[DeTomaso] DeTomaso Digest, Vol 107, Issue 21
Larry - Ohio Time Corp
larry at ohiotimecorp.com
Wed May 22 10:29:00 EDT 2013
<<You should run for Congress with those skills.>>
No reason to insult Dave. He's way to good for them.
Larry (talk about a place with snakes) - Cleveland
-----Original Message-----
From: detomaso-bounces at poca.com [mailto:detomaso-bounces at poca.com] On Behalf
Of John Taphorn
Sent: Wednesday, May 22, 2013 8:29 AM
To: MDBell
Cc: detomaso at poca.com; detomaso-request at poca.com
Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] DeTomaso Digest, Vol 107, Issue 21
Dave, that was a cordial response to a less friendly introduction. You
should run for Congress with those skills.
JT
On 5/21/2013 10:55 PM, MDBell wrote:
> George,
>
> Welcome back!
>
> As far as the Detomaso email list goes, you pretty much get what you get.
> There is a tremendous amount of knowledge and expertise on just about
> anything to do with any Detomaso vehicle. If you have a question or
problem
> with a Detomaso vehicle then this is the place to be. And while the
> intended focus of the email list is clearly Detomaso, list topics often
end
> up drifting here and there and sometimes go absolutely nowhere. There are
> no real posting rules other than everyone is encouraged to play nice.
>
> There are a number of Detomaso list options though. If you don't like a
> specific thread then just delete the emails with that subject lines as
they
> arrive - you don't have to even read them. If you don't like the volume
of
> email traffic then you can subscribe to the daily digest only (a single
> email with a summary of all the day's email). If you don't want any
> Detomaso email at all then you can cancel it entirely and then just log on
> to the archives and browse as long and as often as you like - daily,
> monthly, yearly, etc.
>
> Good luck,
>
> Dave
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: detomaso-bounces at poca.com [mailto:detomaso-bounces at poca.com] On
Behalf
> Of willican44 at cox.net
> Sent: Tuesday, May 21, 2013 6:12 PM
> To: detomaso at poca.com
> Cc: detomaso-request at poca.com
> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] DeTomaso Digest, Vol 107, Issue 21
>
> ATTN!!! I am receiving the attached email every day and this is not
> necessary or desired. I thought I signed up for a newsletter, not an
empty
> repetitive and a pain in the butt email.
>
> Secondly, as an old newbie (75 and bought my Pantera in Nov as an attempt
to
> start slowing down in life) computer directions are not easily followed.
I
> will only follow one or two directions from anyone and then find it
> necessary to improvise. And if directions are not explicit I find it very
> easy to move on to other matters.
>
> So, I believe I'd enjoy receiving a Pantera centered newsletter, but I'm
not
> going to play computer games in order to receive one.
>
> Regards,
>
> George Williams
>
> Oh, and The Pantera is slowing me down; in the shop for new brakes, in the
> shop for new exhaust pipes cause the brake job pulled down the old ones;
in
> the shop for a hitorque starter, back in the shop for a new master
cylinder.
>
>
>
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>> Today's Topics:
>>
>> 1. Re: heater valve (Ken Green)
>> 2. Re: heater valve (John Buckman)
>> 3. Re: Master clutch hydraulic cylinder in Phoenix (John Buckman)
>> 4. NPC: Tornados' (shawkins777 at comcast.net)
>> 5. "California Car" - Valid Term? (LS)
>> 6. Re: "California Car" - Valid Term? (Ken Green)
>> 7. POCA Track Day at Inde Motorsports Ranch Willcox, Arizona
>> 6/8/2013 (JF)
>> 8. Re: NPC: Tornados' ( Charles Engles)
>> 9. Re: POCA Track Day at Inde Motorsports Ranch Willcox, Arizona
>> 6/8/2013 ( Charles Engles)
>> 10. Re: NPC: Tornados' (shawkins777 at comcast.net)
>> 11. Re: NPC: Tornados' (Larry - Ohio Time Corp)
>> 12. Vredestein Tires (Curt Hall)
>> 13. Re: heater valve (Asa Jay Laughton)
>> 14. Re: "California Car" - Valid Term? (Jerry Knotts)
>> 15. Re: heater valve (Forest Goodhart)
>> 16. Re: NPC: Tornados' (JPEP33 at aol.com)
>> 17. Fw: Reader Find: 1968 Ford Torino GT (Curt Hall)
>> 18. Re: Fw: Reader Find: 1968 Ford Torino GT
>> (michael at michaelshortt.com)
>> 19. Re: Fw: Reader Find: 1968 Ford Torino GT (gow2 at rc-tech.net)
>> 20. Re: "California Car" - Valid Term? (Pantdino)
>> 21. Re: Vredestein Tires (Pantdino)
>> 22. Re: Vredestein Tires (Arno Keijzer)
>> 23. Re: Vredestein Tires (Jack Donahue)
>> 24. Re: Speedometer (Will Kooiman)
>> 25. Re: Fw: Reader Find: 1968 Ford Torino GT (Mike Thomas)
>> 26. Re: Fw: Reader Find: 1968 Ford Torino GT (B Hower)
>> 27. Re: "California Car" - Valid Term? (Rob Dumoulin)
>> 28. Tornado (Jim Gray)
>> 29. Re: TORNADO IN OKLAHOMA (cengles at cox.net)
>> 30. Re: "California Car" - Valid Term? (michael at michaelshortt.com)
>> 31. Re: Tornado (Larry - Ohio Time Corp)
>> 32. Re: TORNADO IN OKLAHOMA (Jerry Knotts)
>> 33. Re: "California Car" - Valid Term? (Rob Dumoulin)
>> 34. Re: Tornado (Rob Dumoulin)
>> 35. Re: Speedometer (Mike Drew)
>> 36. Re: Tornado (Jerry Knotts)
>> 37. on this date (Larry - Ohio Time Corp)
>> 38. Re: Tornado (Stephen Nelson)
>> 39. Re: Tornado (Rob Dumoulin)
>> 40. Re: Speedometer ( J?rn C. Olsen )
>> 41. Engine stall under hard braking (eb0711 at kolumbus.fi)
>>
>>
>> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
>>
>> Message: 1
>> Date: Mon, 20 May 2013 12:13:49 -0700 (PDT)
>> From: Ken Green <kenn_green at yahoo.com>
>> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] heater valve
>> To: John Buckman <jb841 at cox.net>, "detomaso at poca.com"
>> <detomaso at poca.com>
>> Message-ID:
>> <1369077229.57309.YahooMailNeo at web162506.mail.bf1.yahoo.com>
>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1
>>
>> This may be helpful:
>> ?
>> http://www.panteraplace.com/page180.htm
>> ?
