[DeTomaso] ZF gear oil
Don Thomas
don.thomas.ieee at gmail.com
Sat Apr 12 19:56:08 EDT 2014
I had Lloyd strip down the painted case; which essentially was an acid dip;
and that disintegrated the bushings. The linkage was extremely sloppy,
and found out that we needed to replace the bushings.
Cheers !
On Sat, Apr 12, 2014 at 4:28 PM, bflesland at gmail.com <bflesland at gmail.com>wrote:
> Hi Don,
> You say you had Lloyd replace those bushings.
> And then you say you have had no problems using GL4 and never had any
> problems.
> Why did you replace the brass bushings if you had zero problems?
> Just wondering!
> Makes no sense IMO.
> Cheers Bjoern
>
>
> > Den 12. apr. 2014 kl. 21:46 skrev Don Thomas <don.thomas.ieee at gmail.com
> >:
> >
> > "And there is no "yellow metal" in our ZF:s, right?"
> > Well... actually there is... in the shifting linkage which has brass
> > bushings... I just recently had Lloyd replace those.
> > UThe brass bushings are not listed in the standard over the counter ZF
> > repair manual / parts catalog.
> > To add my 2 cents... I use GL-4 Amsoil. I still have 3 gallons of that
> > stuff. Never had any problems.
> > Cheers !
> > On Sat, Apr 12, 2014 at 10:12 AM, Pantdino <[1]pantdino at aol.com> wrote:
> >
> > Thomas,
> >
> > "And there is no "yellow metal" in our ZF:s, right?"
> >
> > I think that is not correct. "Yellow metal" refers to brass,
> > which is
> > what synchros are made of or at least what they were made of back
> > in
> > the day.
> > I read somewhere that GL5 oils coat the metal better than GL4s,
> > but the
> > problem is that the coating is so adherent that when it comes off
> > it
> > can tear off a few molecules of the metal. Over time this can
> > result in
> > gear wear.
> > My Abarth guru recommends Red Line MT-90 for my Fiat transaxle.
> > It is
> > a 75W90 GL4 oil that is recommended for gearboxes and FRONT-WHEEL
> > DRIVE
> > transaxles but not rear wheel drive diffs.
> > Unfortunately I don't know enough about transaxles to know why
> > GL4 oil
> > is best for a Fiat transaxle but wouldn't be good for a ZF or
> > Ferrari
> > unit. Or maybe it would be??
> > Jim Oddie
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Thomas Tornblom <[2]thomas at hax.se>
> > To: detomaso <[3]detomaso at poca.com>
> > Sent: Fri, Apr 11, 2014 11:44 pm
> > Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] ZF gear oil
> >
> > Pantdino skrev 2014-04-12 08:14:
> >> I think Mike misspoke / miswrote
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Most gear oil is GL5 and it is GL4 that is hard to find
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> But the best oil for the ZF is Red Line 75W90NS--- the NS
> > signifying
> >> "not so slippery" I presume.
> >>
> >> ANY oil that says it is OK to use in a limited slip diff will be
> > TOO
> >> slippery for proper synchro function and will predispose to early
> >> synchro wear.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> GL4 oil is better for "yellow metal" gears but this is a fairly
> > minor
> >> consideration in comparison to better lubrication for the diff
> > portion
> >> of the ZF provided by the GL5 Red Line 75W90NS
> > And there is no "yellow metal" in our ZF:s, right? So GL5 would be
> > appropriate, just as the owners manual says.
> >
> > That said, I have always used Shell GetriebeAP:l, which is a fully
> >
> > synthetic GL4, but will now switch to some GL5. Might even try this RL
> > oil. :)
> > Thomas
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> At least this was the conclusion reached by the ferrarichat group
> > for
> >> use in "brand F" transaxles.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Jim Oddie
> >>
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >
> >> From: Corey Price <[1][4]coreyjprice at gmail.com>
> >> To: MikeLDrew <[2][5]MikeLDrew at aol.com>
> >> Cc: De Tomaso List <[3][6]detomaso at poca.com>
> >> Sent: Fri, Apr 11, 2014 9:03 pm
> >> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] ZF gear oil
> >> Mike,
> >>
> >> I thought GL-4 was the recommended oil, per Lloyd's website "FAQ"
> > section.
