[DeTomaso] NPC good idea for mileage.
michael at michaelshortt.com
michael at michaelshortt.com
Sat Aug 23 22:26:46 EDT 2014
I would have to concur with your evaluation. Even BMW with thr newly
introduced i3 can't break 40 mpg.
http://www.greencarreports.com/news/1092237_2014-bmw-i3-rex-window-sticker-revealed-39-mpg-on-gasoline-breaking
Michael Shortt
On Aug 23, 2014 10:20 PM, "Jeff Cobb" <jeffcobb1 at me.com> wrote:
> Thank you for sending.
>
> What you showed us is a fine system for air/fuel vapor induction on its
> crudest yet functional primal level.
>
> Various systems of this type came out and were on working automotive
> and motorcycle functions in 1883 +-.
> American George Brayton used a device like this in about 1880 to
> function as a carb and he used a screen
> to separate the wave reversal of combustion flame.
> Karl Benz first Patent cycle used a vapor device like this in/about
> 1890.
> The 1894 Hildebrand & Wolfmueller used this system and I photoed it at
> the 2013 Pebble.
> Of course this system is crude and in the 120 design years since has
> become more usable for our daily drives.
> What this u-tube shows and we all know is that a well designed steady
> state gasoline engine is many times more
> economical that an engine with varying rpm.
> Why can't GM, Ford, Chrysler, etc do it too?
> They cannot use this system because it does not provide enough
> horsepower and drivability.
> This is why future cars will have steady state gasoline engine
> providing power for varying rpm electric motors,
> trains have used this hybrid concept starting in 1903.
> Gasoline consumed will equal specific horsepower and torque output and
> only will a very lightly loaded small h/p output gas engine ever
> achieve 50 +- mpg in daily use. Any higher number would be B/S, not
> properly drivable and unable to carry load.
> Many English cars after WWII ran on coal dust and or wood fume vapors
> from their pulled trailers.
> Many fuel/air types are possible but most people desire functional use
> over economy.
> Thanks,
> Jeff Cobb
> On Aug 23, 2014, at 6:16 PM, Jeff Detrich <[1]jjdetrich at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> What do you think of this!
> Jeff
> 6559
>
>
> [1][2]https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?v=10201677077718343&fref=nf
>
> Maybe people make fun of Rednecks and their ideas but here is one
> Genius who will make you stop and think for a minute. He watched
> his
> neighbor do this with a lawn mower and used the same technique on
> his
> V-6 Dodge Dakota pick-up truck. Why can't GM, Ford, Chrysler, etc
> do
> it too?
> References
> 1.
> [3]https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?v=10201677077718343&fref=nf
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I would have to concur with your evaluation. Even BMW with thr newly
introduced i3 can't break 40 mpg.
[1]http://www.greencarreports.com/news/1092237_2014-bmw-i3-rex-window-s
ticker-revealed-39-mpg-on-gasoline-breaking
Michael Shortt
On Aug 23, 2014 10:20 PM, "Jeff Cobb" <[2]jeffcobb1 at me.com> wrote:
A A Thank you for sending.
A A What you showed us is a fine system for air/fuel vapor
induction on its
A A crudest yet functional primal level.
A A Various systems of this type came out and were on working
automotive
A A and motorcycle functions in 1883 +-.
A A American George Brayton used a device like this in about 1880
to
A A function as a carb and he used a screen
A A to separate the wave reversal of combustion flame.
A A Karl Benz first Patent cycle used a vapor device like this
in/about
A A 1890.
A A The 1894 Hildebrand & Wolfmueller used this system and I
photoed it at
A A the 2013 Pebble.
A A Of course this system is crude and in the 120 design years
since has
A A become more usable for our daily drives.
A A What this u-tube shows and we all know is that a well designed
steady
A A state gasoline engine is many times more
A A economical that an engine with varying rpm.
A A Why can't GM, Ford, Chrysler, etc do it too?
A A They cannot use this system because it does not provide enough
A A horsepower and drivability.
A A This is why future cars will have steady state gasoline engine
A A providing power for varying rpm electric motors,
A A trains have used this hybrid concept starting in 1903.
A A Gasoline consumed will equal specific horsepower and torque
output and
A A only will a very lightly loaded small h/p output gas engine
ever
A A achieve 50 +- mpg in daily use. Any higher number would be B/S,
not
A A properly drivable and unable to carry load.
A A Many English cars after WWII ran on coal dust and or wood fume
vapors
A A from their pulled trailers.
A A Many fuel/air types are possible but most people desire
functional use
A A over economy.
A A Thanks,
A A Jeff Cobb
A A On Aug 23, 2014, at 6:16 PM, Jeff Detrich
<[1][3]jjdetrich at gmail.com>
A A wrote:
A A A A What do you think of this!
A A A A Jeff
A A A A 6559
A A
A [1][2][4]https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?v=10201677077718343&fr
ef=nf
A A A A Maybe people make fun of Rednecks and their ideas but
here is one
A A A A Genius who will make you stop and think for a minute. He
watched
A A A his
A A A A neighbor do this with a lawn mower and used the same
technique on
A A A his
A A A A V-6 Dodge Dakota pick-up truck.A Why can't GM, Ford,
Chrysler, etc
A A A do
A A A A it too?
A A A References
A A A A 1.
A A
A [3][5]https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?v=10201677077718343&fref=
nf
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A A 2.
[9]https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?v=10201677077718343&fref=nf
A A 3.
[10]https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?v=10201677077718343&fref=nf
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3. mailto:jjdetrich at gmail.com
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6. mailto:DeTomaso at poca.com
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