[DeTomaso] Techno Question: Bung placement on headers for A/F sensor
cengles at cox.net
cengles at cox.net
Mon Aug 18 08:22:04 EDT 2014
Dear Julian,
That is helpful and thank you. I am a bit confused as to
whether there is difference between the sensor for the A/F ratio meter
and the sensor for EFI. Are they both the same oxygen sensor?
Warmest regards, Chuck Engles
On Sun, Aug 17, 2014 at 9:39 PM, Julian Kift wrote:
Some useful information in this installation guide;
http://wbo2.com/lsu/lsuinstal.pdf
Julian
> From: cengles at cox.net To: doug351c at gmail.com; davel at emspace.com;
> detomaso at poca.com Date: Sun, 17 Aug 2014 20:55:18 -0500 Subject: Re:
> [DeTomaso] Techno Question: Bung placement on headers for A/F sensor
> Dear Dave,
>
> So to rephrase what you said (which is very interesting),
> the further down the exhaust the better the sensor reads and reads at
> lower rpms. Therefore, the best point is as far back as possible,
> i.e. just before the muffler?
> I have read that the Innovate is supposed to be the fastest
> sampling or testing unit. Does that have any bearing on your
> recommendation for a bung further down the exhaust pipe to obtain
> better readings?
>
> Warmest regards, Chuck Engles
>
>
> -----Original Message----- From: DeTomaso
> [mailto:detomaso-bounces at poca.com] On Behalf Of doug351c Sent: Sunday,
> August 17, 2014 3:17 PM To: Dave Londry; detomaso at poca.com Subject:
> Re: [DeTomaso] Techno Question: Bung placement on headers for A/F
> sensor
> Dave,
> By "outlet" do you mean header collector flange?
> Doug Braun blue 73L #5505
> -----Original Message----- From: DeTomaso
> [mailto:detomaso-bounces at poca.com]On Behalf Of Dave Londry Sent:
> Sunday, August 17, 2014 1:05 PM To: detomaso at poca.com Subject: Re:
> [DeTomaso] Techno Question: Bung placement on headers for A/F sensor
>
> That is good stuff Chuck and giving all that info first priority,
> the farther you are from the outlet - the lower the rpm at which
> you'll get stable A/F readings. The reversions in our short exhaust
> systems are really fierce. Below about 1700 rpm I get nothing but
> crap. dave
>
> On 17/08/2014 12:03 PM, Charles Engles wrote:
>> Dear SOBill, Jerry, Asa and Mike
>>
>>
>> Great minds think alike and experience makes
>> the optimal location so much easier to pinpoint. Thanks!
>>
>>
>> Warmest regards, Chuck
>> Engles
>>
>> From: SOBill at aol.com [mailto:SOBill at aol.com] Sent: Sunday,
>> August 17, 2014 12:02 PM To: cengles at cox.net; detomaso at poca.com
>> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Techno Question: Bung placement on headers
>> for A/F sensor
>>
>> Chuck,
>>
>> The bung should be mounted at the 12 o'clock position so
>> condensation does get to the sensor on startup.
>>
>> I welded mine on the exhaust pipe just after the collector
>> because my engine was in the car and I could easily remove the
>> exhaust pipe to do the welding.
>>
>> SOBill
>>
>> The main thing is to keep the main thing the main thing. Do
>> the best you can with what your have where you are. Have fun
>> today! SOBill
>>
>> In a message dated 8/17/2014 8:57:41 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time,
>> [1]cengles at cox.net writes:
>> Dear Forum, I will soon have both
>> engines out of both Panteras for work. It dawned on me
>> that this would be a good time to add a bung on the
>> headers for use with and A/F meter sensor. I have an email sent
>> to Innovate for their recommendations, but it is the weekend.
>> I assume that the bung should be welded into the end of
>> the header collector. Does anyone have
>> knowledge of the optimal spot to put the bung?
>> Warmest regards, Chuck Engles Dear Forum,
>> I will soon have both engines out of both Panteras for
>> work. It dawned on me that this would be a good time to add a
>> bung on the headers for use with and A/F meter sensor. I
>> have an email sent to Innovate for their
>> recommendations, but it is the weekend. I assume
>> that the bung should be welded into the end of the header
>> collector. Does anyone have knowledge of
>> the optimal spot to put the bung?
>> Warmest regards, Chuck Engles
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Dear Julian,
That is helpful and thank you. I am a bit confused as to
whether there is difference between the sensor for the A/F ratio meter
and the sensor for EFI. Are they both the same oxygen sensor?
