[DeTomaso] 5,639 Panteras 71-74 ??

[Charles McCall]

It may depend a) on how much you value information regarding your car and
b) How much info is in your file (something you can't know until you order
it).

I've seen these files as well in Modena, and looked up my car. In my case,
it had rather basic information such as exterior color, interior color,
engine number, options (rear window defroster was an option?) and sold to.
But I wouldn't pay $110 for it - it didn't tell me anything I couldn't tell
by looking at the car itself (except for first owner, which I already knew)

There are other cars that have pages and pages of info - including service
records if the car was maintained in Europe. Details such as every part
that has been changed, with what mileage, what part was installed, etc.

If you've got the money and don't know what else to spend it on, then it
may be of interest to a fantatic. But it probably won't give you much
information that will change your life.


On Tue, Nov 5, 2013 at 12:38 PM, Vinh Ly <vinh.d.ly at gmail.com> wrote:

> I just got a reply this morning from Mirko Guolo at RS Corse in Modena for
> information on my Euro #7445.  He wrote that he could send me the info for
> € 110,00.  My initial take was that it was a little on the high side.  Has
> anyone else received copies from RS Corse and been satisfied with the
> quality of information that they received?
>
> Thanks,
> Vinh Ly
> '75 Euro GTS #7445
>
>
>
> On Tue, Nov 5, 2013 at 2:20 AM, <MikeLDrew at aol.com> wrote:
>
>>
>> In a message dated 11/4/13 18 51 10, michaelsavga at gmail.com writes:
>>
>>
>>
>> Not when almost all other marques have lists that are date, time, color,
>> option specific with a signature of the final quality check foreman.
>> It would be nice to know and not speculate which is all that any of us
>> can do at present.
>>
>>
>> >>>According to Ford records, my car was one of 2,131 Panteras produced
>> for Ford during 1972.  I assume that's the 1972 model (not calendar) year.
>> It was one of 445 produced in July, one of 558 cars painted yellow in 1972,
>> and one of 123 that were ordered from the same DSO.  It was released for
>> sale on 3/15/1973, serialized on 3/30/73 (whatever that means) and sold for
>> the first time on 8/7/73 by Merriam Motors in Wallingford, CT.
>>
>> It actually entered the USA in Baltimore, on a ship named Mare-By-Sea,
>> having been shipped from Italy on August 5th, 1972.
>>
>> This kind of data is available for every single Pantera sold by Ford in
>> the USA simply by ordering a Marti report.  Although the data is normally
>> VIN-specific, simply by getting one report for each model year, additive
>> numbers can be established to show the total number of Panteras imported
>> (probably not counting the pre-production prototypes etc. used for
>> crash-testing and federal certification, although I know the VINS of those
>> cars because I have the testing reports).  In fact, by getting Marti
>> reports for a car of each color, from each year, it would be very easy to
>> know exactly how many cars (both by year, and for all four years) were
>> produced in each color, etc.  All you'd have to do is ask them for the
>> information.
>>
>> And as I said before, all the records are available for the non-US-market
>> and post-Ford cars from De Tomaso in Modena.  While they don't have any
>> statistical information, they have everything you would want to know (to
>> include very specific information on the various modified engines that many
>> cars were equipped with) for each individual car.  Invoices,
>> correspondence, engine build data sheets, etc...it's all there.  I've seen
>> them with my own eyes.
>>
>> Don't speculate that records don't exist just because you haven't
>> attempted to access them, and journalists have been too lazy to do so....
>>
>> Mike
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