[DeTomaso] Flex-a-lite question
Sean Korb
spkorb at gmail.com
Thu Aug 21 10:02:09 EDT 2014
And even more surprised that we're on the verge of installing truck nuts on
the back of our rides.
sean
On Thu, Aug 21, 2014 at 12:18 AM, Asa Jay Laughton <asajay at asajay.com>
wrote:
> Did anyone else realize that Jeff Detrich was responding to a post from
> LAST FEBRUARY?
>
> I imagine Larry is wondering why we are dredging up a conversation that
> he probably solved six months ago.
>
> Asa Jay
>
> Asa Jay Laughton, MSgt, USAFR, Retired
> & Shelley Marie
> Spokane, WA
> ******************************
> http://www.racingagainstautism.com
> http://www.teampanteraracing.com
> http://facebook.com/racingagainstautism
>
>
> On 8/20/2014 5:23 PM, Boyd Casey wrote:
> > Larry,
> > From my limited experience most men tend to give their machines female
> > genders when the assign them Anthropomorphic attributes ie. Fighter
> > planes, boats , hot rods. Off course their are exceptions (like the
> > "General Lee" from Dukes of Hazard, but then again I always thought
> > those Hollywood hillbillies were gay anyway! So only you can answer
> the
> > question of whether or not your Pantera has "Balls" or not! Now I have
> > known some women who had balls ( although many of them I suspect were
> > acquired by castrating their Pussy whipped husbands while others had a
> > higher testosterone level then many men . These were the same women
> who
> > used to compete for East Berlin in the Olympics and were subject to
> > gender identification testing when that practice was in
> > Vogue.Personally I preferred to think of my toys in the Feminine
> > gender. A high powered sexy machine that tended to run hot! For those
> > who prefer an assignment of male gender attributes many auto parts
> > stores and truck stops now sell "Truck Nuts" They look like a scrotum
> > with two testes and can be hung from a trailer hitch. A I don't think
> > anyone has come up with an artificial vulva that can be affixed to the
> > exhaust although now that I have mentioned it you can probably expect
> > to see some thing similar A undoubtedly made in China on sale A at
> your
> > local auto parts store or on E-bay soon!A
> > Boyd
> >
> > On Wed, Aug 20, 2014 at 3:37 PM, Larry - Ohio Time
> > <[1]Larry at ohiotimecorp.com> wrote:
> >
> > << You cannot fix what you cannot measure.">>
> >
> > So Jeff your saying there's hope for me?
> > Larry (12" but don't use it as a rule) - Cleveland
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: DeTomaso [mailto:[2]detomaso-bounces at poca.com] On Behalf Of
> Jeff
> > Detrich
> > Sent: Wednesday, August 20, 2014 2:51 PM
> > To: Boyd Casey
> > Cc: [3]detomaso at poca.com; Larry Finch
> > Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Flex-a-lite question
> >
> > To paraphrase an old Hewlett-Packard mantra,A "You cannot fix what
> you
> > cannot measure."
> > Jeff
> > 6559
> > On Wed, Aug 20, 2014 at 12:06 PM, Boyd Casey <[4]boyd411 at gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> > >A Mike Short makes a good pointA when he mentions that Larry is
> > assigning
> > anthropomorphic
> > > attributes to parts of his Pantera.(A Anthropomorphism is the
> > attribution
> >
> > > of *human characteristics to machines or animals). **If Larry (or
> > anyone
> >
> > > else)A thinks that their automobiles fans ( or any other component
> )
> > is
> > not
> > > operating up to specifications they can easily measure the
> > effectiveness
> > of
> > > the system in question.A You can easily obtain a variety of devices
> > that
> > > are capable of measuring the actual airflow, rpm of the fan blades
> > etc. As
> > > an example for measuring CFM ( which can be useful for measuring air
> > flow
> >
> > > for cooling or forA air intake for the engine** , **Carburetion,
> > **Fu**el
> >
> > > injection etc.)A This linkA shows a small sample of some of the
> > devices
> > >
> > .[5]
> http://www.google.com/search?client=safari&rls=en&q=gmail&ie=UTF-8&
> > oe=UTF-8
> > #q=HVAC+cfm+meter&rls=en
> > >
> >
> > <[6]
> http://www.google.com/search?client=safari&rls=en&q=gmail&ie=UTF
> > -8&oe=UTF-8
> > #q=HVAC+cfm+meter&rls=en>
> >
> > >A This removes the question of wondering if your car or fans
> > are"tired"
> > and
> >
> > > replaces the *Anthropomorphic attributes with technically
> > appropriate and
> >
> > > scientifically accurate measurement devices. Although many of us
> like
> > to
> > > assign a name and or a gender to our favorite "Toys" which I believe
> > can
> > > actually enhance the ownership experienceA when it comes to
> > maintaining
> > > peak operating performance it is necessary to rely on technology and
> > not
> > > asking our Cat " If it's a little tired"
> > >
> > > Boyd
> > >
> > >
> > > On Wed, Aug 20, 2014 at 11:03 AM, Jeff Detrich
> > <[7]jjdetrich at gmail.com>
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > >>A A Check your fan grounds.