>> ?
>>
>>
>> ________________________________
>> From: John Buckman <jb841 at cox.net>
>> To: detomaso at poca.com
>> Sent: Monday, May 20, 2013 11:29 AM
>> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] heater valve
>>
>>
>> I found the post on the PI forum.? You need to be logged in to see the
> pics.?
>> Basically, you disassemble the valve and thread the packing end of the
> valve body with a 3/8"-24 die.? Purchase
>> a 3/16" (NOT 1/8" as stated in the PI forum post) compression fitting and
> some teflon valve packing material at
>> your favorite DIY store.? You will only need the nut from the compression
> fitting.? Assemble the valve stem,
>> compression nut and packing, and reassemble the valve.
>>
>> John
>> _______________________________________________
>>
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>> ------------------------------
>>
>> Message: 2
>> Date: Mon, 20 May 2013 13:13:04 -0700
>> From: John Buckman <jb841 at cox.net>
>> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] heater valve
>> To: Ken Green <kenn_green at yahoo.com>
>> Cc: "detomaso at poca.com" <detomaso at poca.com>
>> Message-ID: <23A1860C-ED9D-4056-9D6E-A108154372AF at cox.net>
>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
>>
>> That is the later style valve, which is different.
>>
>> John
>>
>>
>>
>> On May 20, 2013, at 12:13 PM, Ken Green wrote:
>>
>>> This may be helpful:
>>>
>>> http://www.panteraplace.com/page180.htm
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> From: John Buckman <jb841 at cox.net>
>>> To: detomaso at poca.com
>>> Sent: Monday, May 20, 2013 11:29 AM
>>> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] heater valve
>>>
>>> I found the post on the PI forum. You need to be logged in to see the
> pics.
>>> Basically, you disassemble the valve and thread the packing end of the
> valve body with a 3/8"-24 die. Purchase
>>> a 3/16" (NOT 1/8" as stated in the PI forum post) compression fitting
> and some teflon valve packing material at
>>> your favorite DIY store. You will only need the nut from the
> compression fitting. Assemble the valve stem,
>>> compression nut and packing, and reassemble the valve.
>>>
>>> John
>>> _______________________________________________
>>>
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>>
>>
>> ------------------------------
>>
>> Message: 3
>> Date: Mon, 20 May 2013 13:27:16 -0700
>> From: "John Buckman" <jb841 at cox.net>
>> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Master clutch hydraulic cylinder in Phoenix
>> To: <detomaso at poca.com>
>> Cc: chrisvkimbal at msn.com
>> Message-ID: <000001ce5598$6bd78740$438695c0$@cox.net>
>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
>>
>> I have a clutch master cylinder sitting on my bench, brand new. I'll
> bring
>> it with me in case nobody else arrives with one. Now all we have to do
is
>>
>> find the person with the 9" double jointed fingers to install it.
>>
>>
>>
>>>>> What we don't know is if Brian's car has the clutch pedal effort
>> reduction kit installed. This will
>>
>> dictate which pushrod is needed (long for no kit; short with kit). If
you
>> "flat rate" the clutch master
>>
>> cyl change, pushrod length won't matter, as the original push rod will be
>> reused.
>>
>>
>>
>> Also, we don't know if Brian's clutch master cyl is an original type or
an
>> aftermarket, like a CNC.
>>
>>
>>
>> I'm already in Chandler (arrived on Sat), but I won't be checking in at
> WHP
>> until tomorrow (Wed).
>>
>> I have a clutch master cyl (the "good" one), long and short pushrods, and
> a
>> clutch slave cyl that I
>>
>> brought with me, "just in case".
>>
>>
>>
>> John
>>
>> 760 420 4036
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> ------------------------------
>>
>> Message: 4
>> Date: Mon, 20 May 2013 21:18:32 +0000 (UTC)
>> From: shawkins777 at comcast.net
>> Subject: [DeTomaso] NPC: Tornados'
>> To: "forum, Pantera" <detomaso at poca.com>
>> Message-ID:
>>
>
<678027916.187668.1369084712226.JavaMail.root at sz0134a.emeryville.ca.mail.com
> cast.net>
>>
>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8
>>
>> I pray that our friends in Oklahoma are OK.
>>
>> Steve
>>
>>
>> ------------------------------
>>
>> Message: 5
>> Date: Mon, 20 May 2013 14:32:30 -0700 (PDT)
>> From: LS <lashdeep at yahoo.com>
>> Subject: [DeTomaso] "California Car" - Valid Term?
>> To: Detomaso List <detomaso at poca.com>
>> Message-ID:
>> <1369085550.85342.YahooMailNeo at web120205.mail.ne1.yahoo.com>
>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1
>>
>> Discussion point..."California Car" used to mean, dry, rust free, but
> maybe sun baked?
>> Does anyone even use this term anymore to describe vintage classics?
>>
>> Wasn't this used back in the day when people drove their exotics/classics
> as regular transportation and the lack of moisture in California would
imply
> a more favorable condition?
>> Nowadays, a classic car is a classic car whether from Buffalo, NY or San
> Diego.
>> I haven't seen a vintage Detomaso, Lamborghini or Ferrari being driven in
> the rain in a decade.
>> Nowadays, these classics are only out in the best of conditions...so it
> doesn't matter where it lives but what condition that particular car is in
> at any given time.
>> As more classics are coveted and less are stored on carports and in
> backyards, this term is becoming a thing of the past.
>> At least in the Collector Car world...
>>
>> LS
>>
>>
>> ?
>>
>>
>>
>> central
>> wines-spirits?? est 1934
>>
>>
>> 625 e street nw
>>
>> washington, dc 20004
>>
>> centralwines.com
>>
>>
>> facebook.com/CentralLiquors
>>
>>
>> 202-737-2800
>>
>> ------------------------------
>>
>> Message: 6
>> Date: Mon, 20 May 2013 14:39:55 -0700 (PDT)
>> From: Ken Green <kenn_green at yahoo.com>
>> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] "California Car" - Valid Term?
>> To: LS <lashdeep at yahoo.com>, Detomaso List <detomaso at poca.com>
>> Message-ID:
>> <1369085995.99355.YahooMailNeo at web162503.mail.bf1.yahoo.com>
>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1
>>
>> A lot of "California Panteras" were parked in beach cities.? The moist
> salt air rusts everything it can get to.
>> ?
>> Ken
>>
>>
>> ________________________________
>> From: LS <lashdeep at yahoo.com>
>> To: Detomaso List <detomaso at poca.com>
>> Sent: Monday, May 20, 2013 2:32 PM
>> Subject: [DeTomaso] "California Car" - Valid Term?
>>
>>
>> Discussion point..."California Car" used to mean, dry, rust free, but
> maybe sun baked?