> > Did
> >> I miss something?
> >>
> >> Corey
> >
> >>> On Apr 11, 2014, at 9:41 PM, [1][4][7]MikeLDrew at aol.com wrote:
> >
> >>>
> >>> In a message dated 4/11/14 12 32 13, [2][5][8]cwhamm at frontier.com
> > writes:
> >>>
> >>> Also what is the best gear oil for
> >>> my ZF transaxle?
> >>>
> >>>>>> This is a very important question. I think there is a tendancy
> >>> among many people to just grab any old gear oil and throw it in
> > there,
> >>> but the nature of a transaxle demands that one pays very close
> >>> attention to the manufacturer's recommendations. All gear oils
> > are NOT
> >>> created equal!
> >>> In this case, the first thing to do is RTFM.
> >>> The manual specifically calls for SAE 80, AP GL5
> >>> (SAE 90 in Europe).
> >>> 7 1/2 pints of the stuff.
> >>> While it is very easy to find SAE 80-90 gear oil, it is
> > surprisingly
> >>> difficult to find *GL5* gear oil, and that's the important part.
> > GL5
> >>> oil has specific characteristics designed to work with the types
> > of
> >>> synchros that our gearboxes have, which are different from most
> > other
> >>> gearboxes, and definitely different from a typical
> > differential/rear
> >>> axle.
> >>> If you go to most auto parts stores, there will be lots of gear
> > oil on
> >>> the shelf but none of it will be GL5. The only place I have
> > reliably
> >>> found GL5 is NAPA auto parts; it is made by Sta-Lube/CRC.
> >>> Here is the exact link to what you should buy:
> >
> > [3][6][9]http://www.crcindustries.com/ei/product_detail.aspx?id=SL24
> > 73
> >
> >>> It is normally sold in pints or gallons; since you need 7.5 pints
> > and
> >>> there are 8 pints in a gallon, obviously it is to your advantage
> > to buy
> >>> a gallon jug. My local NAPA store used to carry them, but I just
> > had
> >>> to order a jug a couple of weeks ago as they only have pints now.
> >>> While you're at it, you might as well buy a gear oil pump, also
> > by
> >>> Sta-Lube:
> >
> > [4][7][10]http://www.crcindustries.com/ei/product_detail.aspx?id=SL4
> > 344
> >
> >>> Harbor Freight has a better picture of it:
> >
> > [5][8][11]http://www.harborfreight.com/sta-lube-gear-fluid-oil-pump-
> > 40714.html
> >
> >>> Using this pump has transformed my life. Normally filling a ZF
> > gearbox
> >>> is a painful experience involving a lot of spilled gear oil and
> >>> profanity. This turns it into a breeze. Just put the end of the
> > hose
> >>> in the side of the gearbox (where it's cleverly retained), and
> > start
> >>> pumping until you feel silly. When oil starts drooling out the
> > side,
> >>> you're done. Let it sit for a few minutes, give a few more pumps
> > just
> >>> to be sure, then you're really done.
> >>> Mike (going to change my gearbox oil tomorrow as a matter of
> > fact....)
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> >> 1. [13]mailto:[16]MikeLDrew at aol.com
> >> 2. [14]mailto:[17]cwhamm at frontier.com
> >> 3.
> > [15][18]http://www.crcindustries.com/ei/product_detail.aspx?id=SL247
> > 3
> >> 4.
> > [16][19]http://www.crcindustries.com/ei/product_detail.aspx?id=SL434
> > 4
> >> 5.
> > [17][20]http://www.harborfreight.com/sta-lube-gear-fluid-oil-pump-40
> > 714.htm
> > l
> >> 6. [18]mailto:[21]DeTomaso at poca.com
> >> 7. [19][22]http://poca.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso_poca.com
> >> 8. [20]mailto:[23]DeTomaso at poca.com
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> > 1. mailto:[32]coreyjprice at gmail.com
> > 2. mailto:[33]MikeLDrew at aol.com
> > 3. mailto:[34]detomaso at poca.com
> > 4. mailto:[35]MikeLDrew at aol.com
> > 5. mailto:[36]cwhamm at frontier.com
> > 6.
