details, Santiago, Roland, and
others could chime in here. Like exactly which cars were so built.)
When this specific car was produced (1981) it was identified as a GT4
by both the factory (in this new document),
and by Claude Dubois, the distributor (document in the registry).
Sadly, the current owner has not updated the registry entry with fresh
photos. I wonder where this car is now?
Best Regards,
Chuck Melton
[1][1]http://www.ebay.com/itm/Tomaso-Pantera-1981-original-test-drive-Toma
so-/361105663934?pt=UK_CarParts_Vehicles_Manuals_Litterature_ET&hash=it
em54139327be
The De Tomaso Registry Guy
[2][2]http://www.detomasoregistry.org/Members/ProvaMoMemMain.asp
References
1. [3]http://www.ebay.com/itm/Tomaso-Pantera-1981-original-test-drive-Tomaso-
/361105663934?pt=UK_CarParts_Vehicles_Manuals_Litterature_ET&hash=item54139327be
2. [4]http://www.detomasoregistry.org/Members/ProvaMoMemMain.asp
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References
1. http://www.ebay.com/itm/Tomaso-Pantera-1981-original-test-drive-Toma
2. http://www.detomasoregistry.org/Members/ProvaMoMemMain.asp
3. http://www.ebay.com/itm/Tomaso-Pantera-1981-original-test-drive-Tomaso-/361105663934?pt=UK_CarParts_Vehicles_Manuals_Litterature_ET&hash=item54139327be
4. http://www.detomasoregistry.org/Members/ProvaMoMemMain.asp
5. mailto:DeTomaso at poca.com
6. http://poca.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso_poca.com
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