[DeTomaso] 17-inch wheel back spacing
Boyd Casey
boyd411 at gmail.com
Thu Aug 14 00:57:10 EDT 2014
On Thu, Aug 14, 2014 at 12:55 AM, Boyd Casey <boyd411 at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> From: Boyd Casey <boyd411 at gmail.com>
> Date: Tue, Aug 12, 2014 at 9:10 AM
> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] 17-inch wheel back spacing
> To: Robert Pink <robpink2012 at gmail.com>
> Cc: "shawkins777 at comcast.net" <shawkins777 at comcast.net>, "detomaso at poca
> .com" <detomaso at poca.com>
>
>
> IMHO the only way to be safe and sure is to measure the particular car in
> question.
>
> This link contains the directions I used. *Back space and off set. *
> Some vendors will even send you a test wheel with the back space and
> offset you provide.
>
> True forged the people who made and sold me my wheels were kind enough to
> send an unfinished front and rear wheel made to the measurements for back
> space and offset that I provided.This way I was able to test fitment
> before finalizing the order. They have my wheels featured on their web
> page. http://trueforgedwheels.com/#/content/pictures3/Pantera/
> Customers cars / Pantera 2/2
>
> Boyd
>
>
> On Tue, Aug 12, 2014 at 8:33 AM, Robert Pink <robpink2012 at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> Well if you have 17 inchA A front tire that is just a touch too big and
>> you don't roll the front fender and you do a 720 degree spin on a race
>> track. You get body work. Just saying .
>>
>> Strongly suggest rolling the front fender if you go to 17 inch front
>> wheels.
>>
>> On Monday, August 11, 2014, <[1]shawkins777 at comcast.net> wrote:
>>
>> A A But if overall diameter is increased it can change the scrub
>> radius.
>> A A Steve
>> A A
>> A __________________________________________________________________
>> A A From: "doug351c" <[2]doug351c at gmail.com>
>> A A To: "MikeLDrew" <[3]MikeLDrew at aol.com>
>> A A Cc: "forum, Pantera" <[4]detomaso at poca.com>
>> A A Sent: Monday, August 11, 2014 8:58:38 PM
>> A A Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] 17-inch wheel back spacing
>> A A Let me explain further.
>> A A The 5.25" back spacing for the stock 8x15 should directly apply
>> to the
>> A A 8x17
>> A A for the front. A Wheel diameter doesn't affect where the edges
>> of the
>> A A tire
>> A A are for a given tire width and outer tire diameter. A For a
>> stock bodied
>> A A Pantera that has had its spacers removed, you can't go any
>> crazier than
>> A A a
>> A A 245mm wide tire on the front and sometimes you have to drop
>> back to 235
>> A A or
>> A A 225 depending on the particular car.
>> A A At the rear, if you put 1/2 the additional 1" wider wheel width
>> on each
>> A A side
>> A A of the wheel, all you'll get is a wider tire section width near
>> the rim
>> A A with
>> A A the same section width at the crown of the tread. A For an 11"
>> wheel vs
>> A A the
>> A A 10" Campy, a 5.75" back spacing achieves this because it is the
>> stock
>> A A 10"
>> A A wide Campy's 5.25" backspace + 1/2 the additional wheel width.
>> A The
>> A A tire
>> A A center remains at the same point on the car with either the
>> stock 8x15
>> A A Campy
>> A A or the 8x17. A What could be a safer choice that this?
>> A A Doug Braun
>> A A -----Original Message-----
>> A A From: Mike Drew [mailto:[5]MikeLDrew at aol.com]
>> A A Sent: Monday, August 11, 2014 5:42 PM
>> A A To: <[6]doug351c at gmail.com>
>> A A Cc: POCA Forum Mailing List
>> A A Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] 17-inch wheel back spacing
>> A A Thanks Doug. But as I said, back spacing for different size
>> wheels
>> A A isn't
>> A A really useful. I appreciate your effort nonetheless!