> > >>A A Jeff
> > >>A A 6559
> > >>
> > >>A A On Sun, Feb 23, 2014 at 1:04 PM, Larry Finch
> > <[1][8]fresnofinches at aol.com
> > >> >
> > >>A A wrote:
> > >>
> > >>A A A AA A All,
> > >>A A A AA A I've come to the conclusion the Hall Pantera Meriah
> > fans are
> > >>A A A getting
> > >>A A A AA A tired and are not up to the task of slow traffic
> > cooling.
> > >>A A A AA A I say this because in Summer/Winter I now always see
> a
> > large
> > >>A A A jump in
> > >>A A A AA A temp when I get into city traffic versus highway
> > travel. 20-30
> > >>A A A degrees
> > >>A A A AA A jump. Wasn't always that way.
> > >>A A A AA A I would rather not remount the three-pass Quella/Ron
> > Francis
> > >>A A A radiator
> > >>A A A AA A for sucker fans, so I'm looking at pushers.
> > >>A A A AA A Felx-a-lite offers model 440 as a pusher. 2500 cfm,
> > S-blades,
> > >>A A A etc.
> > >>A A A AA A But I noted the online-available PDF installation
> > sheet groups
> > >>A A A the 440
> > >>A A A AA A pusher and the 420 puller in the same section.
> > >>A A A AA A It instructs the 420 puller to be wired red/red and
> > >>A A A black/black, fan to
> > >>A A A AA A power source. And to reverse the wiring to red/black
> > and
> > >>A A A black/red for
> > >>A A A AA A the 440 pusher model. This tells me the fan blades
> are
> > expected
> > >>A A A to
> > >>A A A AA A perform whether rotating CW or CCW. But I've always
> > heard
> > >>A A A blades are
> > >>A A A AA A optimal for one direction only, and show reduced
> > efficiency
> > >>A A A when
> > >>A A A AA A rotating opposite to the intended function.
> > >>A A A AA A I will try to talk with a Flex-a-lite tech about this
> > on
> > >>A A A Monday, but in
> > >>A A A AA A the meantime I'm asking for any of your ideas,
> > thoughts and
> > >>A A A AA A suggestions.
> > >>A A A AA A Thanks,
> > >>A A A AA A Larry
> > >>A A A AA A ......and no, I don't know why my emails (at least in
> > the
> > >>A A A archives) are
> > >>A A A AA A now getting duplicated by the List software.
> > >>
> > >>A A A _______________________________________________
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> > >>
> > >> References
> > >>
> > >>A A 1. mailto:[11]fresnofinches at aol.com
> > >>
> > >>A A 2. mailto:[12]DeTomaso at poca.com
> > >>A A 3. [13]http://poca.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso_poca.com
> > >>
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> > >>
> > >
> >
> > References
> >
> > 1. mailto:Larry at ohiotimecorp.com
> > 2. mailto:detomaso-bounces at poca.com
> > 3. mailto:detomaso at poca.com
> > 4. mailto:boyd411 at gmail.com
> > 5.
> http://www.google.com/search?client=safari&rls=en&q=gmail&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8#q=HVC+cfm+meteer&rls=en
> > 6.
