[DeTomaso] Clutch master and slave cylinder

[Boyd Casey]

Thank you to everyone who replied, good info! much appreciated.
Boyd


On Tue, Apr 15, 2014 at 2:00 PM, richard boschert <theemonkey at yahoo.com>wrote:

> That Alfa clutch master's bolt pattern is a little too wide to safely use
> long term,but will work in a pinch.The problem is the bolt holes for
> mounting are threaded and need to be drilled out and the Pantera's bolt
> pattern was a little closer together so when you elongated the holes to
> fit, it was really close to the bore for the piston.I was worried that the
> lack of material after the elongating of the holes would cause it to
> eventually break the housing.
>
> A buddy of mine who imports parts for his Opel restoration business found
> a master from a Ferrari(not positive of the model,but might be a
> Mondial?)that had the correct mounting spacing.Still need to drill out the
> threads.It is also carried by Centric,made by LPR part # is 136.44897.This
> has the square reservoir.
>
> The round reservoir like the originals was made by ATE,also re-boxed by
> Centric,part # is 136.44356.It is discontinued,but i called pretty much
> every warehouse i could to find and modify for the Pantera.
>
> Both of these are/were made in Italy.
>
> I have one ATE,round reservoir master left.I am out of the LPR square
> reservoir masters.
>
> I have talked with Centric and they have ordered more masters ,but they
> could not give me a date as to when they will be available.
>
>
> The CNC master can be modified to fit.The CNC master has a wider mounting
> so you have to elongate the mounting holes.The clevis will have to be
> shortened as well.The outlet is at the front of the master and is  1/8 pipe
> thread so you will need to get a 90 degree fitting for that and you will
> need to cut and flare your copper clutch line to match.
>
>  Wilwood also makes a clutch master that will fit with some
> modification,but is better as it has a longer stroke.You will have to do
> the same modification to the mounting holes and clevis as the CNC,as well
> as the opening for the master needs to be enlarged,or do none of the
> modifications and get the adapter from Gary at Rc-tech?(the guy on this
> board with the awesome brown"Trans Am"Pantera,that he is making himself).I
> know Sacc Restorations has a Wilwood master kit,but i do not know if it has
> the adapter like Gary makes.
>
> Hugh,i will email you to see if you want the round master i still have.
>
> Richard
>
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   Thank you to everyone who replied, good info! much appreciated.
   Boyd

   On Tue, Apr 15, 2014 at 2:00 PM, richard boschert
   <[1]theemonkey at yahoo.com> wrote:

     That Alfa clutch master's bolt pattern is a little too wide to
     safely use long term,but will work in a pinch.The problem is the
     bolt holes for mounting are threaded and need to be drilled out and
     the Pantera's bolt pattern was a little closer together so when you
     elongated the holes to fit, it was really close to the bore for the
     piston.I was worried that the lack of material after the elongating
     of the holes would cause it to eventually break the housing.
     A buddy of mine who imports parts for his Opel restoration business
     found a master from a Ferrari(not positive of the model,but might be
     a Mondial?)that had the correct mounting spacing.Still need to drill
     out the threads.It is also carried by Centric,made by LPR part # is
     136.44897.This has the square reservoir.
     The round reservoir like the originals was made by ATE,also re-boxed
     by Centric,part # is [2]136.44356.It is discontinued,but i called
     pretty much every warehouse i could to find and modify for the
     Pantera.
     Both of these are/were made in Italy.
     I have one ATE,round reservoir master left.I am out of the LPR
     square reservoir masters.
     I have talked with Centric and they have ordered more masters ,but
     they could not give me a date as to when they will be available.
     The CNC master can be modified to fit.The CNC master has a wider
     mounting so you have to elongate the mounting holes.The clevis will
     have to be shortened as well.The outlet is at the front of the
     master and is A 1/8 pipe thread so you will need to get a 90 degree
     fitting for that and you will need to cut and flare your copper
     clutch line to match.
     A Wilwood also makes a clutch master that will fit with some
     modification,but is better as it has a longer stroke.You will have
     to do the same modification to the mounting holes and clevis as the
     CNC,as well as the opening for the master needs to be enlarged,or do
     none of the modifications and get the adapter from Gary at
     Rc-tech?(the guy on this board with the awesome brown"Trans
     Am"Pantera,that he is making himself).I know Sacc Restorations has a
     Wilwood master kit,but i do not know if it has the adapter like Gary
     makes.
     Hugh,i will email you to see if you want the round master i still
     have.
     Richard

References

   1. mailto:theemonkey at yahoo.com
   2. http://136.44356.It/