[DeTomaso] CLUTCH MASTERS

cengles at cox.net cengles at cox.net
Thu Apr 17 08:35:07 EDT 2014


  Dear Asa,


                  Hmmm.   You have an L model Pantera.  What is the VIN? 
I wonder if that is an Italian assembly line spontaneous variation, a 
standard feature of the late model Pantera L or the aftermath of a 
previous job.   My Panteras are 7000 series VINs and I hope that they 
have the welding.


                                    Warmest regards,  Chuck Engles


PS: how is the Innovate field testing going?



On Wed, Apr 16, 2014 at 10:21 PM, Asa Jay Laughton wrote:

> I believe on mine, when I went to install the wrench under the dash I
> found the nuts welded.  One man job from the outside.
>
> Asa  Jay
>
> Asa Jay Laughton, MSgt, USAFR, Retired
> & Shelley Marie
> Spokane, WA
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>
> On 4/16/2014 7:32 PM, Charles Engles wrote:
>> Dear Boyd,
>>
>>
>>              I do understand that it is a very unpleasant job.   I do 
>> have a Pantera reference from Scandanavia, IIRC, which shows a 
>> modification that uses a hole saw to cut an access hole in the 
>> passenger side of the box about three inches in diameter.  From what 
>> I understand, it permits sight and access to the dreaded inaccessible 
>> dark recess behind the dash.   I have not done this job nor have I 
>> done this mod, but from what I think I know, it could make the task a 
>> darn sight easier.   The original author reported that once the hole 
>> is made and used and the job is done, then it can be plugged, 
>> tastefully, with a common commercially available plastic plug. 
>> Perhaps someone has first hand experience with this trick?
>>
>>
>>                        Clutch master cylinder rookie,  Chuck Engles
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: DeTomaso [mailto:detomaso-bounces at poca.com] On Behalf Of Boyd 
>> Casey
>> Sent: Wednesday, April 16, 2014 9:18 PM
>> To: mike Drew
>> Cc: detomaso at poca.com; Bob Benson
>> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] CLUTCH MASTERS
>>
>> Changing a slave is no big deal , but I don't know how I would change 
>> a clutch master on the side of the road, it's a two person job ( one 
>> to hold a wrench under the dash and one the install the master) and 
>> even then unless you have  a dwarf with you getting under the dash 
>> and attaching the push rod and getting access to the bolts is a 
>> nightmare. If there is some "Trick" to installing the clutch master I 
>> wish someone would share it with me!
>> Boyd
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Apr 16, 2014 at 7:49 PM, <MikeLDrew at aol.com> wrote:
>>
>>>    In a message dated 4/16/14 15 49 50, rcbsons1 at aol.com writes:
>>>
>>>      New Pantera protocol is to carry a spare
>>>      Clutch master and slave.. that is what I am
>>>      doing now..  I have one of Rich's square ones
>>>      because original makes no difference to me...
>>>      need to remember to pack some brake fluid also
>>>
>>>>>> If, as he says, they need to be modified to fit, better modify it
>>>    now rather than when you're stuck on the side of the road! :>)
>>>    Mike
>>>
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    Dear Asa,

                    Hmmm.   You have an L model Pantera.  What is the
   VIN?   I wonder if that is an Italian assembly line spontaneous
   variation, a standard feature of the late model Pantera L or the
   aftermath of a previous job.   My Panteras are 7000 series VINs and I
   hope that they have the welding.

                                      Warmest regards,  Chuck Engles

   PS: how is the Innovate field testing going?

   On Wed, Apr 16, 2014 at 10:21 PM, Asa Jay Laughton wrote:

   > I believe on mine, when I went to install the wrench under the dash I

   > found the nuts welded.  One man job from the outside.

   >

   > Asa  Jay

   >

   > Asa Jay Laughton, MSgt, USAFR, Retired

   > & Shelley Marie

   > Spokane, WA

   > ******************************

   > http://www.racingagainstautism.com

   > http://www.teampanteraracing.com

   > http://facebook.com/racingagainstautism

   >

   >

   > On 4/16/2014 7:32 PM, Charles Engles wrote:

   > > Dear Boyd,

   > >

   > >

   > >              I do understand that it is a very unpleasant job.   I
   do have a Pantera reference from Scandanavia, IIRC, which shows a
   modification that uses a hole saw to cut an access hole in the
   passenger side of the box about three inches in diameter.  From what I
   understand, it permits sight and access to the dreaded inaccessible
   dark recess behind the dash.   I have not done this job nor have I done
   this mod, but from what I think I know, it could make the task a darn
   sight easier.   The original author reported that once the hole is made
   and used and the job is done, then it can be plugged, tastefully, with
   a common commercially available plastic plug.   Perhaps someone has
   first hand experience with this trick?

   > >

   > >

   > >                        Clutch master cylinder rookie,  Chuck Engles

   > >

   > >

   > >

   > >

   > >

   > > -----Original Message-----

   > > From: DeTomaso [mailto:detomaso-bounces at poca.com] On Behalf Of Boyd
   Casey

   > > Sent: Wednesday, April 16, 2014 9:18 PM

   > > To: mike Drew

   > > Cc: detomaso at poca.com; Bob Benson

   > > Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] CLUTCH MASTERS

   > >

   > > Changing a slave is no big deal , but I don't know how I would
   change a clutch master on the side of the road, it's a two person job (
   one to hold a wrench under the dash and one the install the master) and
   even then unless you have  a dwarf with you getting under the dash and
   attaching the push rod and getting access to the bolts is a nightmare.
   If there is some "Trick" to installing the clutch master I wish someone
   would share it with me!

   > > Boyd

   > >

   > >

   > > On Wed, Apr 16, 2014 at 7:49 PM, <MikeLDrew at aol.com> wrote:

   > >

   > >>    In a message dated 4/16/14 15 49 50, rcbsons1 at aol.com writes:

   > >>

   > >>      New Pantera protocol is to carry a spare

   > >>      Clutch master and slave.. that is what I am

   > >>      doing now..  I have one of Rich's square ones

   > >>      because original makes no difference to me...

   > >>      need to remember to pack some brake fluid also

   > >>

   > >>    >>>If, as he says, they need to be modified to fit, better
   modify it

   > >>    now rather than when you're stuck on the side of the road! :>)

   > >>    Mike

   > >>

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   > >>

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   > >>

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