[DeTomaso] Techno Question: Bung placement on headers for A/F sensor
Julian Kift
julian_kift at hotmail.com
Sun Aug 17 22:39:44 EDT 2014
Some useful information in this installation guide;
http://wbo2.com/lsu/lsuinstal.pdf
Julian
> From: cengles at cox.net
> To: doug351c at gmail.com; davel at emspace.com; detomaso at poca.com
> Date: Sun, 17 Aug 2014 20:55:18 -0500
> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Techno Question: Bung placement on headers for A/F sensor
>
> Dear Dave,
>
>
> So to rephrase what you said (which is very interesting), the
> further down the exhaust the better the sensor reads and reads at lower
> rpms. Therefore, the best point is as far back as possible, i.e. just
> before the muffler?
>
> I have read that the Innovate is supposed to be the fastest
> sampling or testing unit. Does that have any bearing on your recommendation
> for a bung further down the exhaust pipe to obtain better readings?
>
>
> Warmest regards, Chuck Engles
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: DeTomaso [mailto:detomaso-bounces at poca.com] On Behalf Of doug351c
> Sent: Sunday, August 17, 2014 3:17 PM
> To: Dave Londry; detomaso at poca.com
> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Techno Question: Bung placement on headers for A/F
> sensor
>
> Dave,
>
> By "outlet" do you mean header collector flange?
>
> Doug Braun
> blue 73L #5505
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: DeTomaso [mailto:detomaso-bounces at poca.com]On Behalf Of Dave Londry
> Sent: Sunday, August 17, 2014 1:05 PM
> To: detomaso at poca.com
> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Techno Question: Bung placement on headers for A/F
> sensor
>
>
> That is good stuff Chuck and giving all that info first priority,
> the farther you are from the outlet - the lower the rpm at which you'll
> get stable A/F readings.
> The reversions in our short exhaust systems are really fierce.
> Below about 1700 rpm I get nothing but crap.
> dave
>
>
> On 17/08/2014 12:03 PM, Charles Engles wrote:
> > Dear SOBill, Jerry, Asa and Mike
> >
> >
> >
> > Great minds think alike and experience makes the
> > optimal location so much easier to pinpoint. Thanks!
> >
> >
> >
> > Warmest regards, Chuck Engles
> >
> >
> > From: SOBill at aol.com [mailto:SOBill at aol.com]
> > Sent: Sunday, August 17, 2014 12:02 PM
> > To: cengles at cox.net; detomaso at poca.com
> > Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Techno Question: Bung placement on headers for
> > A/F sensor
> >
> >
> > Chuck,
> >
> >
> > The bung should be mounted at the 12 o'clock position so condensation
> > does get to the sensor on startup.
> >
> >
> > I welded mine on the exhaust pipe just after the collector because my
> > engine was in the car and I could easily remove the exhaust pipe to do
> > the welding.
> >
> >
> > SOBill
> >
> >
> > The main thing is to keep the main thing the main thing.
> > Do the best you can with what your have where you are.
> > Have fun today!
> > SOBill
> >
> >
> > In a message dated 8/17/2014 8:57:41 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time,
> > [1]cengles at cox.net writes:
> >
> > Dear Forum,
> > I will soon have both engines out of both
> > Panteras for
> > work. It dawned on me that this would be a good time to add a bung
> > on the
> > headers for use with and A/F meter sensor. I have an email sent
> > to
> > Innovate for their recommendations, but it is the weekend. I
> > assume that
> > the bung should be welded into the end of the header collector.
> > Does anyone have knowledge of the optimal spot
> > to put
> > the bung?
> > Warmest regards, Chuck
> > Engles
> > Dear Forum,
> > I will soon have both engines out of both
> > Panteras
> > for work. It dawned on me that this would be a good time to add
> > a bung
> > on the headers for use with and A/F meter sensor. I have an
> > email
> > sent to Innovate for their recommendations, but it is the
> > weekend. I
> > assume that the bung should be welded into the end of the header
> > collector.
> > Does anyone have knowledge of the optimal
> > spot to
> > put the bung?