>> Does anyone even use this term anymore to describe vintage classics?
>>
>> Wasn't this used back in the day when people drove their exotics/classics
> as regular transportation and the lack of moisture in California would
imply
> a more favorable condition?
>> Nowadays, a classic car is a classic car whether from Buffalo, NY or San
> Diego.
>> I haven't seen a vintage Detomaso, Lamborghini or Ferrari being driven in
> the rain in a decade.
>> Nowadays, these classics are only out in the best of conditions...so it
> doesn't matter where it lives but what condition that particular car is in
> at any given time.
>> As more classics are coveted and less are stored on carports and in
> backyards, this term is becoming a thing of the past.
>> At least in the Collector Car world...
>>
>> LS
>>
>>
>> ?
>>
>>
>>
>> central
>> wines-spirits?? est 1934
>>
>>
>> 625 e street nw
>>
>> washington, dc 20004
>>
>> centralwines.com
>>
>>
>> facebook.com/CentralLiquors
>>
>>
>> 202-737-2800
>> _______________________________________________
>>
>> Detomaso Forum Managed by POCA
>>
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>>
>> ------------------------------
>>
>> Message: 7
>> Date: Mon, 20 May 2013 14:53:41 -0700
>> From: "JF" <pantera at vtc.net>
>> Subject: [DeTomaso] POCA Track Day at Inde Motorsports Ranch Willcox,
>> Arizona 6/8/2013
>> To: <detomaso at poca.com>
>> Message-ID: <6CD6E12E335541A7BDC437AFD432FDEB at jfyyq6giaos5ui>
>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
>>
>> The owners of the Inde Motorsports Ranch in Willcox Arizona have made a
> special offer to the Pantera Owner's Club of America. On Saturday June 8,
> 2013 we have an official track day from 9:00 am to 5:00 pm for only
$120.00
> per driver. Lunch will be provided for the drivers and extra lunches will
> only be $10.00. At this time we only have four Panteras signed up for the
> event and we have a 30 car limit. I have a number of non Pantera owners
that
> are filling out the field, but will have room for at least five more
> Panteras before I have to close the RSVP date of May 24, 2013.
>> I know this is a short notice and it is just after the big fun rally in
> Phoenix last month. Contact me through this forum for more details if you
> are interested.
>> ------------------------------
>>
>> Message: 8
>> Date: Mon, 20 May 2013 17:02:05 -0500
>> From: " Charles Engles" <cengles at cox.net>
>> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] NPC: Tornados'
>> To: <shawkins777 at comcast.net>, "'forum, Pantera'"
> <detomaso at poca.com>
>> Message-ID: <001501ce55a5$aa4386c0$feca9440$@net>
>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
>>
>> Dear Steve,
>>
>>
>> Thanks for the prayers. We seem to have survived
> unscathed
>> on day two of the Tornado Siege. The PRI remains standing.
>>
>> However, the impact of today's tornado was in the locale
of
>> Jim Gray and Todd Reid. I have not heard from them...... My fingers
> are
>> crossed and I, too, am praying that they and their families are unhurt.
>>
>>
>> Warmest regards, Chuck Engles
>>
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: detomaso-bounces at poca.com [mailto:detomaso-bounces at poca.com] On
> Behalf
>> Of shawkins777 at comcast.net
>> Sent: Monday, May 20, 2013 4:19 PM
>> To: forum, Pantera
>> Subject: [DeTomaso] NPC: Tornados'
>>
>> I pray that our friends in Oklahoma are OK.
>>
>> Steve
>> _______________________________________________
>>
>> Detomaso Forum Managed by POCA
>>
>> DeTomaso mailing list
>> DeTomaso at poca.com
>> http://poca.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso
>>
>>
>>
>> ------------------------------
>>
>> Message: 9
>> Date: Mon, 20 May 2013 17:04:30 -0500
>> From: " Charles Engles" <cengles at cox.net>
>> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] POCA Track Day at Inde Motorsports Ranch
>> Willcox, Arizona 6/8/2013
>> To: "'JF'" <pantera at vtc.net>, <detomaso at poca.com>
>> Message-ID: <001d01ce55a6$011e7b30$035b7190$@net>
>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
>>
>> Dear Jim,
>>
>>
>> I have a feeling that you were instrumental in this event.
>> Nice work my friend. I hope the Arizona Pantera owners take advantage of
>> this excellent opportunity.
>>
>>
>> Warmest regards, Chuck Engles
>>
>>
>> PS: I hope you get to exercise your re-powered Pantera. Vroom. Vroom.
>>
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: detomaso-bounces at poca.com [mailto:detomaso-bounces at poca.com] On
> Behalf
>> Of JF
>> Sent: Monday, May 20, 2013 4:54 PM
>> To: detomaso at poca.com
>> Subject: [DeTomaso] POCA Track Day at Inde Motorsports Ranch Willcox,
>> Arizona 6/8/2013
>>
>> The owners of the Inde Motorsports Ranch in Willcox Arizona have made a
>> special offer to the Pantera Owner's Club of America. On Saturday June 8,
>> 2013 we have an official track day from 9:00 am to 5:00 pm for only
> $120.00
>> per driver. Lunch will be provided for the drivers and extra lunches will
>> only be $10.00. At this time we only have four Panteras signed up for the
>> event and we have a 30 car limit. I have a number of non Pantera owners
> that
>> are filling out the field, but will have room for at least five more
>> Panteras before I have to close the RSVP date of May 24, 2013.
>>
>> I know this is a short notice and it is just after the big fun rally in
>> Phoenix last month. Contact me through this forum for more details if you
>> are interested.
>> _______________________________________________
>>
>> Detomaso Forum Managed by POCA
>>
>> DeTomaso mailing list
>> DeTomaso at poca.com
>> http://poca.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso
>>
>>
>>
>> ------------------------------
>>
>> Message: 10
>> Date: Mon, 20 May 2013 22:29:22 +0000 (UTC)
>> From: shawkins777 at comcast.net
>> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] NPC: Tornados'
>> Cc: Pantera' 'forum <detomaso at poca.com>
>> Message-ID:
>>
>
<1420988416.190323.1369088962374.JavaMail.root at sz0134a.emeryville.ca.mail.co
> mcast.net>
>>
>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8
>>
>> I pray for them and all those that have been impacted by the storms
today.
>> Steve
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Charles Engles" <cengles at cox.net>
>> To: shawkins777 at comcast.net, "Pantera' 'forum" <detomaso at poca.com>
>> Sent: Monday, May 20, 2013 5:02:05 PM
>> Subject: RE: [DeTomaso] NPC: Tornados'
>>
>> Dear Steve,
>>
>>
>> Thanks for the prayers. We seem to have survived unscathed
>> on day two of the Tornado Siege. The PRI remains standing.
