[DeTomaso] Fwd: 17-inch wheel back spacing
Boyd Casey
boyd411 at gmail.com
Thu Aug 14 00:55:39 EDT 2014
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From: Boyd Casey <boyd411 at gmail.com>
Date: Tue, Aug 12, 2014 at 9:10 AM
Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] 17-inch wheel back spacing
To: Robert Pink <robpink2012 at gmail.com>
Cc: "shawkins777 at comcast.net" <shawkins777 at comcast.net>, "detomaso at poca.com"
<detomaso at poca.com>
IMHO the only way to be safe and sure is to measure the particular car in
question.
This link contains the directions I used. *Back space and off set. *
Some vendors will even send you a test wheel with the back space and offset
you provide.
True forged the people who made and sold me my wheels were kind enough to
send an unfinished front and rear wheel made to the measurements for back
space and offset that I provided.This way I was able to test fitment
before finalizing the order. They have my wheels featured on their web
page. http://trueforgedwheels.com/#/content/pictures3/Pantera/
Customers cars / Pantera 2/2
Boyd
On Tue, Aug 12, 2014 at 8:33 AM, Robert Pink <robpink2012 at gmail.com> wrote:
> Well if you have 17 inchA A front tire that is just a touch too big and
> you don't roll the front fender and you do a 720 degree spin on a race
> track. You get body work. Just saying .
>
> Strongly suggest rolling the front fender if you go to 17 inch front
> wheels.
>
> On Monday, August 11, 2014, <[1]shawkins777 at comcast.net> wrote:
>
> A A But if overall diameter is increased it can change the scrub
> radius.
> A A Steve
> A A
> A __________________________________________________________________
> A A From: "doug351c" <[2]doug351c at gmail.com>
> A A To: "MikeLDrew" <[3]MikeLDrew at aol.com>
> A A Cc: "forum, Pantera" <[4]detomaso at poca.com>
> A A Sent: Monday, August 11, 2014 8:58:38 PM
> A A Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] 17-inch wheel back spacing
> A A Let me explain further.
> A A The 5.25" back spacing for the stock 8x15 should directly apply
> to the
> A A 8x17
> A A for the front. A Wheel diameter doesn't affect where the edges
> of the
> A A tire
> A A are for a given tire width and outer tire diameter. A For a
> stock bodied
> A A Pantera that has had its spacers removed, you can't go any
> crazier than
> A A a
> A A 245mm wide tire on the front and sometimes you have to drop
> back to 235
> A A or
> A A 225 depending on the particular car.
> A A At the rear, if you put 1/2 the additional 1" wider wheel width
> on each
> A A side
> A A of the wheel, all you'll get is a wider tire section width near
> the rim
> A A with
> A A the same section width at the crown of the tread. A For an 11"
> wheel vs
> A A the
> A A 10" Campy, a 5.75" back spacing achieves this because it is the
> stock
> A A 10"
> A A wide Campy's 5.25" backspace + 1/2 the additional wheel width.
> A The
> A A tire
> A A center remains at the same point on the car with either the
> stock 8x15
> A A Campy
> A A or the 8x17. A What could be a safer choice that this?
> A A Doug Braun
> A A -----Original Message-----
> A A From: Mike Drew [mailto:[5]MikeLDrew at aol.com]
> A A Sent: Monday, August 11, 2014 5:42 PM
> A A To: <[6]doug351c at gmail.com>
> A A Cc: POCA Forum Mailing List
> A A Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] 17-inch wheel back spacing
> A A Thanks Doug. But as I said, back spacing for different size
> wheels
> A A isn't
> A A really useful. I appreciate your effort nonetheless!