>> A A Mike
>> A A Sent from my iPhone
>> A A On Aug 11, 2014, at 17:38, "doug351c" <[7]doug351c at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>> A A > Mike,
>> A A >
>> A A > My records show the following stock Back Spacings (rim
>> mounting face
>> A A to
>> A A > inner rim edge):
>> A A >
>> A A > Stock Campy, 7x15 4.25"
>> A A > A A A A A A 8x15 5.25"
>> A A > A A A A 10x15 5.25"
>> A A >
>> A A > I used 5.25" back spacing for both my front and rear 8x16"
>> and 10x16"
>> A A > Compomotive wheels.
>> A A >
>> A A > But for an 11" wide rim I can't tell you where to put the
>> extra inch
>> A A but
>> A A > splitting the difference at 5.75" might be pretty close.
>> A A >
>> A A > Doug Braun
>> A A >
>> A A > -----Original Message-----
>> A A > From: DeTomaso [mailto:[8]detomaso-bounces at poca.com]On Behalf
>> Of Mike
>> A A Drew
>> A A > via DeTomaso
>> A A > Sent: Monday, August 11, 2014 5:10 PM
>> A A > To: [9]detomaso at poca.com
>> A A > Subject: [DeTomaso] 17-inch wheel back spacing
>> A A >
>> A A >
>> A A > Guys,
>> A A >
>> A A > Somebody has asked me what optimal back spacing would be for
>> 17x8 and
>> A A 17x11
>> A A > wheels?
>> A A >
>> A A > Since back spacing varies with wheel width, the spacing of
>> wheels
>> A A with
>> A A other
>> A A > than these dimensions is irrelevant. If you know 17x8 and
>> 17x11
>> A A numbers
>> A A > please let me know.
>> A A >
>> A A > Thanks!
>> A A >
>> A A > Mike
>> A A >
>> A A > Sent from my iPhone
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On Thu, Aug 14, 2014 at 12:55 AM, Boyd Casey <[1]boyd411 at gmail.com>
wrote:
---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: Boyd Casey <[2]boyd411 at gmail.com>
Date: Tue, Aug 12, 2014 at 9:10 AM
Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] 17-inch wheel back spacing
To: Robert Pink <[3]robpink2012 at gmail.com>
Cc: "[4]shawkins777 at comcast.net" <[5]shawkins777 at comcast.net>,
"[6]detomaso at poca.com" <[7]detomaso at poca.com>
IMHO the only way to be safe and sure is to measure the particular car
in question.
This link contains the directions I used.A Back space and off set.A
Some vendors will even send you a test wheel with the back space and
offset you provide.
True forged the people who made and sold me my wheels A were kind
enough to send an unfinished front and rear wheel made to the
measurements for back space and offset A that I provided.This way I was
able to test fitment before finalizing the order. They have my wheels
featured on their web page.
A [8]http://trueforgedwheels.com/#/content/pictures3/Pantera/A
A Customers cars / Pantera 2/2
Boyd
On Tue, Aug 12, 2014 at 8:33 AM, Robert Pink <[9]robpink2012 at gmail.com>
wrote:
A A Well if you have 17 inchA A front tire that is just a touch too
big and
A A you don't roll the front fender and you do a 720 degree spin on a
race
A A track. You get body work. Just saying .
A A Strongly suggest rolling the front fender if you go to 17 inch
front
A A wheels.
A A On Monday, August 11, 2014, <[1][10]shawkins777 at comcast.net>
wrote:
A A A A A A But if overall diameter is increased it can change the
scrub
A A A radius.
A A A A A A Steve
A A A A A A
A A A A
__________________________________________________________________
A A A A A A From: "doug351c" <[2][11]doug351c at gmail.com>
A A A A A A To: "MikeLDrew" <[3][12]MikeLDrew at aol.com>
A A A A A A Cc: "forum, Pantera" <[4][13]detomaso at poca.com>
A A A A A A Sent: Monday, August 11, 2014 8:58:38 PM
A A A A A A Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] 17-inch wheel back spacing
A A A A A A Let me explain further.
