[DeTomaso] CLUTCH MASTERS
Al Gisby
algisby at hotmail.com
Thu Apr 17 15:11:04 EDT 2014
Italians only drink Italian wine!! - french wine [if you can find it in Italy] would be used to wash the dogs a**e.Ciao for nowAl#1925
> Date: Thu, 17 Apr 2014 14:34:27 +0000
> From: cengles at cox.net
> To: larry at ohiotimecorp.com
> CC: detomaso at poca.com
> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] CLUTCH MASTERS
>
> Dear Irrepressible Larry,
>
>
>
> Ah! I should have known that your encyclopedic
> knowledge of the Tuscan automotive lifestyle would shine some light on
> the mystery of the "Welded Nuts". As always, your input is memorable.
> Perhaps the most difficult question about that fateful day is whether
> Lorenzo was hungover from an Italian or French red wine.
>
> Thanks!
>
>
>
> Warmest regards, Chuck Engles
>
>
> On Thu, Apr 17, 2014 at 9:21 AM, Larry - Ohio Time wrote:
>
> > Chuck,
> >
> > I think that was the day Lorenzo did not show up for work at the
> > factory. He
> > was a well know nut holder of the day.
> > Anthony just welded the nuts on that day. He then had one days welding
> > experience and was promoted to chief welder for the plant.
> >
> > And that's the rest of the story.
> >
> > Larry (holdem or weldem) - Cleveland
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: DeTomaso [mailto:detomaso-bounces at poca.com] On Behalf Of
> > cengles at cox.net
> > Sent: Thursday, April 17, 2014 8:35 AM
> > To: asajay at asajay.com
> > Cc: detomaso at poca.com
> > Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] CLUTCH MASTERS
> >
> >
> > Dear Asa,
> >
> >
> > Hmmm. You have an L model Pantera. What is the
> > VIN? I wonder if that is an Italian assembly line spontaneous
> > variation, a standard feature of the late model Pantera L or the
> > aftermath of a previous job. My Panteras are 7000 series VINs and I
> > hope that they have the welding.
> >
> >
> > Warmest regards, Chuck Engles
> >
> >
> > PS: how is the Innovate field testing going?
> >
> >
> >
> > On Wed, Apr 16, 2014 at 10:21 PM, Asa Jay Laughton wrote:
> >
> >> I believe on mine, when I went to install the wrench under the dash I
> >> found the nuts welded. One man job from the outside.
> >>
> >> Asa Jay
> >>
> >> Asa Jay Laughton, MSgt, USAFR, Retired
> >> & Shelley Marie
> >> Spokane, WA
> >> ****************************** http://www.racingagainstautism.com
> >> http://www.teampanteraracing.com
> >> http://facebook.com/racingagainstautism
> >>
> >>
> >> On 4/16/2014 7:32 PM, Charles Engles wrote:
> >>> Dear Boyd,
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> I do understand that it is a very unpleasant job. I
> >>> do have a Pantera reference from Scandanavia, IIRC, which shows a
> >>> modification that uses a hole saw to cut an access hole in the
> >>> passenger side of the box about three inches in diameter. From what
> >>> I understand, it permits sight and access to the dreaded
> >>> inaccessible dark recess behind the dash. I have not done this job
> >>> nor have I done this mod, but from what I think I know, it could
> >>> make the task a darn sight easier. The original author reported
> >>> that once the hole is made and used and the job is done, then it can
> >>> be plugged, tastefully, with a common commercially available plastic
> >>> plug. Perhaps someone has first hand experience with this trick?
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Clutch master cylinder rookie, Chuck Engles
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> -----Original Message-----
> >>> From: DeTomaso [mailto:detomaso-bounces at poca.com] On Behalf Of Boyd
> >>> Casey
> >>> Sent: Wednesday, April 16, 2014 9:18 PM
> >>> To: mike Drew
> >>> Cc: detomaso at poca.com; Bob Benson
> >>> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] CLUTCH MASTERS
> >>>
> >>> Changing a slave is no big deal , but I don't know how I would
> >>> change a clutch master on the side of the road, it's a two person
> >>> job ( one to hold a wrench under the dash and one the install the
> >>> master) and even then unless you have a dwarf with you getting
> >>> under the dash and attaching the push rod and getting access to the
> >>> bolts is a nightmare. If there is some "Trick" to installing the
> >>> clutch master I wish someone would share it with me!
> >>> Boyd
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> On Wed, Apr 16, 2014 at 7:49 PM, <MikeLDrew at aol.com> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> In a message dated 4/16/14 15 49 50, rcbsons1 at aol.com writes:
> >>>>
> >>>> New Pantera protocol is to carry a spare
> >>>> Clutch master and slave.. that is what I am
> >>>> doing now.. I have one of Rich's square ones
> >>>> because original makes no difference to me...
> >>>> need to remember to pack some brake fluid also
> >>>>
> >>>>>>> If, as he says, they need to be modified to fit, better modify
> >>>>>>> it
> >>>> now rather than when you're stuck on the side of the road! :>)
> >>>> Mike
> >>>>
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> >>>>
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Italians only drink Italian wine!! - french wine [if you can find it in
Italy] would be used to wash the dogs a**e.