> A A Mike
> A A Sent from my iPhone
> A A On Aug 11, 2014, at 17:38, "doug351c" <[7]doug351c at gmail.com>
> wrote:
> A A > Mike,
> A A >
> A A > My records show the following stock Back Spacings (rim
> mounting face
> A A to
> A A > inner rim edge):
> A A >
> A A > Stock Campy, 7x15 4.25"
> A A > A A A A A A 8x15 5.25"
> A A > A A A A 10x15 5.25"
> A A >
> A A > I used 5.25" back spacing for both my front and rear 8x16"
> and 10x16"
> A A > Compomotive wheels.
> A A >
> A A > But for an 11" wide rim I can't tell you where to put the
> extra inch
> A A but
> A A > splitting the difference at 5.75" might be pretty close.
> A A >
> A A > Doug Braun
> A A >
> A A > -----Original Message-----
> A A > From: DeTomaso [mailto:[8]detomaso-bounces at poca.com]On Behalf
> Of Mike
> A A Drew
> A A > via DeTomaso
> A A > Sent: Monday, August 11, 2014 5:10 PM
> A A > To: [9]detomaso at poca.com
> A A > Subject: [DeTomaso] 17-inch wheel back spacing
> A A >
> A A >
> A A > Guys,
> A A >
> A A > Somebody has asked me what optimal back spacing would be for
> 17x8 and
> A A 17x11
> A A > wheels?
> A A >
> A A > Since back spacing varies with wheel width, the spacing of
> wheels
> A A with
> A A other
> A A > than these dimensions is irrelevant. If you know 17x8 and
> 17x11
> A A numbers
> A A > please let me know.
> A A >
> A A > Thanks!
> A A >
> A A > Mike
> A A >
> A A > Sent from my iPhone
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From: Boyd Casey <[1]boyd411 at gmail.com>
Date: Tue, Aug 12, 2014 at 9:10 AM
Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] 17-inch wheel back spacing
To: Robert Pink <[2]robpink2012 at gmail.com>
Cc: "[3]shawkins777 at comcast.net" <[4]shawkins777 at comcast.net>,
"[5]detomaso at poca.com" <[6]detomaso at poca.com>
IMHO the only way to be safe and sure is to measure the particular car
in question.
This link contains the directions I used.A Back space and off set.A
Some vendors will even send you a test wheel with the back space and
offset you provide.
True forged the people who made and sold me my wheels A were kind
enough to send an unfinished front and rear wheel made to the
measurements for back space and offset A that I provided.This way I was
able to test fitment before finalizing the order. They have my wheels
featured on their web page.
A [7]http://trueforgedwheels.com/#/content/pictures3/Pantera/A
A Customers cars / Pantera 2/2
Boyd
On Tue, Aug 12, 2014 at 8:33 AM, Robert Pink <[8]robpink2012 at gmail.com>
wrote:
A A Well if you have 17 inchA A front tire that is just a touch too
big and
A A you don't roll the front fender and you do a 720 degree spin on a
race
A A track. You get body work. Just saying .
A A Strongly suggest rolling the front fender if you go to 17 inch
front
A A wheels.
A A On Monday, August 11, 2014, <[1][9]shawkins777 at comcast.net> wrote:
A A A A A A But if overall diameter is increased it can change the
scrub
A A A radius.
A A A A A A Steve
A A A A A A
A A A A
__________________________________________________________________
A A A A A A From: "doug351c" <[2][10]doug351c at gmail.com>
A A A A A A To: "MikeLDrew" <[3][11]MikeLDrew at aol.com>
A A A A A A Cc: "forum, Pantera" <[4][12]detomaso at poca.com>
A A A A A A Sent: Monday, August 11, 2014 8:58:38 PM
A A A A A A Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] 17-inch wheel back spacing
A A A A A A Let me explain further.
A A A A A A The 5.25" back spacing for the stock 8x15 should directly
apply
A A A to the
A A A A A A 8x17
A A A A A A for the front. A Wheel diameter doesn't affect where the
edges
A A A of the
A A A A A A tire
A A A A A A are for a given tire width and outer tire diameter. A For
a
A A A stock bodied
A A A A A A Pantera that has had its spacers removed, you can't go
any
A A A crazier than
A A A A A A a
A A A A A A 245mm wide tire on the front and sometimes you have to
drop
A A A back to 235
A A A A A A or
A A A A A A 225 depending on the particular car.
