[DeTomaso] 17-inch wheel back spacing

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Mon Aug 11 23:40:28 EDT 2014


But if overall diameter is increased it can change the scrub radius. 

Steve 

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From: "doug351c" <doug351c at gmail.com> 
To: "MikeLDrew" <MikeLDrew at aol.com> 
Cc: "forum, Pantera" <detomaso at poca.com> 
Sent: Monday, August 11, 2014 8:58:38 PM 
Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] 17-inch wheel back spacing 

Let me explain further. 

The 5.25" back spacing for the stock 8x15 should directly apply to the 8x17 
for the front. Wheel diameter doesn't affect where the edges of the tire 
are for a given tire width and outer tire diameter. For a stock bodied 
Pantera that has had its spacers removed, you can't go any crazier than a 
245mm wide tire on the front and sometimes you have to drop back to 235 or 
225 depending on the particular car. 

At the rear, if you put 1/2 the additional 1" wider wheel width on each side 
of the wheel, all you'll get is a wider tire section width near the rim with 
the same section width at the crown of the tread. For an 11" wheel vs the 
10" Campy, a 5.75" back spacing achieves this because it is the stock 10" 
wide Campy's 5.25" backspace + 1/2 the additional wheel width. The tire 
center remains at the same point on the car with either the stock 8x15 Campy 
or the 8x17. What could be a safer choice that this? 

Doug Braun 

-----Original Message----- 
From: Mike Drew [mailto:MikeLDrew at aol.com] 
Sent: Monday, August 11, 2014 5:42 PM 
To: <doug351c at gmail.com> 
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Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] 17-inch wheel back spacing 


Thanks Doug. But as I said, back spacing for different size wheels isn't 
really useful. I appreciate your effort nonetheless! 

Mike 

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On Aug 11, 2014, at 17:38, "doug351c" <doug351c at gmail.com> wrote: 

> Mike, 
> 
> My records show the following stock Back Spacings (rim mounting face to 
> inner rim edge): 
> 
> Stock Campy, 7x15 4.25" 
> 8x15 5.25" 
> 10x15 5.25" 
> 
> I used 5.25" back spacing for both my front and rear 8x16" and 10x16" 
> Compomotive wheels. 
> 
> But for an 11" wide rim I can't tell you where to put the extra inch but 
> splitting the difference at 5.75" might be pretty close. 
> 
> Doug Braun 
> 
> -----Original Message----- 
> From: DeTomaso [mailto:detomaso-bounces at poca.com]On Behalf Of Mike Drew 
> via DeTomaso 
> Sent: Monday, August 11, 2014 5:10 PM 
> To: detomaso at poca.com 
> Subject: [DeTomaso] 17-inch wheel back spacing 
> 
> 
> Guys, 
> 
> Somebody has asked me what optimal back spacing would be for 17x8 and 
17x11 
> wheels? 
> 
> Since back spacing varies with wheel width, the spacing of wheels with 
other 
> than these dimensions is irrelevant. If you know 17x8 and 17x11 numbers 
> please let me know. 
> 
> Thanks! 
> 
> Mike 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone 
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   But if overall diameter is increased it can change the scrub radius.
   Steve
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   From: "doug351c" <doug351c at gmail.com>
   To: "MikeLDrew" <MikeLDrew at aol.com>
   Cc: "forum, Pantera" <detomaso at poca.com>
   Sent: Monday, August 11, 2014 8:58:38 PM
   Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] 17-inch wheel back spacing
   Let me explain further.
   The 5.25" back spacing for the stock 8x15 should directly apply to the
   8x17
   for the front.  Wheel diameter doesn't affect where the edges of the
   tire
   are for a given tire width and outer tire diameter.  For a stock bodied
   Pantera that has had its spacers removed, you can't go any crazier than
   a
   245mm wide tire on the front and sometimes you have to drop back to 235
   or
   225 depending on the particular car.
   At the rear, if you put 1/2 the additional 1" wider wheel width on each
   side
   of the wheel, all you'll get is a wider tire section width near the rim
   with
   the same section width at the crown of the tread.  For an 11" wheel vs
   the
   10" Campy, a 5.75" back spacing achieves this because it is the stock
   10"
   wide Campy's 5.25" backspace + 1/2 the additional wheel width.  The
   tire
   center remains at the same point on the car with either the stock 8x15
   Campy
   or the 8x17.  What could be a safer choice that this?
   Doug Braun
   -----Original Message-----
   From: Mike Drew [mailto:MikeLDrew at aol.com]
   Sent: Monday, August 11, 2014 5:42 PM
   To: <doug351c at gmail.com>
   Cc: POCA Forum Mailing List
   Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] 17-inch wheel back spacing
   Thanks Doug. But as I said, back spacing for different size wheels
   isn't
   really useful. I appreciate your effort nonetheless!
   Mike
   Sent from my iPhone
   On Aug 11, 2014, at 17:38, "doug351c" <doug351c at gmail.com> wrote:
   > Mike,
   >
   > My records show the following stock Back Spacings (rim mounting face
   to
   > inner rim edge):
   >
   > Stock Campy, 7x15 4.25"
   >             8x15 5.25"
   >        10x15 5.25"
   >
   > I used 5.25" back spacing for both my front and rear 8x16" and 10x16"
   > Compomotive wheels.
   >
   > But for an 11" wide rim I can't tell you where to put the extra inch
   but
   > splitting the difference at 5.75" might be pretty close.
   >
   > Doug Braun
   >
   > -----Original Message-----
   > From: DeTomaso [mailto:detomaso-bounces at poca.com]On Behalf Of Mike
   Drew
   > via DeTomaso
   > Sent: Monday, August 11, 2014 5:10 PM
   > To: detomaso at poca.com
   > Subject: [DeTomaso] 17-inch wheel back spacing
   >
   >
   > Guys,
   >
   > Somebody has asked me what optimal back spacing would be for 17x8 and
   17x11
   > wheels?
   >
   > Since back spacing varies with wheel width, the spacing of wheels
   with
   other
   > than these dimensions is irrelevant. If you know 17x8 and 17x11
   numbers
   > please let me know.
   >
   > Thanks!
   >
   > Mike
   >
   > Sent from my iPhone
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