> http://www.google.com/search?client=safari&rls=en&q=gmail&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8#q=HVC+cfm+meteer&rls=en
> > 7. mailto:jjdetrich at gmail.com
> > 8. mailto:fresnofinches at aol.com
> > 9. mailto:DeTomaso at poca.com
> > 10. http://poca.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso_poca.com
> > 11. mailto:fresnofinches at aol.com
> > 12. mailto:DeTomaso at poca.com
> > 13. http://poca.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso_poca.com
> > 14. mailto:DeTomaso at poca.com
> > 15. http://poca.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso_poca.com
> >
> >
> >
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And even more surprised that we're on the verge of installing truck
nuts on the back of our rides.
sean
On Thu, Aug 21, 2014 at 12:18 AM, Asa Jay Laughton
<[1]asajay at asajay.com> wrote:
Did anyone else realize that Jeff Detrich was responding to a post
from
LAST FEBRUARY?
I imagine Larry is wondering why we are dredging up a conversation
that
he probably solved six months ago.
AsaA Jay
Asa Jay Laughton, MSgt, USAFR, Retired
& Shelley Marie
Spokane, WA
******************************
[2]http://www.racingagainstautism.com
[3]http://www.teampanteraracing.com
[4]http://facebook.com/racingagainstautism
On 8/20/2014 5:23 PM, Boyd Casey wrote:
>A A Larry,
>A A From my limited experience most men tend to give their machines
female
>A A genders when the assign them Anthropomorphic attributes ie.
Fighter
>A A planes, boats , hot rods. Off course their are exceptions (like
the
>A A "General Lee" from Dukes of Hazard, but then again I always
thought
>A A those Hollywood hillbillies were gay anyway! So only you can
answer the
>A A question of whether or not your Pantera has "Balls" or not! Now
I have
>A A known some women who had balls ( although many of them I suspect
were
>A A acquired by castrating their Pussy whipped husbands while others
had a
>A A higher testosterone level then many men . These were the same
women who
>A A used to compete for East Berlin in the Olympics and were subject
to
>A A gender identification testing when that practice was in
>A A Vogue.Personally I preferred to think of my toys in the Feminine
>A A gender. A high powered sexy machine that tended to run hot! For
those
>A A who prefer an assignment of male gender attributes many auto
parts
>A A stores and truck stops now sell "Truck Nuts" They look like a
scrotum
>A A with two testes and can be hung from a trailer hitch. A I don't
think
>A A anyone has come up with an artificial vulva that can be affixed
to the
>A A exhaust although now that I have mentioned it you can probably
expect
>A A to see some thing similar A undoubtedly made in China on sale A
at your
>A A local auto parts store or on E-bay soon!A
>A A Boyd
>
>A A On Wed, Aug 20, 2014 at 3:37 PM, Larry - Ohio Time
>A A <[1][5]Larry at ohiotimecorp.com> wrote:
>
>A A << You cannot fix what you cannot measure.">>
>
>A A A So Jeff your saying there's hope for me?
>A A A Larry (12" but don't use it as a rule) - Cleveland
>
>A A -----Original Message-----
>A A From: DeTomaso [mailto:[2][6]detomaso-bounces at poca.com] On
Behalf Of Jeff
>A A Detrich
>A A Sent: Wednesday, August 20, 2014 2:51 PM
>A A To: Boyd Casey
>A A Cc: [3][7]detomaso at poca.com; Larry Finch
>A A Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Flex-a-lite question
>
>A A To paraphrase an old Hewlett-Packard mantra,AA "You cannot fix
what you
>A A cannot measure."