Warmest regards, Chuck Engles
On Sun, Aug 17, 2014 at 9:39 PM, Julian Kift wrote:
Some useful information in this installation guide;
http://wbo2.com/lsu/lsuinstal.pdf
Julian
> From: cengles at cox.net
> To: doug351c at gmail.com; davel at emspace.com; detomaso at poca.com
> Date: Sun, 17 Aug 2014 20:55:18 -0500
> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Techno Question: Bung placement on headers
for A/F sensor
>
> Dear Dave,
>
>
> So to rephrase what you said (which is very interesting),
the
> further down the exhaust the better the sensor reads and reads at
lower
> rpms. Therefore, the best point is as far back as possible, i.e.
just
> before the muffler?
>
> I have read that the Innovate is supposed to be the fastest
> sampling or testing unit. Does that have any bearing on your
recommendation
> for a bung further down the exhaust pipe to obtain better readings?
>
>
> Warmest regards, Chuck Engles
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: DeTomaso [mailto:detomaso-bounces at poca.com] On Behalf Of
doug351c
> Sent: Sunday, August 17, 2014 3:17 PM
> To: Dave Londry; detomaso at poca.com
> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Techno Question: Bung placement on headers
for A/F
> sensor
>
> Dave,
>
> By "outlet" do you mean header collector flange?
>
> Doug Braun
> blue 73L #5505
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: DeTomaso [mailto:detomaso-bounces at poca.com]On Behalf Of Dave
Londry
> Sent: Sunday, August 17, 2014 1:05 PM
> To: detomaso at poca.com
> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Techno Question: Bung placement on headers
for A/F
> sensor
>
>
> That is good stuff Chuck and giving all that info first priority,
> the farther you are from the outlet - the lower the rpm at which
you'll
> get stable A/F readings.
> The reversions in our short exhaust systems are really fierce.
> Below about 1700 rpm I get nothing but crap.
> dave
>
>
> On 17/08/2014 12:03 PM, Charles Engles wrote:
> > Dear SOBill, Jerry, Asa and Mike
> >
> >
> >
> > Great minds think alike and experience
makes the
> > optimal location so much easier to pinpoint. Thanks!
> >
> >
> >
> > Warmest regards, Chuck
Engles
> >
> >
> > From: SOBill at aol.com [mailto:SOBill at aol.com]
> > Sent: Sunday, August 17, 2014 12:02 PM
> > To: cengles at cox.net; detomaso at poca.com
> > Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Techno Question: Bung placement on
headers for
> > A/F sensor
> >
> >
> > Chuck,
> >
> >
> > The bung should be mounted at the 12 o'clock position so
condensation
> > does get to the sensor on startup.
> >
> >
> > I welded mine on the exhaust pipe just after the collector
because my
> > engine was in the car and I could easily remove the exhaust
pipe to do
> > the welding.
> >
> >
> > SOBill
> >
> >
> > The main thing is to keep the main thing the main thing.
> > Do the best you can with what your have where you are.
> > Have fun today!
> > SOBill
> >
> >
> > In a message dated 8/17/2014 8:57:41 A.M. Pacific Daylight
Time,
> > [1]cengles at cox.net writes:
> >
> > Dear Forum,
> > I will soon have both engines out of both
> > Panteras for
> > work. It dawned on me that this would be a good time to add
a bung
> > on the
> > headers for use with and A/F meter sensor. I have an email
sent
> > to
> > Innovate for their recommendations, but it is the weekend.
I
> > assume that
> > the bung should be welded into the end of the header
collector.
> > Does anyone have knowledge of the optimal
spot
> > to put
> > the bung?
> > Warmest regards,
Chuck
> > Engles
> > Dear Forum,
> > I will soon have both engines out of
both
> > Panteras
> > for work. It dawned on me that this would be a good time
to add
> > a bung
> > on the headers for use with and A/F meter sensor. I
have an
> > email
> > sent to Innovate for their recommendations, but it is the
> > weekend. I
> > assume that the bung should be welded into the end of the
header
> > collector.
> > Does anyone have knowledge of the
optimal
> > spot to
> > put the bung?
> > Warmest
regards,
> > Chuck
> > Engles
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> >
> > 1. mailto:cengles at cox.net
> > 2. mailto:DeTomaso at poca.com
> > 3. http://poca.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso_poca.com
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> >
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