>>
>> However, the impact of today's tornado was in the locale of
>> Jim Gray and Todd Reid. I have not heard from them...... My fingers are
>> crossed and I, too, am praying that they and their families are unhurt.
>>
>>
>> Warmest regards, Chuck Engles
>>
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: detomaso-bounces at poca.com [mailto:detomaso-bounces at poca.com] On
> Behalf
>> Of shawkins777 at comcast.net
>> Sent: Monday, May 20, 2013 4:19 PM
>> To: forum, Pantera
>> Subject: [DeTomaso] NPC: Tornados'
>>
>> I pray that our friends in Oklahoma are OK.
>>
>> Steve
>> _______________________________________________
>>
>> Detomaso Forum Managed by POCA
>>
>> DeTomaso mailing list
>> DeTomaso at poca.com
>> http://poca.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso
>>
>>
>>
>> ------------------------------
>>
>> Message: 11
>> Date: Mon, 20 May 2013 18:34:25 -0400
>> From: "Larry - Ohio Time Corp" <larry at ohiotimecorp.com>
>> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] NPC: Tornados'
>> To: <shawkins777 at comcast.net>
>> Cc: 'Pantera' 'forum' <detomaso at poca.com>
>> Message-ID: <20130520223341.E6184834311 at mail.poca.com>
>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
>>
>> Amen, it is so hard to see all the destruction on the news day after day.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Larry - Cleveland
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: detomaso-bounces at poca.com [mailto:detomaso-bounces at poca.com] On
> Behalf
>> Of shawkins777 at comcast.net
>> Sent: Monday, May 20, 2013 6:29 PM
>> Cc: Pantera' 'forum
>> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] NPC: Tornados'
>>
>> I pray for them and all those that have been impacted by the storms
today.
>> Steve
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Charles Engles" <cengles at cox.net>
>> To: shawkins777 at comcast.net, "Pantera' 'forum" <detomaso at poca.com>
>> Sent: Monday, May 20, 2013 5:02:05 PM
>> Subject: RE: [DeTomaso] NPC: Tornados'
>>
>> Dear Steve,
>>
>>
>> Thanks for the prayers. We seem to have survived unscathed on day two of
> the
>> Tornado Siege. The PRI remains standing.
>>
>> However, the impact of today's tornado was in the locale of Jim Gray and
>> Todd Reid. I have not heard from them...... My fingers are crossed and I,
>> too, am praying that they and their families are unhurt.
>>
>>
>> Warmest regards, Chuck Engles
>>
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: detomaso-bounces at poca.com [mailto:detomaso-bounces at poca.com] On
> Behalf
>> Of shawkins777 at comcast.net
>> Sent: Monday, May 20, 2013 4:19 PM
>> To: forum, Pantera
>> Subject: [DeTomaso] NPC: Tornados'
>>
>> I pray that our friends in Oklahoma are OK.
>>
>> Steve
>> _______________________________________________
>>
>> Detomaso Forum Managed by POCA
>>
>> DeTomaso mailing list
>> DeTomaso at poca.com
>> http://poca.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>>
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>>
>>
>>
>> ------------------------------
>>
>> Message: 12
>> Date: Mon, 20 May 2013 15:45:02 -0700 (PDT)
>> From: Curt Hall <cuvee at sbcglobal.net>
>> Subject: [DeTomaso] Vredestein Tires
>> To: detomaso at poca.com
>> Message-ID:
>> <1369089902.95597.YahooMailClassic at web181302.mail.ne1.yahoo.com>
>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1
>>
>> Anybody know much about these tires? Vredestein tires, I believe are made
> in the UK. They have a good looking tire?315x35x17 Y rating and a 235 or
245
> for the front. Seems to be a reasonable priced tire?
>> ?
>> Any feed back...good or bad?
>> ?
>> Curt?
>>
>> ------------------------------
>>
>> Message: 13
>> Date: Mon, 20 May 2013 16:15:07 -0700
>> From: "Asa Jay Laughton"<asajay at asajay.com>
>> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] heater valve
>> To: MikeLDrew at aol.com, forestg at att.net, detomaso at POCA.com
>> Message-ID: <345b3bbc-9742-4b31-9325-84c9d14005d7 at blur>
>> Content-Type: text/plain; Format="Flowed"; DelSp="Yes";
>> charset="US-ASCII"
>>
>> I don't recall seeing any receipt from the original owner having replaced
>> the heater control valve. Are you certain what I have is an aftermarket
>> valve?
>>
>> Asa
>>
>> Sent using Jedi mind tricks.
>>
>> -----Original message-----
>> From: MikeLDrew at aol.com
>> To: forestg at att.net, detomaso at POCA.com
>> Sent: Mon, May 20, 2013 17:20:27 GMT+00:00
>> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] heater valve
>>
>>
>> In a message dated 5/19/13 21 52 25, forestg at att.net writes:
>>
>>
>>> Actually that is not a compression fitting, i ia a flare fitting. The
>>> valve Asa
>>> showed is a rotary style valve whereas the one you show is a plunger
> type.
>>>>> Ah, right you are! Thanks for the clarification!
>> I confess I hadn't actually looked at AJ's photos when I replied. Those
>> rotary valves are aftermarket replacements, and are notorious for working
>> well for only a fixed time. Lori has one in her car and it is
completely
>> frozen. With considerable effort, it can be opened by hand (that is, by
>> reaching under the dash and pushing on the valve with your thumb, leaving
> a
>> deep
>> indentation in the thumb for some time). It can be closed with the
> cable,
>> but the cable isn't strong enough to open it. The 'fix' for now is to
> just
>> leave the valve open all the time, and control the temperature in the
> cabin
>> by opening or closing the manual shutoff valves in the engine bay, which
> are
>> positioned to be very easy to reach from above.
>>
>> Besides my NOS Ford Pantera heater valve, I also have a vendor-sourced
>> replacement valve. I bought it more than 20 years ago but have yet to
> get
>> around to plumbing my heater. I believe the stock Pantera valves were
no
>> longer available even back then, and this was the work-around
replacement.
>> If
>> my memory is correct, it was purported to be an OEM Longchamp valve. It
>> works in basically the same fashion, but I also seem to recall that it
> works
>> backwards--that is, when it is installed in the car, due to its
> orientation,
>> it functions backwards. That is, when you put the dash lever to 'hot',
> it
>> closes the valve, and vice-versa?
>>
>> Here's a photo:
>>
>> http://www.poca.com/index.php/gallery/?g2_itemId=40284
>>
>> Mike
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>> Message: 14
>> Date: Mon, 20 May 2013 19:21:22 -0500
>> From: Jerry Knotts <knottsj at galstar.com>
>> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] "California Car" - Valid Term?
