[DeTomaso] Insurance increase

Thu Nov 21 12:24:12 EST 2013

I have Hagerty with an agreed value of $60,000. also.   I replaced my cracked windshield last year and they were great.
Very nice, responsive via email and paid the claim immediately upon receiving the invoices.  Can't complain.

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From: Christopher Kimball <chrisvkimball at msn.com<mailto:chrisvkimball at msn.com>>
Date: Thursday, November 21, 2013 8:06 AM
To: Julian Kift <julian_kift at hotmail.com<mailto:julian_kift at hotmail.com>>
Cc: De Tomaso List <detomaso at poca.com<mailto:detomaso at poca.com>>
Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Insurance increase

I have had Hagerty since I purchased my car in 2006, and I told them it had modifications, including a 408 stroker, and my premium this year for an agreed value of $60,000 is $545 per year; the same as last year.  I've had two claims, one for about $1,700.00 (caused by me) and the other for $4,000.000 (caused by a mechanic who trashed my car), and both were paid immediately with no problems and no increase in premiums.

I have to say I've never dealt with any insurance company which has taken better care of me.

Sincerely,

Chris
President, Panteras Northwest

On Nov 21, 2013, at 10:55 AM, "Julian Kift" <julian_kift at hotmail.com<mailto:julian_kift at hotmail.com>> wrote:

My prior insurer was American Classic, but I got comparative quotes from Hagerty, Heacock, Grundy and a couple others.

As with all insurers rates are dependent on their perceived risk; i.e. your ZIP code, your insurability & record, credit score etc.

I urge you to give them a call and find out for yourself, hopefully you'll be as pleasantly surprised as I was.

Julian

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Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Insurance increase
From: pantdino at aol.com<mailto:pantdino at aol.com>
Date: Thu, 21 Nov 2013 00:53:00 -0500

What is BJ's insurance per $1000 value rate, and who was your prior insurer?

Jim

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From: Julian Kift <julian_kift at hotmail.com<mailto:julian_kift at hotmail.com>>
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Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Insurance increase

Asa Jay,

I think Michael Shortt already made an endorsement for the Barrett Jackson endorsed insurance, which is underwritten by Chartis. I would second that endorsement and for the last 3 years I have had 5 cars insured through them and halved my annual insurance bill to my prior provider. They truly are customer service oriented and a call or e-mail is usually responded to in less than 24 hours.

Julian

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Date: Wed, 20 Nov 2013 20:36:46 -0800
From: asajay at asajay.com<mailto:asajay at asajay.com>
To: detomaso at poca.com<mailto:detomaso at poca.com>
Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Insurance increase

Well.... it would seem that Hagerty has some "feelers" into the DeTomaso email forum.

I got an unsolicited phone call from them today.  The person who spoke with me had seen an email trail... and mentioned "Mike Drew."  I don't think Mike was the source, but that was the clue they probably have eyes into this list.  It's the -only- place I've made any comment, and as I recall... never mentioned their name, until now.  Of course Mike Drew hit the nail on the head when he said I'd been "Hagerty'ed."

Anyway... they wanted to make sure I understood why the change was so big and wanted to ask me questions about the "modifications," probably to see if they could re-classify it as stock in order to reduce my yearly cost.  Well, it seems 50 HP over stock may be the magic number (not to mention my other mods).  There was no dispute that it classified as a modified vehicle.

Then he talked about possible rate reductions if I increased my deductible.  Let's just say what was offered would have taken me 20 years to save in order to meet the deductible.  Umm... oh heck, it was take $50 of the yearly rate if you go with a $1,000 deductible.  Gee, really????  WOW!   .... no thanks, I can do math in my head.

I think I'll just get quotes from some of the others insurance vendors.  Since I know Hagerty will probably get a copy of this... um... yea... they need to offer me a sweeter deal than that.

:)
Asa  Jay

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& Shelley Marie
Spokane, WA
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On 11/19/2013 6:57 PM, Asa Jay Laughton wrote:
Possibly.  -that- as Mike pointed out, was the primary factor that increased the value.  When I said the modified engine was maybe 50 HP more than stock, he said that qualified for "modified."  And then there was the non-stock radiator, non-stock shocks...

Asa

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& Shelley Marie
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On 11/19/2013 6:19 PM, Mike Thomas wrote:
That brings up an interesting question: how modified is modified?  I’ve been with Hagerty since I bought the Pantera.  The body is stock, but the engine, suspension, wheels/tires, seats, etc. are certainly not stock.  Am I setting myself up for a denial of claim if something were to happen?

Mike Thomas
VP, POCA
VP, Panteras Northwest
Yellow ’74 #6328

From: DeTomaso [mailto:detomaso-bounces at poca.com] On Behalf Of Mike Drew
Sent: Tuesday, November 19, 2013 11:50 AM
To: Asa Jay Laughton
Cc: detomaso at poca.com<mailto:detomaso at poca.com>
Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Insurance increase

AJ,

Don't tell me, let me guess. You got Hagerty'ed.

Right?

Hagerty hates modified cars. When I was shopping they told me my rate would be triple their normal rate just because I had a fire system and aftermarket seat belts--both things that would potentially reduce their exposure!

Shop around. I am with heacock and my rates are very reasonable. I just raised my coverage and costs increase was minimal.

Mike

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On Nov 19, 2013, at 11:23, "Asa Jay Laughton"<asajay at asajay.com<mailto:asajay at asajay.com>> wrote:
Hey all,
I recently changed the policy on my Pantera.  I'm still with the same company, but I increased the agreed value based on recent market conditions and on-line valuation tools.  I also changed it from stock to modified.

The surprise in all this is that my cost for the policy more than tripled.  I was a bit stunned when I figured it all out.

Have you reviewed -your- policy recently to make sure you are adequately covered?

Asa Jay

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