>A A Jeff
>A A 6559
>A A On Wed, Aug 20, 2014 at 12:06 PM, Boyd Casey
<[4][8]boyd411 at gmail.com>
>A A wrote:
>A A >AA Mike Short makes a good pointAA when he mentions that
Larry is
>A A assigning
>A A anthropomorphic
>A A > attributes to parts of his Pantera.(AA Anthropomorphism is
the
>A A attribution
>
>A A A > of *human characteristics to machines or animals). **If
Larry (or
>A A A anyone
>
>A A > else)AA thinks that their automobiles fans ( or any other
component )
>A A is
>A A not
>A A > operating up to specifications they can easily measure the
>A A effectiveness
>A A of
>A A > the system in question.AA You can easily obtain a variety of
devices
>A A that
>A A > are capable of measuring the actual airflow, rpm of the fan
blades
>A A etc. As
>A A > an example for measuring CFM ( which can be useful for
measuring air
>A A flow
>
>A A A > for cooling or forAA air intake for the engine** ,
**Carburetion,
>A A A **Fu**el
>
>A A > injection etc.)AA This linkAA shows a small sample of some
of the
>A A devices
>A A >
>A A
.[5][9]http://www.google.com/search?client=safari&rls=en&q=gmail&ie=UTF
-8&
>A A oe=UTF-8
>A A #q=HVAC+cfm+meter&rls=en
>A A >
>
>A A A
<[6][10]http://www.google.com/search?client=safari&rls=en&q=gmail&ie=UT
F
>A A A -8&oe=UTF-8
>A A A #q=HVAC+cfm+meter&rls=en>
>
>A A >AA This removes the question of wondering if your car or fans
>A A are"tired"
>A A and
>
>A A A > replaces the *Anthropomorphic attributes with technically
>A A A appropriate and
>
>A A > scientifically accurate measurement devices. Although many of
us like
>A A to
>A A > assign a name and or a gender to our favorite "Toys" which I
believe
>A A can
>A A > actually enhance the ownership experienceAA when it comes to
>A A maintaining
>A A > peak operating performance it is necessary to rely on
technology and
>A A not
>A A > asking our Cat " If it's a little tired"
>A A >
>A A > Boyd
>A A >
>A A >
>A A > On Wed, Aug 20, 2014 at 11:03 AM, Jeff Detrich
>A A <[7][11]jjdetrich at gmail.com>
>A A > wrote:
>A A >
>A A >>AA AA Check your fan grounds.
>A A >>AA AA Jeff
>A A >>AA AA 6559
>A A >>
>A A >>AA AA On Sun, Feb 23, 2014 at 1:04 PM, Larry Finch
>A A <[1][8][12]fresnofinches at aol.com
>A A >> >
>A A >>AA AA wrote:
>A A >>
>A A >>AA AA AA AAA A All,
>A A >>AA AA AA AAA A I've come to the conclusion the Hall
Pantera Meriah
>A A fans are
>A A >>AA AA AA getting
>A A >>AA AA AA AAA A tired and are not up to the task of slow
traffic
>A A cooling.
>A A >>AA AA AA AAA A I say this because in Summer/Winter I now
always see a
>A A large
>A A >>AA AA AA jump in
>A A >>AA AA AA AAA A temp when I get into city traffic versus
highway
>A A travel. 20-30
>A A >>AA AA AA degrees
>A A >>AA AA AA AAA A jump. Wasn't always that way.
>A A >>AA AA AA AAA A I would rather not remount the three-pass
Quella/Ron
>A A Francis
>A A >>AA AA AA radiator
>A A >>AA AA AA AAA A for sucker fans, so I'm looking at pushers.
>A A >>AA AA AA AAA A Felx-a-lite offers model 440 as a pusher.
2500 cfm,
>A A S-blades,
>A A >>AA AA AA etc.
>A A >>AA AA AA AAA A But I noted the online-available PDF
installation
>A A sheet groups
>A A >>AA AA AA the 440
>A A >>AA AA AA AAA A pusher and the 420 puller in the same
section.
>A A >>AA AA AA AAA A It instructs the 420 puller to be wired
red/red and
>A A >>AA AA AA black/black, fan to
>A A >>AA AA AA AAA A power source. And to reverse the wiring to
red/black
>A A and
>A A >>AA AA AA black/red for
>A A >>AA AA AA AAA A the 440 pusher model. This tells me the fan
blades are
>A A expected
>A A >>AA AA AA to
>A A >>AA AA AA AAA A perform whether rotating CW or CCW. But
I've always
>A A heard
>A A >>AA AA AA blades are
>A A >>AA AA AA AAA A optimal for one direction only, and show
reduced
>A A efficiency
>A A >>AA AA AA when
>A A >>AA AA AA AAA A rotating opposite to the intended function.
>A A >>AA AA AA AAA A I will try to talk with a Flex-a-lite tech
about this
>A A on
>A A >>AA AA AA Monday, but in
>A A >>AA AA AA AAA A the meantime I'm asking for any of your
ideas,
>A A thoughts and
>A A >>AA AA AA AAA A suggestions.