>> To: detomaso at poca.com
>> Message-ID: <519ABE02.3000002 at galstar.com>
>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed
>>
>> I guess I always thought it meant underpowered smog pump "special"
>> vehicle for sale only in the state of California. The rest of the
>> country got the higher compression lower mileage version..
>>
>> jerry
>>
>>
>> On 5/20/2013 4:32 PM, LS wrote:
>>> Discussion point..."California Car" used to mean, dry, rust free, but
> maybe sun baked?
>>> Does anyone even use this term anymore to describe vintage classics?
>>>
>>> Wasn't this used back in the day when people drove their
> exotics/classics as regular transportation and the lack of moisture in
> California would imply a more favorable condition?
>>> Nowadays, a classic car is a classic car whether from Buffalo, NY or San
> Diego.
>>> I haven't seen a vintage Detomaso, Lamborghini or Ferrari being driven
> in the rain in a decade.
>>> Nowadays, these classics are only out in the best of conditions...so it
> doesn't matter where it lives but what condition that particular car is in
> at any given time.
>>> As more classics are coveted and less are stored on carports and in
> backyards, this term is becoming a thing of the past.
>>> At least in the Collector Car world...
>>>
>>> LS
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> central
>>> wines-spirits est 1934
>>>
>>>
>>> 625 e street nw
>>>
>>> washington, dc 20004
>>>
>>> centralwines.com
>>>
>>>
>>> facebook.com/CentralLiquors
>>>
>>>
>>> 202-737-2800
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>>
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>>
>> Message: 15
>> Date: Mon, 20 May 2013 17:29:02 -0700 (PDT)
>> From: Forest Goodhart <forestg at att.net>
>> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] heater valve
>> To: detomaso at POCA.com
>> Message-ID:
>> <1369096142.22368.YahooMailRC at web180904.mail.ne1.yahoo.com>
>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1
>>
>> My guess is that the valve in Asa's car is an early production valve not
> listed
>> in the parts books. Tech bulletin 9, article 77 changes the existing
valve
> to
>> part number D36Y-18495-A?which is a push/pull type as opposed to rotary.
>> Original part number would have a D16Y prefix.
>> Just my guess.
>> Forest
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> ________________________________
>> From: Asa Jay Laughton <asajay at asajay.com>
>> To: MikeLDrew at aol.com; forestg at att.net; detomaso at POCA.com
>> Sent: Mon, May 20, 2013 4:15:06 PM
>> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] heater valve
>>
>> I don't recall seeing any receipt from the original owner having
replaced?
>> the heater control valve.? Are you certain what I have is an aftermarket?
>> valve?
>>
>> Asa
>>
>> Sent using Jedi mind tricks.
>>
>> -----Original message-----
>> From: MikeLDrew at aol.com
>> To: forestg at att.net,? detomaso at POCA.com
>> Sent: Mon, May 20, 2013 17:20:27 GMT+00:00
>> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] heater valve
>>
>>
>> In a message dated 5/19/13 21 52 25, forestg at att.net writes:
>>
>>
>>> Actually that is not a compression fitting, i ia a flare fitting. The
>>> valve Asa
>>> showed is a rotary style valve whereas the one you show is a plunger
> type.
>>>>> Ah, right you are!? Thanks for the clarification!
>> I confess I hadn't actually looked at AJ's photos when I replied.? Those
>> rotary valves are aftermarket replacements, and are notorious for working
>> well for only a fixed time.? Lori has one in her car and it is completely
>> frozen.? With considerable effort, it can be opened by hand (that is, by
>> reaching under the dash and pushing on the valve with your thumb, leaving
> a?
>> deep
>> indentation in the thumb for some time).? It can be closed with the
cable,
>> but the cable isn't strong enough to open it.? The 'fix' for now is to
> just?
>> leave the valve open all the time, and control the temperature in the
> cabin
>> by opening or closing the manual shutoff valves in the engine bay, which
> are?
>> positioned to be very easy to reach from above.
>>
>> Besides my NOS Ford Pantera heater valve, I also have a vendor-sourced
>> replacement valve.? I bought it more than 20 years ago but have yet to
get
>> around to plumbing my heater.? I believe the stock Pantera valves were no
>> longer available even back then, and this was the work-around
> replacement.? ?
>> If
>> my memory is correct, it was purported to be an OEM Longchamp valve.? It
>> works in basically the same fashion, but I also seem to recall that it
> works?
>> backwards--that is, when it is installed in the car, due to its
> orientation,?
>> it functions backwards.? That is, when you put the dash lever to 'hot',
it
>> closes the valve, and vice-versa?
>>
>> Here's a photo:
>>
>> http://www.poca.com/index.php/gallery/?g2_itemId=40284
>>
>> Mike
>> _______________________________________________
>>
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>> ------------------------------
>>
>> Message: 16
>> Date: Mon, 20 May 2013 20:40:40 -0400 (EDT)
>> From: JPEP33 at aol.com
>> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] NPC: Tornados'
>> To: shawkins777 at comcast.net
>> Cc: detomaso at poca.com
>> Message-ID: <279fb.4cdfd840.3ecc1c88 at aol.com>
>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII"
>>
>> Amen and ditto!
>>
>> JP-Texas
>>
>>
>> In a message dated 5/20/2013 5:56:31 P.M. Central Daylight Time,
>> shawkins777 at comcast.net writes:
>>
>> I pray for them and all those that have been impacted by the storms
> today.
>>
>>
>> Steve
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Charles Engles" <cengles at cox.net>
>> To: shawkins777 at comcast.net, "Pantera' 'forum" <detomaso at poca.com>
>> Sent: Monday, May 20, 2013 5:02:05 PM
>> Subject: RE: [DeTomaso] NPC: Tornados'
>>
>> Dear Steve,
>>
>>
>> Thanks for the prayers. We seem to have survived unscathed
>> on day two of the Tornado Siege. The PRI remains standing.
>>
>> However, the impact of today's tornado was in the locale of
>> Jim Gray and Todd Reid. I have not heard from them...... My fingers are
>> crossed and I, too, am praying that they and their families are unhurt.
>>
>>
>> Warmest regards, Chuck Engles
>>
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: detomaso-bounces at poca.com [mailto:detomaso-bounces at poca.com] On
>> Behalf
>> Of shawkins777 at comcast.net
>> Sent: Monday, May 20, 2013 4:19 PM
>> To: forum, Pantera
>> Subject: [DeTomaso] NPC: Tornados'
>>
>> I pray that our friends in Oklahoma are OK.
