[DeTomaso] Flex-a-lite question
Boyd Casey
boyd411 at gmail.com
Wed Aug 20 20:23:49 EDT 2014
Larry,
>From my limited experience most men tend to give their machines female
genders when the assign them Anthropomorphic attributes ie. Fighter planes,
boats , hot rods. Off course their are exceptions (like the "General Lee"
from Dukes of Hazard, but then again I always thought those Hollywood
hillbillies were gay anyway! So only you can answer the question of whether
or not your Pantera has "Balls" or not! Now I have known some women who had
balls ( although many of them I suspect were acquired by castrating their
Pussy whipped husbands while others had a higher testosterone level then
many men . These were the same women who used to compete for East Berlin in
the Olympics and were subject to gender identification testing when that
practice was in Vogue.Personally I preferred to think of my toys in the
Feminine gender. A high powered sexy machine that tended to run hot! For
those who prefer an assignment of male gender attributes many auto parts
stores and truck stops now sell "Truck Nuts" They look like a scrotum with
two testes and can be hung from a trailer hitch. I don't think anyone has
come up with an artificial vulva that can be affixed to the exhaust
although now that I have mentioned it you can probably expect to see some
thing similar undoubtedly made in China on sale at your local auto parts
store or on E-bay soon!
Boyd
On Wed, Aug 20, 2014 at 3:37 PM, Larry - Ohio Time <Larry at ohiotimecorp.com>
wrote:
> << You cannot fix what you cannot measure.">>
>
> So Jeff your saying there's hope for me?
>
>
> Larry (12" but don't use it as a rule) - Cleveland
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: DeTomaso [mailto:detomaso-bounces at poca.com] On Behalf Of Jeff
> Detrich
> Sent: Wednesday, August 20, 2014 2:51 PM
> To: Boyd Casey
> Cc: detomaso at poca.com; Larry Finch
> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Flex-a-lite question
>
> To paraphrase an old Hewlett-Packard mantra, "You cannot fix what you
> cannot measure."
>
> Jeff
> 6559
>
>
> On Wed, Aug 20, 2014 at 12:06 PM, Boyd Casey <boyd411 at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > Mike Short makes a good point when he mentions that Larry is assigning
> anthropomorphic
> > attributes to parts of his Pantera.( Anthropomorphism is the attribution
> > of *human characteristics to machines or animals). **If Larry (or anyone
> > else) thinks that their automobiles fans ( or any other component ) is
> not
> > operating up to specifications they can easily measure the effectiveness
> of
> > the system in question. You can easily obtain a variety of devices that
> > are capable of measuring the actual airflow, rpm of the fan blades etc.
> As
> > an example for measuring CFM ( which can be useful for measuring air flow
> > for cooling or for air intake for the engine** , **Carburetion, **Fu**el
> > injection etc.) This link shows a small sample of some of the devices
> >
> .
> http://www.google.com/search?client=safari&rls=en&q=gmail&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8
> #q=HVAC+cfm+meter&rls=en
> >
> <
> http://www.google.com/search?client=safari&rls=en&q=gmail&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8
> #q=HVAC+cfm+meter&rls=en>
> > This removes the question of wondering if your car or fans are"tired"
> and
> > replaces the *Anthropomorphic attributes with technically appropriate and
> > scientifically accurate measurement devices. Although many of us like to
> > assign a name and or a gender to our favorite "Toys" which I believe can
> > actually enhance the ownership experience when it comes to maintaining
> > peak operating performance it is necessary to rely on technology and not
> > asking our Cat " If it's a little tired"
> >
> > Boyd
> >
> >
> > On Wed, Aug 20, 2014 at 11:03 AM, Jeff Detrich <jjdetrich at gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> >
> >> Check your fan grounds.
> >> Jeff
> >> 6559
> >>
> >> On Sun, Feb 23, 2014 at 1:04 PM, Larry Finch <[1]
> fresnofinches at aol.com
> >> >
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >> A A All,
> >> A A I've come to the conclusion the Hall Pantera Meriah fans are
> >> getting
> >> A A tired and are not up to the task of slow traffic cooling.
> >> A A I say this because in Summer/Winter I now always see a large
> >> jump in
> >> A A temp when I get into city traffic versus highway travel. 20-30
> >> degrees
> >> A A jump. Wasn't always that way.