Ciao for now
Al
#1925
> Date: Thu, 17 Apr 2014 14:34:27 +0000
> From: cengles at cox.net
> To: larry at ohiotimecorp.com
> CC: detomaso at poca.com
> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] CLUTCH MASTERS
>
> Dear Irrepressible Larry,
>
>
>
> Ah! I should have known that your encyclopedic
> knowledge of the Tuscan automotive lifestyle would shine some light
on
> the mystery of the "Welded Nuts". As always, your input is memorable.
> Perhaps the most difficult question about that fateful day is whether
> Lorenzo was hungover from an Italian or French red wine.
>
> Thanks!
>
>
>
> Warmest regards, Chuck Engles
>
>
> On Thu, Apr 17, 2014 at 9:21 AM, Larry - Ohio Time wrote:
>
> > Chuck,
> >
> > I think that was the day Lorenzo did not show up for work at the
> > factory. He
> > was a well know nut holder of the day.
> > Anthony just welded the nuts on that day. He then had one days
welding
> > experience and was promoted to chief welder for the plant.
> >
> > And that's the rest of the story.
> >
> > Larry (holdem or weldem) - Cleveland
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: DeTomaso [mailto:detomaso-bounces at poca.com] On Behalf Of
> > cengles at cox.net
> > Sent: Thursday, April 17, 2014 8:35 AM
> > To: asajay at asajay.com
> > Cc: detomaso at poca.com
> > Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] CLUTCH MASTERS
> >
> >
> > Dear Asa,
> >
> >
> > Hmmm. You have an L model Pantera. What is the
> > VIN? I wonder if that is an Italian assembly line spontaneous
> > variation, a standard feature of the late model Pantera L or the
> > aftermath of a previous job. My Panteras are 7000 series VINs and I
> > hope that they have the welding.
> >
> >
> > Warmest regards, Chuck Engles
> >
> >
> > PS: how is the Innovate field testing going?
> >
> >
> >
> > On Wed, Apr 16, 2014 at 10:21 PM, Asa Jay Laughton wrote:
> >
> >> I believe on mine, when I went to install the wrench under the
dash I
> >> found the nuts welded. One man job from the outside.
> >>
> >> Asa Jay
> >>
> >> Asa Jay Laughton, MSgt, USAFR, Retired
> >> & Shelley Marie
> >> Spokane, WA
> >> ****************************** http://www.racingagainstautism.com
> >> http://www.teampanteraracing.com
> >> http://facebook.com/racingagainstautism
> >>
> >>
> >> On 4/16/2014 7:32 PM, Charles Engles wrote:
> >>> Dear Boyd,
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> I do understand that it is a very unpleasant job. I
> >>> do have a Pantera reference from Scandanavia, IIRC, which shows a
> >>> modification that uses a hole saw to cut an access hole in the
> >>> passenger side of the box about three inches in diameter. From
what
> >>> I understand, it permits sight and access to the dreaded
> >>> inaccessible dark recess behind the dash. I have not done this
job
> >>> nor have I done this mod, but from what I think I know, it could
> >>> make the task a darn sight easier. The original author reported
> >>> that once the hole is made and used and the job is done, then it
can
> >>> be plugged, tastefully, with a common commercially available
plastic
> >>> plug. Perhaps someone has first hand experience with this trick?
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Clutch master cylinder rookie, Chuck Engles
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> -----Original Message-----
> >>> From: DeTomaso [mailto:detomaso-bounces at poca.com] On Behalf Of
Boyd
> >>> Casey
> >>> Sent: Wednesday, April 16, 2014 9:18 PM
> >>> To: mike Drew
> >>> Cc: detomaso at poca.com; Bob Benson
> >>> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] CLUTCH MASTERS
> >>>
> >>> Changing a slave is no big deal , but I don't know how I would
> >>> change a clutch master on the side of the road, it's a two person
> >>> job ( one to hold a wrench under the dash and one the install the
> >>> master) and even then unless you have a dwarf with you getting
> >>> under the dash and attaching the push rod and getting access to
the
> >>> bolts is a nightmare. If there is some "Trick" to installing the
> >>> clutch master I wish someone would share it with me!
> >>> Boyd
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> On Wed, Apr 16, 2014 at 7:49 PM, <MikeLDrew at aol.com> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> In a message dated 4/16/14 15 49 50, rcbsons1 at aol.com writes:
> >>>>
> >>>> New Pantera protocol is to carry a spare
> >>>> Clutch master and slave.. that is what I am
> >>>> doing now.. I have one of Rich's square ones
> >>>> because original makes no difference to me...
> >>>> need to remember to pack some brake fluid also
> >>>>
> >>>>>>> If, as he says, they need to be modified to fit, better
modify
> >>>>>>> it
> >>>> now rather than when you're stuck on the side of the road! :>)
> >>>> Mike
> >>>>
> >>>> _______________________________________________
> >>>>
> >>>> Detomaso Forum Managed by POCA
> >>>>
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> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>
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> >>>
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> >>>
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> >>> Checked by AVG - www.avg.com
> >>> Version: 10.0.1432 / Virus Database: 3722/6852 - Release Date:
> >>> 04/16/14
> >>>
> >>>
> >>
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