> > Warmest regards,
> > Chuck
> > Engles
> > _______________________________________________
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> >
> > References
> >
> > 1. mailto:cengles at cox.net
> > 2. mailto:DeTomaso at poca.com
> > 3. http://poca.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso_poca.com
> >
> >
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> >
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> >
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> > DeTomaso at poca.com
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>
>
>
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Some useful information in this installation guide;
http://wbo2.com/lsu/lsuinstal.pdf
Julian
> From: cengles at cox.net
> To: doug351c at gmail.com; davel at emspace.com; detomaso at poca.com
> Date: Sun, 17 Aug 2014 20:55:18 -0500
> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Techno Question: Bung placement on headers
for A/F sensor
>
> Dear Dave,
>
>
> So to rephrase what you said (which is very interesting), the
> further down the exhaust the better the sensor reads and reads at
lower
> rpms. Therefore, the best point is as far back as possible, i.e. just
> before the muffler?
>
> I have read that the Innovate is supposed to be the fastest
> sampling or testing unit. Does that have any bearing on your
recommendation
> for a bung further down the exhaust pipe to obtain better readings?
>
>
> Warmest regards, Chuck Engles
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: DeTomaso [mailto:detomaso-bounces at poca.com] On Behalf Of
doug351c
> Sent: Sunday, August 17, 2014 3:17 PM
> To: Dave Londry; detomaso at poca.com
> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Techno Question: Bung placement on headers
for A/F
> sensor
>
> Dave,
>
> By "outlet" do you mean header collector flange?
>
> Doug Braun
> blue 73L #5505
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: DeTomaso [mailto:detomaso-bounces at poca.com]On Behalf Of Dave
Londry
> Sent: Sunday, August 17, 2014 1:05 PM
> To: detomaso at poca.com
> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Techno Question: Bung placement on headers
for A/F
> sensor
>
>
> That is good stuff Chuck and giving all that info first priority,
> the farther you are from the outlet - the lower the rpm at which
you'll
> get stable A/F readings.
> The reversions in our short exhaust systems are really fierce.
> Below about 1700 rpm I get nothing but crap.
> dave
>
>
> On 17/08/2014 12:03 PM, Charles Engles wrote:
> > Dear SOBill, Jerry, Asa and Mike
> >
> >
> >
> > Great minds think alike and experience makes the
> > optimal location so much easier to pinpoint. Thanks!
> >
> >
> >
> > Warmest regards, Chuck Engles
> >
> >
> > From: SOBill at aol.com [mailto:SOBill at aol.com]
> > Sent: Sunday, August 17, 2014 12:02 PM
> > To: cengles at cox.net; detomaso at poca.com
> > Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Techno Question: Bung placement on headers
for
> > A/F sensor
> >
> >
> > Chuck,
> >
> >
> > The bung should be mounted at the 12 o'clock position so
condensation
> > does get to the sensor on startup.
> >
> >
> > I welded mine on the exhaust pipe just after the collector because
my
> > engine was in the car and I could easily remove the exhaust pipe to
do
> > the welding.
> >
> >
> > SOBill
> >
> >
> > The main thing is to keep the main thing the main thing.
> > Do the best you can with what your have where you are.
> > Have fun today!
> > SOBill
> >
> >
> > In a message dated 8/17/2014 8:57:41 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time,
> > [1]cengles at cox.net writes:
> >
> > Dear Forum,
> > I will soon have both engines out of both
> > Panteras for
> > work. It dawned on me that this would be a good time to add a bung
> > on the
> > headers for use with and A/F meter sensor. I have an email sent
> > to
> > Innovate for their recommendations, but it is the weekend. I
> > assume that
> > the bung should be welded into the end of the header collector.
> > Does anyone have knowledge of the optimal spot
> > to put
> > the bung?
> > Warmest regards, Chuck
> > Engles
> > Dear Forum,
> > I will soon have both engines out of both
> > Panteras
> > for work. It dawned on me that this would be a good time to add
> > a bung
> > on the headers for use with and A/F meter sensor. I have an
> > email
> > sent to Innovate for their recommendations, but it is the
> > weekend. I
> > assume that the bung should be welded into the end of the header
> > collector.
> > Does anyone have knowledge of the optimal
> > spot to
> > put the bung?
> > Warmest regards,
> > Chuck
> > Engles
> > _______________________________________________
> > Detomaso Forum Managed by POCA
> > DeTomaso mailing list
> > [2]DeTomaso at poca.com
> > [3]http://poca.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso_poca.com
> >
> > References
> >
> > 1. mailto:cengles at cox.net
> > 2. mailto:DeTomaso at poca.com
> > 3. http://poca.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso_poca.com
> >
> >
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> >
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> >
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>
>
>
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