> >> A A I would rather not remount the three-pass Quella/Ron Francis
> >> radiator
> >> A A for sucker fans, so I'm looking at pushers.
> >> A A Felx-a-lite offers model 440 as a pusher. 2500 cfm, S-blades,
> >> etc.
> >> A A But I noted the online-available PDF installation sheet groups
> >> the 440
> >> A A pusher and the 420 puller in the same section.
> >> A A It instructs the 420 puller to be wired red/red and
> >> black/black, fan to
> >> A A power source. And to reverse the wiring to red/black and
> >> black/red for
> >> A A the 440 pusher model. This tells me the fan blades are
> expected
> >> to
> >> A A perform whether rotating CW or CCW. But I've always heard
> >> blades are
> >> A A optimal for one direction only, and show reduced efficiency
> >> when
> >> A A rotating opposite to the intended function.
> >> A A I will try to talk with a Flex-a-lite tech about this on
> >> Monday, but in
> >> A A the meantime I'm asking for any of your ideas, thoughts and
> >> A A suggestions.
> >> A A Thanks,
> >> A A Larry
> >> A A ......and no, I don't know why my emails (at least in the
> >> archives) are
> >> A A now getting duplicated by the List software.
> >>
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> >> References
> >>
> >> 1. mailto:fresnofinches at aol.com
> >>
> >> 2. mailto:DeTomaso at poca.com
> >> 3. http://poca.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso_poca.com
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>
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Larry,
From my limited experience most men tend to give their machines female
genders when the assign them Anthropomorphic attributes ie. Fighter
planes, boats , hot rods. Off course their are exceptions (like the
"General Lee" from Dukes of Hazard, but then again I always thought
those Hollywood hillbillies were gay anyway! So only you can answer the
question of whether or not your Pantera has "Balls" or not! Now I have
known some women who had balls ( although many of them I suspect were
acquired by castrating their Pussy whipped husbands while others had a
higher testosterone level then many men . These were the same women who
used to compete for East Berlin in the Olympics and were subject to
gender identification testing when that practice was in
Vogue.Personally I preferred to think of my toys in the Feminine
gender. A high powered sexy machine that tended to run hot! For those
who prefer an assignment of male gender attributes many auto parts
stores and truck stops now sell "Truck Nuts" They look like a scrotum
with two testes and can be hung from a trailer hitch. A I don't think
anyone has come up with an artificial vulva that can be affixed to the
exhaust although now that I have mentioned it you can probably expect
to see some thing similar A undoubtedly made in China on sale A at your
local auto parts store or on E-bay soon!A
Boyd
On Wed, Aug 20, 2014 at 3:37 PM, Larry - Ohio Time
<[1]Larry at ohiotimecorp.com> wrote:
<< You cannot fix what you cannot measure.">>
So Jeff your saying there's hope for me?
Larry (12" but don't use it as a rule) - Cleveland
-----Original Message-----
From: DeTomaso [mailto:[2]detomaso-bounces at poca.com] On Behalf Of Jeff
Detrich
Sent: Wednesday, August 20, 2014 2:51 PM
To: Boyd Casey
Cc: [3]detomaso at poca.com; Larry Finch
Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Flex-a-lite question
To paraphrase an old Hewlett-Packard mantra,A "You cannot fix what you
cannot measure."
Jeff
6559
On Wed, Aug 20, 2014 at 12:06 PM, Boyd Casey <[4]boyd411 at gmail.com>
wrote:
>A Mike Short makes a good pointA when he mentions that Larry is
assigning
anthropomorphic
> attributes to parts of his Pantera.(A Anthropomorphism is the
attribution
> of *human characteristics to machines or animals). **If Larry (or
anyone
> else)A thinks that their automobiles fans ( or any other component )
is
not
> operating up to specifications they can easily measure the
effectiveness
of
> the system in question.A You can easily obtain a variety of devices
that
> are capable of measuring the actual airflow, rpm of the fan blades
etc. As
> an example for measuring CFM ( which can be useful for measuring air
flow
> for cooling or forA air intake for the engine** , **Carburetion,
**Fu**el
> injection etc.)A This linkA shows a small sample of some of the
devices
>
.[5]http://www.google.com/search?client=safari&rls=en&q=gmail&ie=UTF-8&
oe=UTF-8
#q=HVAC+cfm+meter&rls=en
>
<[6]http://www.google.com/search?client=safari&rls=en&q=gmail&ie=UTF
-8&oe=UTF-8
#q=HVAC+cfm+meter&rls=en>
>A This removes the question of wondering if your car or fans
are"tired"
and
> replaces the *Anthropomorphic attributes with technically
appropriate and
> scientifically accurate measurement devices. Although many of us like
to
> assign a name and or a gender to our favorite "Toys" which I believe
can
> actually enhance the ownership experienceA when it comes to
maintaining
> peak operating performance it is necessary to rely on technology and
not
> asking our Cat " If it's a little tired"
>
> Boyd
>
>
> On Wed, Aug 20, 2014 at 11:03 AM, Jeff Detrich
<[7]jjdetrich at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>>A A Check your fan grounds.