> > [37]http://www.crcindustries.com/ei/product_detail.aspx?id=SL2473
> > 7.
> > [38]http://www.crcindustries.com/ei/product_detail.aspx?id=SL4344
> > 8.
> > [39]http://www.harborfreight.com/sta-lube-gear-fluid-oil-pump-40714.
> > html
> > 9. mailto:[40]DeTomaso at poca.com
> > 10. [41]http://poca.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso_poca.com
> > 11. mailto:[42]DeTomaso at poca.com
> > 12. [43]http://poca.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso_poca.com
> > 13. mailto:[44]MikeLDrew at aol.com?
> > 14. mailto:[45]cwhamm at frontier.com?
> > 15.
> > [46]http://www.crcindustries.com/ei/product_detail.aspx?id=SL2473
> > 16.
> > [47]http://www.crcindustries.com/ei/product_detail.aspx?id=SL4344
> > 17.
> > [48]http://www.harborfreight.com/sta-lube-gear-fluid-oil-pump-40714.
> > html
> > 18. mailto:[49]DeTomaso at poca.com?
> > 19. [50]http://poca.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso_poca.com
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> > 21. [52]http://poca.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso_poca.com
> > 22. mailto:[53]DeTomaso at poca.com
> > 23. [54]http://poca.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso_poca.com
> > 24. mailto:[55]thomas at hax.se
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> > 2. mailto:thomas at hax.se
> > 3. mailto:detomaso at poca.com
> > 4. mailto:coreyjprice at gmail.com
> > 5. mailto:MikeLDrew at aol.com
> > 6. mailto:detomaso at poca.com
> > 7. mailto:MikeLDrew at aol.com
> > 8. mailto:cwhamm at frontier.com
> > 9. http://www.crcindustries.com/ei/product_detail.aspx?id=SL2473
> > 10. http://www.crcindustries.com/ei/product_detail.aspx?id=SL4344
> > 11. http://www.harborfreight.com/sta-lube-gear-fluid-oil-pump-40714.html
> > 12. mailto:DeTomaso at poca.com
> > 13. http://poca.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso_poca.com
> > 14. mailto:DeTomaso at poca.com
> > 15. http://poca.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso_poca.com
> > 16. mailto:MikeLDrew at aol.com
> > 17. mailto:cwhamm at frontier.com
> > 18. http://www.crcindustries.com/ei/product_detail.aspx?id=SL2473
> > 19. http://www.crcindustries.com/ei/product_detail.aspx?id=SL4344
> > 20. http://www.harborfreight.com/sta-lube-gear-fluid-oil-pump-40714.htm
> > 21. mailto:DeTomaso at poca.com
> > 22. http://poca.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso_poca.com
> > 23. mailto:DeTomaso at poca.com
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> > 26. http://poca.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso_poca.com
> > 27. mailto:thomas at hax.se
> > 28. tel:%2B46%2018%2032%2031%2018
> > 29. tel:%2B46%2076%20209%208320
> > 30. mailto:DeTomaso at poca.com
> > 31. http://poca.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso_poca.com
> > 32. mailto:coreyjprice at gmail.com
> > 33. mailto:MikeLDrew at aol.com
> > 34. mailto:detomaso at poca.com
> > 35. mailto:MikeLDrew at aol.com
> > 36. mailto:cwhamm at frontier.com
> > 37. http://www.crcindustries.com/ei/product_detail.aspx?id=SL2473
> > 38. http://www.crcindustries.com/ei/product_detail.aspx?id=SL4344
> > 39. http://www.harborfreight.com/sta-lube-gear-fluid-oil-pump-40714.html
> > 40. mailto:DeTomaso at poca.com
> > 41. http://poca.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso_poca.com
> > 42. mailto:DeTomaso at poca.com
> > 43. http://poca.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso_poca.com
> > 44. mailto:MikeLDrew at aol.com
> > 45. mailto:cwhamm at frontier.com
> > 46. http://www.crcindustries.com/ei/product_detail.aspx?id=SL2473
> > 47. http://www.crcindustries.com/ei/product_detail.aspx?id=SL4344
> > 48. http://www.harborfreight.com/sta-lube-gear-fluid-oil-pump-40714.html
> > 49. mailto:DeTomaso at poca.com
> > 50. http://poca.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso_poca.com
> > 51. mailto:DeTomaso at poca.com
> > 52. http://poca.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso_poca.com
> > 53. mailto:DeTomaso at poca.com
> > 54. http://poca.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso_poca.com
> > 55. mailto:thomas at hax.se
> > 56. mailto:DeTomaso at poca.com
> > 57. http://poca.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso_poca.com
> > 58. mailto:DeTomaso at poca.com
> > 59. http://poca.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso_poca.com
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I had Lloyd strip down the painted case; which essentially was an acid
dip; and that disintegrated the bushings. The linkage was extremely
sloppy, and found out that we needed to replace the bushings.