A A A A A A The 5.25" back spacing for the stock 8x15 should directly
apply
A A A to the
A A A A A A 8x17
A A A A A A for the front. A Wheel diameter doesn't affect where the
edges
A A A of the
A A A A A A tire
A A A A A A are for a given tire width and outer tire diameter. A For
a
A A A stock bodied
A A A A A A Pantera that has had its spacers removed, you can't go
any
A A A crazier than
A A A A A A a
A A A A A A 245mm wide tire on the front and sometimes you have to
drop
A A A back to 235
A A A A A A or
A A A A A A 225 depending on the particular car.
A A A A A A At the rear, if you put 1/2 the additional 1" wider wheel
width
A A A on each
A A A A A A side
A A A A A A of the wheel, all you'll get is a wider tire section
width near
A A A the rim
A A A A A A with
A A A A A A the same section width at the crown of the tread. A For
an 11"
A A A wheel vs
A A A A A A the
A A A A A A 10" Campy, a 5.75" back spacing achieves this because it
is the
A A A stock
A A A A A A 10"
A A A A A A wide Campy's 5.25" backspace + 1/2 the additional wheel
width.
A A A A The
A A A A A A tire
A A A A A A center remains at the same point on the car with either
the
A A A stock 8x15
A A A A A A Campy
A A A A A A or the 8x17. A What could be a safer choice that this?
A A A A A A Doug Braun
A A A A A A -----Original Message-----
A A A A A A From: Mike Drew [mailto:[5][14]MikeLDrew at aol.com]
A A A A A A Sent: Monday, August 11, 2014 5:42 PM
A A A A A A To: <[6][15]doug351c at gmail.com>
A A A A A A Cc: POCA Forum Mailing List
A A A A A A Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] 17-inch wheel back spacing
A A A A A A Thanks Doug. But as I said, back spacing for different
size
A A A wheels
A A A A A A isn't
A A A A A A really useful. I appreciate your effort nonetheless!
A A A A A A Mike
A A A A A A Sent from my iPhone
A A A A A A On Aug 11, 2014, at 17:38, "doug351c"
<[7][16]doug351c at gmail.com>
A A A wrote:
A A A A A A > Mike,
A A A A A A >
A A A A A A > My records show the following stock Back Spacings (rim
A A A mounting face
A A A A A A to
A A A A A A > inner rim edge):
A A A A A A >
A A A A A A > Stock Campy, 7x15 4.25"
A A A A A A > A A A A A A A A A A A A 8x15 5.25"
A A A A A A > A A A A A A A 10x15 5.25"
A A A A A A >
A A A A A A > I used 5.25" back spacing for both my front and rear
8x16"
A A A and 10x16"
A A A A A A > Compomotive wheels.
A A A A A A >
A A A A A A > But for an 11" wide rim I can't tell you where to put
the
A A A extra inch
A A A A A A but
A A A A A A > splitting the difference at 5.75" might be pretty
close.
A A A A A A >
A A A A A A > Doug Braun
A A A A A A >
A A A A A A > -----Original Message-----
A A A A A A > From: DeTomaso
[mailto:[8][17]detomaso-bounces at poca.com]On Behalf
A A A Of Mike
A A A A A A Drew
A A A A A A > via DeTomaso
A A A A A A > Sent: Monday, August 11, 2014 5:10 PM
A A A A A A > To: [9][18]detomaso at poca.com
A A A A A A > Subject: [DeTomaso] 17-inch wheel back spacing
A A A A A A >
A A A A A A >
A A A A A A > Guys,
A A A A A A >
A A A A A A > Somebody has asked me what optimal back spacing would
be for
A A A 17x8 and
A A A A A A 17x11
A A A A A A > wheels?
A A A A A A >
A A A A A A > Since back spacing varies with wheel width, the spacing
of
A A A wheels
A A A A A A with
A A A A A A other
A A A A A A > than these dimensions is irrelevant. If you know 17x8
and
A A A 17x11
A A A A A A numbers
A A A A A A > please let me know.
A A A A A A >
A A A A A A > Thanks!
A A A A A A >
A A A A A A > Mike
A A A A A A >
A A A A A A > Sent from my iPhone
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6. mailto:detomaso at poca.com
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8. http://trueforgedwheels.com/#/content/pictures3/Pantera/
9. mailto:robpink2012 at gmail.com
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12. mailto:MikeLDrew at aol.com
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