>>A A Jeff
>>A A 6559
>>
>>A A On Sun, Feb 23, 2014 at 1:04 PM, Larry Finch
<[1][8]fresnofinches at aol.com
>> >
>>A A wrote:
>>
>>A A A AA A All,
>>A A A AA A I've come to the conclusion the Hall Pantera Meriah
fans are
>>A A A getting
>>A A A AA A tired and are not up to the task of slow traffic
cooling.
>>A A A AA A I say this because in Summer/Winter I now always see a
large
>>A A A jump in
>>A A A AA A temp when I get into city traffic versus highway
travel. 20-30
>>A A A degrees
>>A A A AA A jump. Wasn't always that way.
>>A A A AA A I would rather not remount the three-pass Quella/Ron
Francis
>>A A A radiator
>>A A A AA A for sucker fans, so I'm looking at pushers.
>>A A A AA A Felx-a-lite offers model 440 as a pusher. 2500 cfm,
S-blades,
>>A A A etc.
>>A A A AA A But I noted the online-available PDF installation
sheet groups
>>A A A the 440
>>A A A AA A pusher and the 420 puller in the same section.
>>A A A AA A It instructs the 420 puller to be wired red/red and
>>A A A black/black, fan to
>>A A A AA A power source. And to reverse the wiring to red/black
and
>>A A A black/red for
>>A A A AA A the 440 pusher model. This tells me the fan blades are
expected
>>A A A to
>>A A A AA A perform whether rotating CW or CCW. But I've always
heard
>>A A A blades are
>>A A A AA A optimal for one direction only, and show reduced
efficiency
>>A A A when
>>A A A AA A rotating opposite to the intended function.
>>A A A AA A I will try to talk with a Flex-a-lite tech about this
on
>>A A A Monday, but in
>>A A A AA A the meantime I'm asking for any of your ideas,
thoughts and
>>A A A AA A suggestions.
>>A A A AA A Thanks,
>>A A A AA A Larry
>>A A A AA A ......and no, I don't know why my emails (at least in
the
>>A A A archives) are
>>A A A AA A now getting duplicated by the List software.
>>
>>A A A _______________________________________________
>>A A A Detomaso Forum Managed by POCA
>>A A A DeTomaso mailing list
>>A A A [2][9]DeTomaso at poca.com
>>A A A [3][10]http://poca.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso_poca.com
>>
>> References
>>
>>A A 1. mailto:[11]fresnofinches at aol.com
>>
>>A A 2. mailto:[12]DeTomaso at poca.com
>>A A 3. [13]http://poca.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso_poca.com
>>
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>>
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>
References
1. mailto:Larry at ohiotimecorp.com
2. mailto:detomaso-bounces at poca.com
3. mailto:detomaso at poca.com
4. mailto:boyd411 at gmail.com
5. http://www.google.com/search?client=safari&rls=en&q=gmail&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8#q=HVC+cfm+meteer&rls=en
6. http://www.google.com/search?client=safari&rls=en&q=gmail&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8#q=HVC+cfm+meteer&rls=en
7. mailto:jjdetrich at gmail.com
8. mailto:fresnofinches at aol.com
9. mailto:DeTomaso at poca.com
10. http://poca.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso_poca.com
11. mailto:fresnofinches at aol.com
12. mailto:DeTomaso at poca.com
13. http://poca.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso_poca.com
14. mailto:DeTomaso at poca.com
15. http://poca.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso_poca.com
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