[DeTomaso] Lime green project #2321 on E-bay
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Wed Apr 16 17:40:27 EDT 2014
I have often thought that removing the drip rails (at least the part extending down the a-pillars in front) would reduce wind noise in the car and reduce the coefficient of air-drag a little. Note that the worlds fastest SBF Pantera- All Bloomburg's Bonneville pushbutton that set records 10 years ago- ADDED taller rails to the roof to improve the stability of the machine above 200 mph.
If you drill out the pop-rivets that hold the stainless steel drip rails onto the roof, the first thing you notice is, the rails still don't come off easily. Reason is, the roof is a separate panel pinch-welded to the sides, and the joint is covered with windshield guck. The drip-rails are right next to the joint to sort of hide the raised welds. So to make the roof look decent again, you are faced with two 2-foot-long areas that need to be butt-welded and body-worked to smooth the results. Given the thin steel used up there, this is NOT a backyard job.
-----Original Message-----
From: Will Kooiman <will.kooiman at gmail.com>
To: John Taphorn <jtaphorn at kingwoodcable.com>
Cc: detomaso <detomaso at poca.com>
Sent: Wed, Apr 16, 2014 8:14 am
Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Lime green project #2321 on E-bay
I've seen them on epay for $1500 for the pair, but not very often.
It sounds like Hall is a good source, and that is assuming the buyer of the
green car wants to reinstall them.
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> On Apr 16, 2014, at 7:29 AM, John Taphorn <jtaphorn at kingwoodcable.com> wrote:
>
> At the Fun Rally last year, I was at a table with Steve Wilkinson and Don
Byers. They commented that Gary Hall routinely removed these drip rails from
cars brought to them for work. Steve opined that Beverly must have many of them
in inventory.
>
> He also stated that Gary routinely remove the heavier De Tomaso emblem-ed lug
nuts and replaced them with lighter units. He had seen buckets full of the
original lug nuts at his shop.
>
> JT
>> On 4/15/2014 10:55 PM, Will Kooiman wrote:
>> I removed mine to have them polished. Maybe he did the same.
>>
>> If he doesn't have the parts, I imagine it would be difficult and/or
>> expensive to find them.
>> --
>> Will
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>> On 4/15/14 10:43 PM, "dave londry" <davel at emspace.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> Well there's a bonus if you live near enough the ocean to have drifting
>>> spray or dry salt in the air.
>>> Anything that collects drift or morning mist rusts out PDQ.
>>> dave
>>>
>>>> On 15/04/2014 6:05 PM, Mike Thomas wrote:
>>>> Interesting that the drip rails have been removed. Any negative effects
>>>> from doing this? Actually looks a bit cleaner, if not original.
>>>>
>>>> Mike Thomas
>>>> VP, POCA
>>>> VP, Panteras Northwest
>>>> Yellow '74 #6328
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: DeTomaso [mailto:detomaso-bounces at poca.com] On Behalf Of
>>>> MikeLDrew at aol.com
>>>> Sent: Monday, April 14, 2014 10:14 AM
>>>> To: detomaso at POCA.com
>>>> Subject: [DeTomaso] Lime green project #2321 on E-bay
>>>>
>>>> Hi guys,
>>>>
>>>> Looks like a great way to get into a fully restored car--just tidy up
>>>> the
>>>> restoration yourself!
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> http://www.ebay.com/itm/Other-Makes-Pantera-Base-Coupe-2-Door-/2614520701
>>>> 45
>>>>
>>>> Mike
>>>>
>>>>
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I have often thought that removing the drip rails (at least the part
extending down the a-pillars in front) would reduce wind noise in the
car and reduce the coefficient of air-drag a little. Note that the
worlds fastest SBF Pantera- All Bloomburg's Bonneville pushbutton that
set records 10 years ago- ADDED taller rails to the roof to improve the
stability of the machine above 200 mph.
If you drill out the pop-rivets that hold the stainless steel drip
rails onto the roof, the first thing you notice is, the rails still
don't come off easily. Reason is, the roof is a separate panel
pinch-welded to the sides, and the joint is covered with windshield
guck. The drip-rails are right next to the joint to sort of hide the
raised welds. So to make the roof look decent again, you are faced with
two 2-foot-long areas that need to be butt-welded and body-worked to
smooth the results. Given the thin steel used up there, this is NOT a
backyard job.
-----Original Message-----
From: Will Kooiman <will.kooiman at gmail.com>
To: John Taphorn <jtaphorn at kingwoodcable.com>
Cc: detomaso <detomaso at poca.com>
Sent: Wed, Apr 16, 2014 8:14 am
Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Lime green project #2321 on E-bay
I've seen them on epay for $1500 for the pair, but not very often.
It sounds like Hall is a good source, and that is assuming the buyer of the
green car wants to reinstall them.
Sent from my iPhone
> On Apr 16, 2014, at 7:29 AM, John Taphorn <[1]jtaphorn at kingwoodcable.com> wrot
e:
>
> At the Fun Rally last year, I was at a table with Steve Wilkinson and Don
Byers. They commented that Gary Hall routinely removed these drip rails from
cars brought to them for work. Steve opined that Beverly must have many of them
in inventory.
>
> He also stated that Gary routinely remove the heavier De Tomaso emblem-ed lug
nuts and replaced them with lighter units. He had seen buckets full of the
original lug nuts at his shop.
>
> JT
>> On 4/15/2014 10:55 PM, Will Kooiman wrote:
>> I removed mine to have them polished. Maybe he did the same.
>>
>> If he doesn't have the parts, I imagine it would be difficult and/or
>> expensive to find them.
>> --
>> Will
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>> On 4/15/14 10:43 PM, "dave londry" <[2]davel at emspace.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> Well there's a bonus if you live near enough the ocean to have drifting
>>> spray or dry salt in the air.
>>> Anything that collects drift or morning mist rusts out PDQ.
>>> dave
>>>
>>>> On 15/04/2014 6:05 PM, Mike Thomas wrote:
>>>> Interesting that the drip rails have been removed. Any negative effects
>>>> from doing this? Actually looks a bit cleaner, if not original.
>>>>
>>>> Mike Thomas
>>>> VP, POCA
>>>> VP, Panteras Northwest
>>>> Yellow '74 #6328
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: DeTomaso [[3]mailto:detomaso-bounces at poca.com] On Behalf Of
>>>> [4]MikeLDrew at aol.com
>>>> Sent: Monday, April 14, 2014 10:14 AM
>>>> To: [5]detomaso at POCA.com
>>>> Subject: [DeTomaso] Lime green project #2321 on E-bay
>>>>
>>>> Hi guys,
>>>>
>>>> Looks like a great way to get into a fully restored car--just tidy up
>>>> the
>>>> restoration yourself!
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> [6]http://www.ebay.com/itm/Other-Makes-Pantera-Base-Coupe-2-Door-/261452070
1
>>>> 45
>>>>
>>>> Mike
>>>>
>>>>
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References
1. mailto:jtaphorn at kingwoodcable.com
2. mailto:davel at emspace.com
3. mailto:detomaso-bounces at poca.com?
4. mailto:MikeLDrew at aol.com
5. mailto:detomaso at POCA.com
6. http://www.ebay.com/itm/Other-Makes-Pantera-Base-Coupe-2-Door-/2614520701
7. mailto:DeTomaso at poca.com
8. http://poca.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso_poca.com
9. mailto:DeTomaso at poca.com
10. http://poca.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso_poca.com
11. mailto:DeTomaso at poca.com
12. http://poca.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso_poca.com
13. mailto:DeTomaso at poca.com
14. http://poca.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso_poca.com
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