Cheers !
On Sat, Apr 12, 2014 at 4:28 PM, [1]bflesland at gmail.com
<[2]bflesland at gmail.com> wrote:
Hi Don,
You say you had Lloyd replace those bushings.
And then you say you have had no problems using GL4 and never had
any problems.
Why did you replace the brass bushings if you had zero problems?
Just wondering!
Makes no sense IMO.
Cheers Bjoern
> Den 12. apr. 2014 kl. 21:46 skrev Don Thomas
<[3]don.thomas.ieee at gmail.com>:
>
> "And there is no "yellow metal" in our ZF:s, right?"
> Well... actually there is... in the shifting linkage which has brass
> bushings... I just recently had Lloyd replace those.
> UThe brass bushings are not listed in the standard over the
counter ZF
> repair manual / parts catalog.
> To add my 2 cents... I use GL-4 Amsoil. I still have 3 gallons of
that
> stuff. Never had any problems.
> Cheers !
> On Sat, Apr 12, 2014 at 10:12 AM, Pantdino <[1][4]pantdino at aol.com>
wrote:
>
> Thomas,
>
> "And there is no "yellow metal" in our ZF:s, right?"
>
> I think that is not correct. "Yellow metal" refers to brass,
> which is
> what synchros are made of or at least what they were made of
back
> in
> the day.
> I read somewhere that GL5 oils coat the metal better than GL4s,
> but the
> problem is that the coating is so adherent that when it comes
off
> it
> can tear off a few molecules of the metal. Over time this can
> result in
> gear wear.
> My Abarth guru recommends Red Line MT-90 for my Fiat transaxle.
> It is
> a 75W90 GL4 oil that is recommended for gearboxes and
FRONT-WHEEL
> DRIVE
> transaxles but not rear wheel drive diffs.
> Unfortunately I don't know enough about transaxles to know why
> GL4 oil
> is best for a Fiat transaxle but wouldn't be good for a ZF or
> Ferrari
> unit. Or maybe it would be??
> Jim Oddie
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Thomas Tornblom <[2][5]thomas at hax.se>
> To: detomaso <[3][6]detomaso at poca.com>
> Sent: Fri, Apr 11, 2014 11:44 pm
> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] ZF gear oil
>
> Pantdino skrev 2014-04-12 08:14:
>> I think Mike misspoke / miswrote
>>
>>
>>
>> Most gear oil is GL5 and it is GL4 that is hard to find
>>
>>
>>
>> But the best oil for the ZF is Red Line 75W90NS--- the NS
> signifying
>> "not so slippery" I presume.
>>
>> ANY oil that says it is OK to use in a limited slip diff will be
> TOO
>> slippery for proper synchro function and will predispose to early
>> synchro wear.
>>
>>
>>
>> GL4 oil is better for "yellow metal" gears but this is a fairly
> minor
>> consideration in comparison to better lubrication for the diff
> portion
>> of the ZF provided by the GL5 Red Line 75W90NS
> And there is no "yellow metal" in our ZF:s, right? So GL5 would be
> appropriate, just as the owners manual says.
>
> That said, I have always used Shell GetriebeAP:l, which is a fully
>
> synthetic GL4, but will now switch to some GL5. Might even try this
RL
> oil. :)
> Thomas
>>
>>
>>
>> At least this was the conclusion reached by the ferrarichat group
> for
>> use in "brand F" transaxles.
