[DeTomaso] Le Mans Classic 2014

Fri Sep 13 11:48:18 EDT 2013

If you are thinking about attending, my recommendation would be to not rely
on estimations or heresay, but investigate a little bit how much it would
really cost to ship a car to Europe. 

You may be pleasantly surprised. When I moved to France in the last 90's, I
had completely discarded bringing my Pantera with me as I naturally assumed
it would be too expensive/risky. When I actually got a few quotes, I saw
that it was actually rather doable, and therefore I did it. 

I used a RORO twice with no issues. Mike Drew used a RORO when he shipped
his GT-350 clone over, and again when he shipped it back. No issues. It's
the method used by all normal European cars when imported to the US, and all
American cars when imported to Europe. 

The importation process was extremely easy - I arrived at the port in Le
Havre, and in less than 10 minutes I was happily motoring away from the
port. Yes, you need to prepare ahead of time and the trickiest part may be
insurance, but my experience was completely painless. And there is nothing
like driving in Europe with your own Pantera - it will be a different
experience I promise!

The broker I used has long since retired or I'd give you his info.

Charles McCall
Raising Pantera Awareness Across Europe
1985 DeTomaso Pantera #9375
 <http://www.poca.com/index.php/gallery/?g2_itemId=2323>
http://www.poca.com/index.php/gallery/?g2_itemId=2323

From: LS [mailto:lashdeep at yahoo.com] 
Sent: jueves, 12 de septiembre de 2013 23:16
To: michael at michaelshortt.com; Mike Drew
Cc: detomaso at poca.com; Gray Gregory; Charles McCall
Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Le Mans Classic 2014

Or throw it on a boat for less and risk it ending up a narrow body at
destination?

LS

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202-737-2800

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From: "michael at michaelshortt.com" <michaelsavga at gmail.com>
To: Mike Drew <MikeLDrew at aol.com> 
Cc: detomaso at poca.com; Gray Gregory <rgg at gregorycook.com>; LS
<lashdeep at yahoo.com>; Charles McCall <charlesmccall at gmail.com> 
Sent: Thursday, September 12, 2013 5:09 PM
Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Le Mans Classic 2014

I have a friend who is doing the MM next time, Lufthansa out of JFK,
strapped to a giant flat pallet, 12K each way.

Ouch.

Michael Shortt

On Sep 12, 2013 4:52 PM, "Mike Drew" <MikeLDrew at aol.com> wrote:

LS,

It's not difficult to get your car over there, especially to England. It
will be crazy expensive though!

Mike

Sent from my iPhone

On Sep 12, 2013, at 13:26, LS <lashdeep at yahoo.com> wrote:

