[DeTomaso] Wanted - scientific car wax results

Mon Apr 7 13:49:39 EDT 2014

Thanks all for the replies. One thing that several people mentioned that I
forgot to include is that I am happy with the meguir's product, but I was
wondering if there have been improvements in the past 20-25 years since the
study was done. 

Based on the replies, I think some Nu-Finish is in my future. 

Thanks for the help!

From: chelinial at gmail.com [mailto:chelinial at gmail.com] On Behalf Of Al
Chelini
Sent: lunes, 7 de abril de 2014 2:43
To: Charles McCall
Cc: Multiple recipients of list detomaso
Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Wanted - scientific car wax results

Hi, Charles and group,  [I hope this chart transmits well]

The latest report on the top 3 liquid waxes from Consumer's Reports goes:

LIQUID   WAX

cost 

per container

overall

score

price

per oz.

durability

Meguiar's NXT Generation Tech Wax 2.0 G12718

<http://www.consumerreports.org/cro/cars/tires-auto-parts/car-wax/car-wax-ra
tings/models/overview/meguiars-nxt-generation-tech-wax-2-0-g12718-99031516.h
tm> 

$18

69

$1.00

poor

Nu Finish NF-76  see here
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a CR "best buy"

$8

68

$0.50

very

good

Meguiar's Gold Class Carnauba Plus G7016

$13

68

$0.81

poor

The best overall paste wax is ....yup ...
Nu Finish
with an overall score of 71

No, I don't have any financial interest in any wax product, other than the
bottles on my shelf.

Now ordering engine parts to hopefully make next month's POCA Rally.

Regards, Al C.

On Sun, Apr 6, 2014 at 11:04 AM, Charles McCall <charlesmccall at gmail.com>
wrote:

   Hi all

   What now seems like a billion years ago, but was probably 20-25 years
   ago, Consumer Reports did a full and impartial test of car waxes.

   They bought a dozen varieties and followed the instructions. The
   results were classified based on categories such as "durability after
   30 trips through the car wash", "ease of application/removal", "gloss
   to the untrained eye", "amount of powder produced" and I forget what
   else. The winner was some exotic was that cost $80 a bottle, while the
   second place wax, which was a mere 1 point behind, was a Meguir's
   product that I have faithfully used for the past 20 years as a result
   of that study.

   It is easy to apply, it is easy to remove. It doesn't leave powder
   everywhere. It leaves a nice shine and leaves the paint extremely
   slippery. I don't have to apply it very often, as water beads up
   heavily for quite some time after application. I have happily used the
   product for years, confident that it is the best bang for the buck,
   based on an impartial and scientific study. For me, this adds more
   value that anecdotal evidence such as someone saying "I use wax X and
   it works well". Unless you compare X to Y under the same conditions,
   how can you not know if Y works even better?

   Anyway, over here in Spain I've run out of my favorite Meguirs. So I
   used a 100% Carnuba that I got for Christmas on the daily driver BMW,
   and am horrified. It's the same brand that Johnny Woods uses on his
   Pantera (and actually sells) so if you've ever seen his car then you
   know that it makes things shiny. But it is a huuuuuge pain to remove.
   It requires a tremendous amount of force and scrubbing millimeter by
   millimeter to get the stuff off. I have wax powder everywhere - all the
   seams, it seems like the whole car is covered in a fine powder. I'd
   guess it took at least 3-4 times longer than the Meguir's due to the
   difficulty of removal - you really need to scrub hard to get the stuff
   off.

   All that time trying to get the damn stuff off made it clear to me that
   I need to buy more wax. But if I want to buy the best possible miracle
   wax, is anyone aware of a study where they compare the various brands
   back-to-back to determine which one is really the "best"? The study I
   saw recommended some products if your goal was Pebble Beach as the
   product worked well but lasted 24 hours, other products if you planned
   to wax the car once in its lifetime, and another for "regular" waxing
   every few months. By rating the various characteristics - durability,
   ease of application, price, ease of removal, gloss, whatever, you could
   pick the best product for your use.