>>
>>
>>
>> Jim Oddie
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>
>> From: Corey Price <[1][4][7]coreyjprice at gmail.com>
>> To: MikeLDrew <[2][5][8]MikeLDrew at aol.com>
>> Cc: De Tomaso List <[3][6][9]detomaso at poca.com>
>> Sent: Fri, Apr 11, 2014 9:03 pm
>> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] ZF gear oil
>> Mike,
>>
>> I thought GL-4 was the recommended oil, per Lloyd's website "FAQ"
> section.
> Did
>> I miss something?
>>
>> Corey
>
>>> On Apr 11, 2014, at 9:41 PM, [1][4][7][10]MikeLDrew at aol.com
wrote:
>
>>>
>>> In a message dated 4/11/14 12 32 13,
[2][5][8][11]cwhamm at frontier.com
> writes:
>>>
>>> Also what is the best gear oil for
>>> my ZF transaxle?
>>>
>>>>>> This is a very important question. I think there is a tendancy
>>> among many people to just grab any old gear oil and throw it in
> there,
>>> but the nature of a transaxle demands that one pays very close
>>> attention to the manufacturer's recommendations. All gear oils
> are NOT
>>> created equal!
>>> In this case, the first thing to do is RTFM.
>>> The manual specifically calls for SAE 80, AP GL5
>>> (SAE 90 in Europe).
>>> 7 1/2 pints of the stuff.
>>> While it is very easy to find SAE 80-90 gear oil, it is
> surprisingly
>>> difficult to find *GL5* gear oil, and that's the important part.
> GL5
>>> oil has specific characteristics designed to work with the types
> of
>>> synchros that our gearboxes have, which are different from most
> other
>>> gearboxes, and definitely different from a typical
> differential/rear
>>> axle.
>>> If you go to most auto parts stores, there will be lots of gear
> oil on
>>> the shelf but none of it will be GL5. The only place I have
> reliably
>>> found GL5 is NAPA auto parts; it is made by Sta-Lube/CRC.
>>> Here is the exact link to what you should buy:
>
>
[3][6][9][12]http://www.crcindustries.com/ei/product_detail.aspx?id=
SL24
> 73
>
>>> It is normally sold in pints or gallons; since you need 7.5 pints
> and
>>> there are 8 pints in a gallon, obviously it is to your advantage
> to buy
>>> a gallon jug. My local NAPA store used to carry them, but I just
> had
>>> to order a jug a couple of weeks ago as they only have pints now.
>>> While you're at it, you might as well buy a gear oil pump, also
> by
>>> Sta-Lube:
>
>
[4][7][10][13]http://www.crcindustries.com/ei/product_detail.aspx?id
=SL4
> 344
>
>>> Harbor Freight has a better picture of it:
>
>
[5][8][11][14]http://www.harborfreight.com/sta-lube-gear-fluid-oil-p
ump-
> 40714.html
>
>>> Using this pump has transformed my life. Normally filling a ZF
> gearbox
>>> is a painful experience involving a lot of spilled gear oil and
>>> profanity. This turns it into a breeze. Just put the end of the
> hose
>>> in the side of the gearbox (where it's cleverly retained), and
> start
>>> pumping until you feel silly. When oil starts drooling out the
> side,
>>> you're done. Let it sit for a few minutes, give a few more pumps
> just
>>> to be sure, then you're really done.
>>> Mike (going to change my gearbox oil tomorrow as a matter of
> fact....)
>>> _______________________________________________
>>>
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>> References
>>
>> 1. [13]mailto:[16][19]MikeLDrew at aol.com
>> 2. [14]mailto:[17][20]cwhamm at frontier.com
>> 3.
>
[15][18][21]http://www.crcindustries.com/ei/product_detail.aspx?id=S
L247
> 3
>> 4.
>
[16][19][22]http://www.crcindustries.com/ei/product_detail.aspx?id=S
L434
> 4
>> 5.
>
[17][20][23]http://www.harborfreight.com/sta-lube-gear-fluid-oil-pum
p-40
> 714.htm
> l
>> 6. [18]mailto:[21][24]DeTomaso at poca.com
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