>A A >>AA AA AA AAA A Thanks,
>A A >>AA AA AA AAA A Larry
>A A >>AA AA AA AAA A ......and no, I don't know why my emails
(at least in
>A A the
>A A >>AA AA AA archives) are
>A A >>AA AA AA AAA A now getting duplicated by the List
software.
>A A >>
>A A >>AA AA AA _______________________________________________
>A A >>AA AA AA Detomaso Forum Managed by POCA
>A A >>AA AA AA DeTomaso mailing list
>A A >>AA AA AA [2][9][13]DeTomaso at poca.com
>A A >>AA AA AA
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>A A >>
>A A >> References
>A A >>
>A A >>AA AA 1. mailto:[11][15]fresnofinches at aol.com
>A A >>
>A A >>AA AA 2. mailto:[12][16]DeTomaso at poca.com
>A A >>AA AA 3.
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>A A >> Detomaso Forum Managed by POCA
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>A A >>
>A A >>
>A A >
>
> References
>
>A A 1. mailto:[20]Larry at ohiotimecorp.com
>A A 2. mailto:[21]detomaso-bounces at poca.com
>A A 3. mailto:[22]detomaso at poca.com
>A A 4. mailto:[23]boyd411 at gmail.com
>A A 5.
[24]http://www.google.com/search?client=safari&rls=en&q=gmail&ie=UTF-8&
oe=UTF-8#q=HVC+cfm+meteer&rls=en
>A A 6.
[25]http://www.google.com/search?client=safari&rls=en&q=gmail&ie=UTF-8&
oe=UTF-8#q=HVC+cfm+meteer&rls=en
>A A 7. mailto:[26]jjdetrich at gmail.com
>A A 8. mailto:[27]fresnofinches at aol.com
>A A 9. mailto:[28]DeTomaso at poca.com
>A A 10. [29]http://poca.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso_poca.com
>A A 11. mailto:[30]fresnofinches at aol.com
>A A 12. mailto:[31]DeTomaso at poca.com
>A A 13. [32]http://poca.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso_poca.com
>A A 14. mailto:[33]DeTomaso at poca.com
>A A 15. [34]http://poca.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso_poca.com
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#1382
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"Computers are useless.A They can only give you answers." -P. Picasso
References
1. mailto:asajay at asajay.com
2. http://www.racingagainstautism.com/
3. http://www.teampanteraracing.com/
4. http://facebook.com/racingagainstautism
5. mailto:Larry at ohiotimecorp.com
6. mailto:detomaso-bounces at poca.com
7. mailto:detomaso at poca.com
8. mailto:boyd411 at gmail.com
9. http://www.google.com/search?client=safari&rls=en&q=gmail&ie=UTF-8&
10. http://www.google.com/search?client=safari&rls=en&q=gmail&ie=UTF
11. mailto:jjdetrich at gmail.com
12. mailto:fresnofinches at aol.com
13. mailto:DeTomaso at poca.com
14. http://poca.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso_poca.com
15. mailto:fresnofinches at aol.com
16. mailto:DeTomaso at poca.com
17. http://poca.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso_poca.com
18. mailto:DeTomaso at poca.com
19. http://poca.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso_poca.com
20. mailto:Larry at ohiotimecorp.com
21. mailto:detomaso-bounces at poca.com
22. mailto:detomaso at poca.com
23. mailto:boyd411 at gmail.com
24. http://www.google.com/search?client=safari&rls=en&q=gmail&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8#q=HVC+cfm+meteer&rls=en
25. http://www.google.com/search?client=safari&rls=en&q=gmail&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8#q=HVC+cfm+meteer&rls=en
26. mailto:jjdetrich at gmail.com
27. mailto:fresnofinches at aol.com
28. mailto:DeTomaso at poca.com
29. http://poca.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso_poca.com
30. mailto:fresnofinches at aol.com
31. mailto:DeTomaso at poca.com
32. http://poca.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso_poca.com
33. mailto:DeTomaso at poca.com
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35. mailto:DeTomaso at poca.com
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38. mailto:DeTomaso at poca.com
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