>>
>> Steve
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>> Message: 17
>> Date: Mon, 20 May 2013 17:53:47 -0700 (PDT)
>> From: Curt Hall <cuvee at sbcglobal.net>
>> Subject: [DeTomaso] Fw: Reader Find: 1968 Ford Torino GT
>> To: detomaso at poca.com
>> Message-ID:
>> <1369097627.81433.YahooMailClassic at web181305.mail.ne1.yahoo.com>
>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1
>>
>>
>> Is this Ford wearing Campys?
>>
>> --- On Mon, 5/20/13, BarnFinds.com <mail at barnfinds.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>> From: BarnFinds.com <mail at barnfinds.com>
>> Subject: Reader Find: 1968 Ford Torino GT
>> To: cuvee at sbcglobal.net
>> Date: Monday, May 20, 2013, 5:46 PM
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Instant Updates
>>
>>
>> Reader Find: 1968 Ford Torino GT
>>
>>
>>
>> Reader Steve L. recently found this 1968 Ford Torino GT in this Oklahoma
> City yard, where it had been parked for the past 33 years. The women who
> owned it had a fence put up around it to protect it and over the years it
> sunk into the ground. After buying it, he was able to drag it from its
> resting place and discovered how solid it really was.
>> The post Reader Find: 1968 Ford Torino GT appeared first on Barn Finds.
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>>
>>
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>> Message: 18
>> Date: Mon, 20 May 2013 20:57:31 -0400
>> From: "michael at michaelshortt.com" <michaelsavga at gmail.com>
>> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Fw: Reader Find: 1968 Ford Torino GT
>> To: Curt Hall <cuvee at sbcglobal.net>
>> Cc: "detomaso at poca.com" <detomaso at poca.com>
>> Message-ID:
>> <CAEWtxWr37KahaKsXCz4nKgTP0d+WLQXfyYWLD7u4fRgwPUr+-A at mail.gmail.com>
>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
>>
>> It sure is.
>>
>> Michael
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Mon, May 20, 2013 at 8:53 PM, Curt Hall <cuvee at sbcglobal.net> wrote:
>>
>>> Is this Ford wearing Campys?
>>>
>>> --- On Mon, 5/20/13, BarnFinds.com <mail at barnfinds.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> From: BarnFinds.com <mail at barnfinds.com>
>>> Subject: Reader Find: 1968 Ford Torino GT
>>> To: cuvee at sbcglobal.net
>>> Date: Monday, May 20, 2013, 5:46 PM
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Instant Updates
>>>
>>>
>>> Reader Find: 1968 Ford Torino GT
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Reader Steve L. recently found this 1968 Ford Torino GT in this Oklahoma
>>> City yard, where it had been parked for the past 33 years. The women who
>>> owned it had a fence put up around it to protect it and over the years
> it
>>> sunk into the ground. After buying it, he was able to drag it from its
>>> resting place and discovered how solid it really was.
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>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Michael L. Shortt
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>> Message: 19
>> Date: Mon, 20 May 2013 20:58:20 -0500
>> From: gow2 at rc-tech.net
>> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Fw: Reader Find: 1968 Ford Torino GT
>> To: "Curt Hall" <cuvee at sbcglobal.net>
>> Cc: detomaso at poca.com
>> Message-ID:
>> <6e8c8a9f49ff629727a4673b72c03a82.squirrel at sm.webmail.pair.com>
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>>
>> Hal and Bev had an old Ranchero with Campies. It looked suprisingly good.
>>
>>
>>
>>> Is this Ford wearing Campys?
>>>
>>> --- On Mon, 5/20/13, BarnFinds.com <mail at barnfinds.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> From: BarnFinds.com <mail at barnfinds.com>
>>> Subject: Reader Find: 1968 Ford Torino GT
>>> To: cuvee at sbcglobal.net
>>> Date: Monday, May 20, 2013, 5:46 PM
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Instant Updates
>>>
>>>
>>> Reader Find: 1968 Ford Torino GT
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Reader Steve L. recently found this 1968 Ford Torino GT in this Oklahoma
>>> City yard, where it had been parked for the past 33 years. The women who
>>> owned it had a fence put up around it to protect it and over the years
> it
>>> sunk into the ground. After buying it, he was able to drag it from its
>>> resting place and discovered how solid it really was.
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>> Message: 20
>> Date: Tue, 21 May 2013 00:21:12 -0400 (EDT)
>> From: Pantdino <pantdino at aol.com>
>> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] "California Car" - Valid Term?
>> To: kenn_green at yahoo.com, lashdeep at yahoo.com, detomaso at poca.com
>> Message-ID: <8D023F1C2B2BBC1-1E04-531A8 at webmail-m246.sysops.aol.com>
>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
>>
>>
>> Depends on the classic.
>> Panteras are more exotic and few people drove them daily, so I don't the
> California / southwest history means as much.
>> However, when I was looking for a TR6 I saw some online in the Midwest
> that were in need of a new frame because it was fatally rusted thru.
>>
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Ken Green <kenn_green at yahoo.com>
>> To: LS <lashdeep at yahoo.com>; Detomaso List <detomaso at poca.com>
>> Sent: Mon, May 20, 2013 2:40 pm
>> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] "California Car" - Valid Term?
>>
>>
>> A lot of "California Panteras" were parked in beach cities. The moist
> salt air
>> rusts everything it can get to.
>>
>> Ken
>>
>>
>> ________________________________
>> From: LS <lashdeep at yahoo.com>
>> To: Detomaso List <detomaso at poca.com>
>> Sent: Monday, May 20, 2013 2:32 PM
>> Subject: [DeTomaso] "California Car" - Valid Term?
>>
>>
>> Discussion point..."California Car" used to mean, dry, rust free, but
> maybe sun
>> baked?
>>
>> Does anyone even use this term anymore to describe vintage classics?
>>
>> Wasn't this used back in the day when people drove their exotics/classics
> as
>> regular transportation and the lack of moisture in California would imply
> a more
>> favorable condition?
>>
>> Nowadays, a classic car is a classic car whether from Buffalo, NY or San
> Diego.
>> I haven't seen a vintage Detomaso, Lamborghini or Ferrari being driven in
> the
>> rain in a decade.
>>
>> Nowadays, these classics are only out in the best of conditions...so it
> doesn't
>> matter where it lives but what condition that particular car is in at any
> given
>> time.
>>
>> As more classics are coveted and less are stored on carports and in
> backyards,
>> this term is becoming a thing of the past.
>>
>> At least in the Collector Car world...
