[DeTomaso] Flex-a-lite question

[Larry - Ohio Time]

<< You cannot fix what you cannot measure.">>

So Jeff your saying there's hope for me?


Larry (12" but don't use it as a rule) - Cleveland


-----Original Message-----
From: DeTomaso [mailto:detomaso-bounces at poca.com] On Behalf Of Jeff Detrich
Sent: Wednesday, August 20, 2014 2:51 PM
To: Boyd Casey
Cc: detomaso at poca.com; Larry Finch
Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Flex-a-lite question

To paraphrase an old Hewlett-Packard mantra,  "You cannot fix what you
cannot measure."

Jeff
6559


On Wed, Aug 20, 2014 at 12:06 PM, Boyd Casey <boyd411 at gmail.com> wrote:

>  Mike Short makes a good point  when he mentions that Larry is assigning
anthropomorphic
> attributes to parts of his Pantera.(  Anthropomorphism is the attribution
> of *human characteristics to machines or animals). **If Larry (or anyone
> else)  thinks that their automobiles fans ( or any other component ) is
not
> operating up to specifications they can easily measure the effectiveness
of
> the system in question.  You can easily obtain a variety of devices that
> are capable of measuring the actual airflow, rpm of the fan blades etc. As
> an example for measuring CFM ( which can be useful for measuring air flow
> for cooling or for  air intake for the engine** , **Carburetion, **Fu**el
> injection etc.)  This link  shows a small sample of some of the devices
>
.http://www.google.com/search?client=safari&rls=en&q=gmail&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8
#q=HVAC+cfm+meter&rls=en
>
<http://www.google.com/search?client=safari&rls=en&q=gmail&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8
#q=HVAC+cfm+meter&rls=en>
>  This removes the question of wondering if your car or fans are"tired"
and
> replaces the *Anthropomorphic attributes with technically appropriate and
> scientifically accurate measurement devices. Although many of us like to
> assign a name and or a gender to our favorite "Toys" which I believe can
> actually enhance the ownership experience  when it comes to maintaining
> peak operating performance it is necessary to rely on technology and not
> asking our Cat " If it's a little tired"
>
> Boyd
>
>
> On Wed, Aug 20, 2014 at 11:03 AM, Jeff Detrich <jjdetrich at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>>    Check your fan grounds.
>>    Jeff
>>    6559
>>
>>    On Sun, Feb 23, 2014 at 1:04 PM, Larry Finch <[1]fresnofinches at aol.com
>> >
>>    wrote:
>>
>>      A  A All,
>>      A  A I've come to the conclusion the Hall Pantera Meriah fans are
>>      getting
>>      A  A tired and are not up to the task of slow traffic cooling.
>>      A  A I say this because in Summer/Winter I now always see a large
>>      jump in
>>      A  A temp when I get into city traffic versus highway travel. 20-30
>>      degrees
>>      A  A jump. Wasn't always that way.
>>      A  A I would rather not remount the three-pass Quella/Ron Francis
>>      radiator
>>      A  A for sucker fans, so I'm looking at pushers.
>>      A  A Felx-a-lite offers model 440 as a pusher. 2500 cfm, S-blades,
>>      etc.
>>      A  A But I noted the online-available PDF installation sheet groups
>>      the 440
>>      A  A pusher and the 420 puller in the same section.
>>      A  A It instructs the 420 puller to be wired red/red and
>>      black/black, fan to
>>      A  A power source. And to reverse the wiring to red/black and
>>      black/red for
>>      A  A the 440 pusher model. This tells me the fan blades are expected
>>      to
>>      A  A perform whether rotating CW or CCW. But I've always heard
>>      blades are
>>      A  A optimal for one direction only, and show reduced efficiency
>>      when
>>      A  A rotating opposite to the intended function.
>>      A  A I will try to talk with a Flex-a-lite tech about this on
>>      Monday, but in
>>      A  A the meantime I'm asking for any of your ideas, thoughts and
>>      A  A suggestions.
>>      A  A Thanks,
>>      A  A Larry
>>      A  A ......and no, I don't know why my emails (at least in the
>>      archives) are
>>      A  A now getting duplicated by the List software.
>>
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