> I will pitch it to the Mrs but shouldn't be too difficult since we are in
England regularly.
>
> Big question....how do we get the cars over for the drive?
>
> I'd love a pic with Mt St Michel in the background...
>
> LS
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> central
> wines-spirits   est 1934
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>
> 625 e street nw
>
> washington, dc 20004
>
> centralwines.com <http://centralwines.com/> 
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>
> facebook.com/CentralLiquors
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>
> 202-737-2800
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> ________________________________
> From: Gray Gregory <rgg at gregorycook.com>
> To: LS <lashdeep at yahoo.com>; Charles McCall <charlesmccall at gmail.com>;
"detomaso at poca.com" <detomaso at poca.com>
> Sent: Thursday, September 12, 2013 4:13 PM
> Subject: RE: [DeTomaso] Le Mans Classic 2014
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>
> Lashdeep,
>
> Good call!
>
> As a veteran of all but one of Charlie's tours I can tell you this will be
one of the best events you'll ever do!
>
> Gray
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: detomaso-bounces at poca.com [mailto:detomaso-bounces at poca.com] On
Behalf Of LS
> Sent: Thursday, September 12, 2013 1:27 PM
> To: Charles McCall; detomaso at poca.com
> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Le Mans Classic 2014
>
> WTH...put me on as well.
>
> This looks like a lot of fun!
>
> Thanks,
> LS
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> central
> wines-spirits   est 1934
>
>
> 625 e street nw
>
> washington, dc 20004
>
> centralwines.com <http://centralwines.com/> 
>
>
> facebook.com/CentralLiquors
>
>
> 202-737-2800
>
>
>
>
> ________________________________
> From: Charles McCall <charlesmccall at gmail.com>
> To: detomaso at poca.com
> Sent: Thursday, September 12, 2013 2:19 PM
> Subject: [DeTomaso] Le Mans Classic 2014
>
>
> Hi all
>
>
>
> Summer is drawing to a closer, summer vacation is over and there are no
more
> holidays to look forward to in the near future, so it's time to start
> dreaming again of future adventures.
>
>
>
> It appears that I'm not the only one, as in the past 10 days I've received
> e-mails from a rather large number of people asking about Le Mans 2014, so
> instead of answering one-by-one, I'm sending this e-mail to the DeTomaso
> Forum, and BCC-ing those who have expressed interest or have participated
in
> the past.
>
>
>
> Le Mans Classic is scheduled for July 4-6, 2014. Barring something
> unexpected, the World Famous DeTomaso Club of Spain will plan a tour
during
> the days leading up to the event. It would either start on Saturday, June
28
> or Sunday June 29 at some point in France remaining to be determined.
>
>
>
> 1) For those planning on camping at Le Mans, you can begin making
> arrangements already. I have a block of 40 sites reserved in my name. You
> should send an e-mail to sales at justtickets.co.uk and tell them that you
are
> part of our group. They will need a deposit by the end of the year, with
the
> remainder to be paid in 2014. Any sites without a deposit will be released
> by year end.
>
>
>
> 2) It is important to reserve the camp site ahead of time as it sells out
> far in advance of the event, and when the tickets are gone, they are gone.
> General Entry and Paddock Passes are unlimited, so you can decide later if
> you are unsure. Note that 2 general entry tickets are required for every
> campsite. Paddock Passes are optional, but highly recommended.
>
>
>
> 3) The camping pass is good for one car, 2 people. This gives you a small
> amount of real estate in the camping area - sufficient for your car and a
> normal tent. Not for Gordon-Smith MASH hospital sized tents.
>
>
>
> 4) If you will be roughing it in a hotel, I'd highly suggest you begin
> looking now. My mom will be attending, and she had tremendous difficulty
> finding a hotel available in Le Mans for the event weekend. There may be
> something organized by the French Pantera Connection - in the past they
have
> reserved a hotel that is 30-40 minutes away from the track or so. If you
> decide to stay there you can always cancel your own reservation, but be
> aware that hotel rooms become scarce a very long time before the event
>
>
>
> 5) I'm browsing the tour guides and Internet looking for inspiration for a
> theme or something particularly worthwhile for this year and would welcome
> suggestions, especially from the veterans. This will be the 6th time that
> Amaya and I spend a week in the Loire, and while it is a fantastic place
> we've seen the most spectacular chateaux in the area. I'd love to do
> something like the year we began in Normandy and saw Mont Saint Michel,
etc
> and then descended to the Loire. I'm looking at the Dordogne area, but
would
> welcome other ideas. I'd be interested in feedback from the Northern
> Europeans especially if touring the Dordogne would make their drive too
long
> for them to consider attending. You can google it, but it's an extra 4-5
> hours past Le Mans that you'd have to travel. I'd like to explore a new
> area, but the tour is about people and I'd rather "settle" for hanging out
> in the Loire Valley with everyone instead of seeing a new area that is too
> far away for many people.
>
>
>
> 6) If you are thinking of attending, please reply to this e-mail and I'll
> put your name on the mailing list for future information. I'll begin
working
> on the details in earnest in October/November, and will send out
information
> as it becomes available. If you have any questions regarding the LMC
event,
> the tour, hotels, travel, or whatever don't hesitate to write.
>
>
>
> Photos of previous events may be found on the POCA webpage as listed in my
> electronic signature, which gives an idea of what the event is about.
Thanks
> all, and we'll keep in touch!
>
>
>
> Charles McCall
> Raising Pantera Awareness Across Europe
> 1985 DeTomaso Pantera #9375
> <http://www.poca.com/index.php/gallery/?g2_itemId=2323>
> http://www.poca.com/index.php/gallery/?g2_itemId=2323
>
>
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