A A A A A A At the rear, if you put 1/2 the additional 1" wider wheel
width
A A A on each
A A A A A A side
A A A A A A of the wheel, all you'll get is a wider tire section
width near
A A A the rim
A A A A A A with
A A A A A A the same section width at the crown of the tread. A For
an 11"
A A A wheel vs
A A A A A A the
A A A A A A 10" Campy, a 5.75" back spacing achieves this because it
is the
A A A stock
A A A A A A 10"
A A A A A A wide Campy's 5.25" backspace + 1/2 the additional wheel
width.
A A A A The
A A A A A A tire
A A A A A A center remains at the same point on the car with either
the
A A A stock 8x15
A A A A A A Campy
A A A A A A or the 8x17. A What could be a safer choice that this?
A A A A A A Doug Braun
A A A A A A -----Original Message-----
A A A A A A From: Mike Drew [mailto:[5][13]MikeLDrew at aol.com]
A A A A A A Sent: Monday, August 11, 2014 5:42 PM
A A A A A A To: <[6][14]doug351c at gmail.com>
A A A A A A Cc: POCA Forum Mailing List
A A A A A A Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] 17-inch wheel back spacing
A A A A A A Thanks Doug. But as I said, back spacing for different
size
A A A wheels
A A A A A A isn't
A A A A A A really useful. I appreciate your effort nonetheless!
A A A A A A Mike
A A A A A A Sent from my iPhone
A A A A A A On Aug 11, 2014, at 17:38, "doug351c"
<[7][15]doug351c at gmail.com>
A A A wrote:
A A A A A A > Mike,
A A A A A A >
A A A A A A > My records show the following stock Back Spacings (rim
A A A mounting face
A A A A A A to
A A A A A A > inner rim edge):
A A A A A A >
A A A A A A > Stock Campy, 7x15 4.25"
A A A A A A > A A A A A A A A A A A A 8x15 5.25"
A A A A A A > A A A A A A A 10x15 5.25"
A A A A A A >
A A A A A A > I used 5.25" back spacing for both my front and rear
8x16"
A A A and 10x16"
A A A A A A > Compomotive wheels.
A A A A A A >
A A A A A A > But for an 11" wide rim I can't tell you where to put
the
A A A extra inch
A A A A A A but
A A A A A A > splitting the difference at 5.75" might be pretty
close.
A A A A A A >
A A A A A A > Doug Braun
A A A A A A >
A A A A A A > -----Original Message-----
A A A A A A > From: DeTomaso
[mailto:[8][16]detomaso-bounces at poca.com]On Behalf
A A A Of Mike
A A A A A A Drew
A A A A A A > via DeTomaso
A A A A A A > Sent: Monday, August 11, 2014 5:10 PM
A A A A A A > To: [9][17]detomaso at poca.com
A A A A A A > Subject: [DeTomaso] 17-inch wheel back spacing
A A A A A A >
A A A A A A >
A A A A A A > Guys,
A A A A A A >
A A A A A A > Somebody has asked me what optimal back spacing would
be for
A A A 17x8 and
A A A A A A 17x11
A A A A A A > wheels?
A A A A A A >
A A A A A A > Since back spacing varies with wheel width, the spacing
of
A A A wheels
A A A A A A with
A A A A A A other
A A A A A A > than these dimensions is irrelevant. If you know 17x8
and
A A A 17x11
A A A A A A numbers
A A A A A A > please let me know.
A A A A A A >
A A A A A A > Thanks!
A A A A A A >
A A A A A A > Mike
A A A A A A >
A A A A A A > Sent from my iPhone
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