>>
>> LS
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> central
>> wines-spirits est 1934
>>
>>
>> 625 e street nw
>>
>> washington, dc 20004
>>
>> centralwines.com
>>
>>
>> facebook.com/CentralLiquors
>>
>>
>> 202-737-2800
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>>
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>> ------------------------------
>>
>> Message: 21
>> Date: Tue, 21 May 2013 00:23:11 -0400 (EDT)
>> From: Pantdino <pantdino at aol.com>
>> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Vredestein Tires
>> To: cuvee at sbcglobal.net, detomaso at poca.com
>> Message-ID: <8D023F209AC38F2-1E04-531B3 at webmail-m246.sysops.aol.com>
>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
>>
>>
>> I don't know that particular tire, but the brand has a pretty good
> reputation.
>> They used to be made in Holland, IIRC, hence the name, but that could
have
> changed.
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Curt Hall <cuvee at sbcglobal.net>
>> To: detomaso <detomaso at poca.com>
>> Sent: Mon, May 20, 2013 3:45 pm
>> Subject: [DeTomaso] Vredestein Tires
>>
>>
>> Anybody know much about these tires? Vredestein tires, I believe are made
> in the
>> UK. They have a good looking tire 315x35x17 Y rating and a 235 or 245 for
> the
>> front. Seems to be a reasonable priced tire?
>>
>> Any feed back...good or bad?
>>
>> Curt
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>> Message: 22
>> Date: Tue, 21 May 2013 08:43:31 +0200
>> From: Arno Keijzer <arnokeijzer at xs4all.nl>
>> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Vredestein Tires
>> To: Pantdino <pantdino at aol.com>
>> Cc: "detomaso at poca.com" <detomaso at poca.com>
>> Message-ID: <AA64C1D5-13AF-4072-8013-EB7D190DBCD5 at xs4all.nl>
>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
>>
>> I believe they are still made here in Holland. I have been using them on
> my Volvo T5R for 400.000KM ( several sets ;-)) and they are just as good
as
> other good brands. I used 235x45x17 with the special cho....ro or
something
> profile on them. Cupt the edges a bid, but that could be the driving style
> :-) No complaints.
>> Grtz Arno
>>
>> Op 21 mei 2013 om 06:23 heeft Pantdino <pantdino at aol.com> het volgende
> geschreven:
>>> I don't know that particular tire, but the brand has a pretty good
> reputation.
>>> They used to be made in Holland, IIRC, hence the name, but that could
> have changed.
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Curt Hall <cuvee at sbcglobal.net>
>>> To: detomaso <detomaso at poca.com>
>>> Sent: Mon, May 20, 2013 3:45 pm
>>> Subject: [DeTomaso] Vredestein Tires
>>>
>>>
>>> Anybody know much about these tires? Vredestein tires, I believe are
> made in the
>>> UK. They have a good looking tire 315x35x17 Y rating and a 235 or 245
> for the
>>> front. Seems to be a reasonable priced tire?
>>>
>>> Any feed back...good or bad?
>>>
>>> Curt
>>> _______________________________________________
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>> Message: 23
>> Date: Mon, 20 May 2013 23:59:26 -0700
>> From: Jack Donahue <demongusta at me.com>
>> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Vredestein Tires
>> To: Arno Keijzer <arnokeijzer at xs4all.nl>
>> Cc: detomaso at poca.com
>> Message-ID: <65493F85-963A-4647-AB5B-4CEC487759B5 at me.com>
>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
>>
>> Had them on my MG - best dry weather tires going at the time
>> On May 20, 2013, at 11:43 PM, Arno Keijzer wrote:
>>
>>> I believe they are still made here in Holland. I have been using them on
> my Volvo T5R for 400.000KM ( several sets ;-)) and they are just as good
as
> other good brands. I used 235x45x17 with the special cho....ro or
something
> profile on them. Cupt the edges a bid, but that could be the driving style
> :-) No complaints.
>>> Grtz Arno
>>>
>>> Op 21 mei 2013 om 06:23 heeft Pantdino <pantdino at aol.com> het volgende
> geschreven:
>>>> I don't know that particular tire, but the brand has a pretty good
> reputation.
>>>> They used to be made in Holland, IIRC, hence the name, but that could
> have changed.
>>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: Curt Hall <cuvee at sbcglobal.net>
>>>> To: detomaso <detomaso at poca.com>
>>>> Sent: Mon, May 20, 2013 3:45 pm
>>>> Subject: [DeTomaso] Vredestein Tires
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Anybody know much about these tires? Vredestein tires, I believe are
> made in the
>>>> UK. They have a good looking tire 315x35x17 Y rating and a 235 or 245
> for the
>>>> front. Seems to be a reasonable priced tire?
>>>>
>>>> Any feed back...good or bad?
>>>>
>>>> Curt
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>> Message: 24
>> Date: Tue, 21 May 2013 07:01:58 -0400
>> From: Will Kooiman <will.kooiman at gmail.com>
>> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Speedometer
>> To: <shawkins777 at comcast.net>
>> Cc: detomaso at poca.com
>> Message-ID: <CDC0CBAC.3BC1E%will.kooiman at gmail.com>
>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1"
>>
>> There are 2 thumb screws that need to be removed. The speedo fits into
>> the dash, and there is a metal bracket that holds it in from behind.
>> There are two studs in the speedo. The studs fit through the bracket,
and
>> then the thumbscrews.
>>
>> I believe they have small lock washers on them too.
>>
>> Once you get the thumb screws removed, you can push the speedo out of the
>> dash. It is wedged into the dash pretty tight, but it comes out.
>>
>> There is the speedo cable that Steve mentioned, plus there's the trip
>> odometer reset cable. I *think* you can push the speedo out with both
>> attached. It depends on the slack on the cables. Even if you can't, it
>> is easier to remove them after pushing the speedo out a little.
>> --
>> Will
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On 5/20/13 2:57 PM, "shawkins777 at comcast.net" <shawkins777 at comcast.net>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> You can access the back and remove the cable with the speedometer in the
>>> car.
>>>
>>> Steve
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "J?rn C. Olsen" <joernco at online.no>
>>> To: detomaso at poca.com
>>> Sent: Monday, May 20, 2013 10:46:46 AM
>>> Subject: [DeTomaso] Speedometer
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Hi!
>>>
>>> What is the best way to get the speedometer out or access the back, need
>>> to
>>> check the cable?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> J.C.
>>>
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>> Message: 25
>> Date: Tue, 21 May 2013 05:46:12 -0700
>> From: "Mike Thomas" <mbefthomas at comcast.net>
>> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Fw: Reader Find: 1968 Ford Torino GT
>> To: "'Curt Hall'" <cuvee at sbcglobal.net>, <detomaso at poca.com>
>> Message-ID: <003b01ce5621$2d0c3f90$8724beb0$@comcast.net>
>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
>>
>> Where's the link/pics?