   Anyone still subscribe to Consumer Reports? Anyone know of another
   impartial study? Thanks!

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   Thanks all for the replies. One thing that several people mentioned
   that I forgot to include is that I am happy with the meguir's product,
   but I was wondering if there have been improvements in the past 20-25
   years since the study was done.

   Based on the replies, I think some Nu-Finish is in my future.

   Thanks for the help!

   From: chelinial at gmail.com [mailto:chelinial at gmail.com] On Behalf Of Al
   Chelini
   Sent: lunes, 7 de abril de 2014 2:43
   To: Charles McCall
   Cc: Multiple recipients of list detomaso
   Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Wanted - scientific car wax results

   Hi, Charles and group,  [I hope this chart transmits well]

   The latest report on the top 3 liquid waxes from Consumer's Reports
   goes:

   LIQUID   WAX

   cost

   per container

   overall

   score

   price

   per oz.

   durability

   Meguiar's NXT Generation Tech Wax 2.0 G12718

   $18

   69

   $1.00

   poor

   Nu Finish NF-76 see here

   a CR "best buy"

   $8

   68

   $0.50

   very

   good

   Meguiar's Gold Class Carnauba Plus G7016

   $13

   68

   $0.81

   poor

   The best overall paste wax is ....yup .....
   Nu Finish
   with an overall score of 71

   No, I don't have any financial interest in any wax product, other than
   the bottles on my shelf.

   Now ordering engine parts to hopefully make next month's POCA Rally.

   Regards, Al C.

   On Sun, Apr 6, 2014 at 11:04 AM, Charles McCall
   <[1]charlesmccall at gmail.com> wrote:

      Hi all
      What now seems like a billion years ago, but was probably 20-25
   years
      ago, Consumer Reports did a full and impartial test of car waxes.
      They bought a dozen varieties and followed the instructions. The
      results were classified based on categories such as "durability
   after
      30 trips through the car wash", "ease of application/removal",
   "gloss
      to the untrained eye", "amount of powder produced" and I forget what
      else. The winner was some exotic was that cost $80 a bottle, while
   the
      second place wax, which was a mere 1 point behind, was a Meguir's
      product that I have faithfully used for the past 20 years as a
   result
      of that study.
      It is easy to apply, it is easy to remove. It doesn't leave powder
      everywhere. It leaves a nice shine and leaves the paint extremely
      slippery. I don't have to apply it very often, as water beads up
      heavily for quite some time after application. I have happily used
   the
      product for years, confident that it is the best bang for the buck,
      based on an impartial and scientific study. For me, this adds more
      value that anecdotal evidence such as someone saying "I use wax X
   and
      it works well". Unless you compare X to Y under the same conditions,
      how can you not know if Y works even better?
      Anyway, over here in Spain I've run out of my favorite Meguirs. So I
      used a 100% Carnuba that I got for Christmas on the daily driver
   BMW,
      and am horrified. It's the same brand that Johnny Woods uses on his
      Pantera (and actually sells) so if you've ever seen his car then you
      know that it makes things shiny. But it is a huuuuuge pain to
   remove.
      It requires a tremendous amount of force and scrubbing millimeter by
      millimeter to get the stuff off. I have wax powder everywhere - all
   the
      seams, it seems like the whole car is covered in a fine powder. I'd
      guess it took at least 3-4 times longer than the Meguir's due to the
      difficulty of removal - you really need to scrub hard to get the
   stuff
      off.
      All that time trying to get the damn stuff off made it clear to me
   that
      I need to buy more wax. But if I want to buy the best possible
   miracle
      wax, is anyone aware of a study where they compare the various
   brands
      back-to-back to determine which one is really the "best"? The study
   I
      saw recommended some products if your goal was Pebble Beach as the
      product worked well but lasted 24 hours, other products if you
   planned
      to wax the car once in its lifetime, and another for "regular"
   waxing
      every few months. By rating the various characteristics -
   durability,
      ease of application, price, ease of removal, gloss, whatever, you
   could
      pick the best product for your use.
      Anyone still subscribe to Consumer Reports? Anyone know of another
      impartial study? Thanks!
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