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: detomaso-bounces at poca.com [mailto:detomaso-bounces at poca.com] On
> Behalf
>> Of Curt Hall
>> Sent: Monday, May 20, 2013 5:54 PM
>> To: detomaso at poca.com
>> Subject: [DeTomaso] Fw: Reader Find: 1968 Ford Torino GT
>>
>>
>> Is this Ford wearing Campys?
>>
>> --- On Mon, 5/20/13, BarnFinds.com <mail at barnfinds.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>> From: BarnFinds.com <mail at barnfinds.com>
>> Subject: Reader Find: 1968 Ford Torino GT
>> To: cuvee at sbcglobal.net
>> Date: Monday, May 20, 2013, 5:46 PM
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Instant Updates
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>> Reader Find: 1968 Ford Torino GT
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>>
>>
>> Reader Steve L. recently found this 1968 Ford Torino GT in this Oklahoma
>> City yard, where it had been parked for the past 33 years. The women who
>> owned it had a fence put up around it to protect it and over the years it
>> sunk into the ground. After buying it, he was able to drag it from its
>> resting place and discovered how solid it really was.
>> The post Reader Find: 1968 Ford Torino GT appeared first on Barn Finds.
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>> Message: 26
>> Date: Tue, 21 May 2013 05:58:42 -0700 (PDT)
>> From: B Hower <b.hower3400 at yahoo.com>
>> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Fw: Reader Find: 1968 Ford Torino GT
>> To: 'Curt Hall' <cuvee at sbcglobal.net>, detomaso at poca.com, Mike Thomas
>> <mbefthomas at comcast.net>
>> Message-ID:
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>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
>>
>> http://www.barnfinds.com/
>>
>> Bud #3400 ( Drive it like there is no tomorrow -- for there may not be !
)
>>
>> --- On Tue, 5/21/13, Mike Thomas <mbefthomas at comcast.net> wrote:
>>
>>
>> From: Mike Thomas <mbefthomas at comcast.net>
>> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Fw: Reader Find: 1968 Ford Torino GT
>> To: "'Curt Hall'" <cuvee at sbcglobal.net>, detomaso at poca.com
>> Date: Tuesday, May 21, 2013, 7:46 AM
>>
>>
>> Where's the link/pics?
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: detomaso-bounces at poca.com [mailto:detomaso-bounces at poca.com] On
> Behalf
>> Of Curt Hall
>> Sent: Monday, May 20, 2013 5:54 PM
>> To: detomaso at poca.com
>> Subject: [DeTomaso] Fw: Reader Find: 1968 Ford Torino GT
>>
>>
>> Is this Ford wearing Campys?
>>
>> --- On Mon, 5/20/13, BarnFinds.com <mail at barnfinds.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>> From: BarnFinds.com <mail at barnfinds.com>
>> Subject: Reader Find: 1968 Ford Torino GT
>> To: cuvee at sbcglobal.net
>> Date: Monday, May 20, 2013, 5:46 PM
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Instant Updates
>>
>>
>> Reader Find: 1968 Ford Torino GT
>>
>>
>>
>> Reader Steve L. recently found this 1968 Ford Torino GT in this Oklahoma
>> City yard, where it had been parked for the past 33 years. The women who
>> owned it had a fence put up around it to protect it and over the years it
>> sunk into the ground. After buying it, he was able to drag it from its
>> resting place and discovered how solid it really was.
>> The post Reader Find: 1968 Ford Torino GT appeared first on Barn Finds.
>> Read more at barnfinds.com >
>> Click here to subscribe or change frequency of updates.
>>
>>
>>
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>> Message: 27
>> Date: Tue, 21 May 2013 09:19:55 -0400
>> From: Rob Dumoulin <rob at dumoulins.net>
>> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] "California Car" - Valid Term?
>> To: Jerry Knotts <knottsj at galstar.com>
>> Cc: DeTomaso Mail List <detomaso at poca.com>
>> Message-ID:
>> <CAEr4y_sZHn8urpKLKq1_i+nGUZEAmuHPAcbkdjaroH_maN0U8w at mail.gmail.com>
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>> Jerry's definition is what it means to me. When searching for a
modern-day
>> car, I avoid anything that says "California" because of the setup/add ons
>> that came with it. Definitely a negative rather than a positive for
>> anybody outside of CA.
>>
>> Rob
>>
>>
>> On Mon, May 20, 2013 at 8:21 PM, Jerry Knotts <knottsj at galstar.com>
wrote:
>>
>>> I guess I always thought it meant underpowered smog pump "special"
>>> vehicle for sale only in the state of California. The rest of the
>>> country got the higher compression lower mileage version..
>>>
>>> jerry
>>>
>>>
>>> On 5/20/2013 4:32 PM, LS wrote:
>>>> Discussion point..."California Car" used to mean, dry, rust free, but
>>> maybe sun baked?
>>>> Does anyone even use this term anymore to describe vintage classics?
>>>>
>>>> Wasn't this used back in the day when people drove their
>>> exotics/classics as regular transportation and the lack of moisture in
>>> California would imply a more favorable condition?
>>>> Nowadays, a classic car is a classic car whether from Buffalo, NY or
> San
>>> Diego.
>>>> I haven't seen a vintage Detomaso, Lamborghini or Ferrari being driven
>>> in the rain in a decade.
>>>> Nowadays, these classics are only out in the best of conditions...so
> it
>>> doesn't matter where it lives but what condition that particular car is
> in
>>> at any given time.
>>>> As more classics are coveted and less are stored on carports and in
>>> backyards, this term is becoming a thing of the past.
>>>> At least in the Collector Car world...
>>>>
>>>> LS
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> central
>>>> wines-spirits est 1934
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> 625 e street nw
>>>>
>>>> washington, dc 20004
>>>>
>>>> centralwines.com
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> facebook.com/CentralLiquors
>>>>
>>>>
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>> Message: 28
>> Date: Tue, 21 May 2013 06:40:49 -0700 (PDT)
>> From: Jim Gray <grayjim at att.net>
>> Subject: [DeTomaso] Tornado
>> To: "detomaso at poca.com" <detomaso at poca.com>
>> Message-ID:
>> <1369143649.32687.YahooMailRC at web184703.mail.ne1.yahoo.com>
>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1
>>
>> Thanks for the prayers and good wishes from all of you.?
>>
>> The tornado went through South OKC/Moore about a mile or two south of my
>> neighborhood.? I'm on SW 118th in OKC and the storm went across on SW 134
> and SW
>> 149th.? Wife and I are OK.
>>
>> Unfortunately my daughter had lost the roof off her house on Sunday
> night.? She
>> and her family are now living at the Embassy in Norman, OK.
>>
>> Jim "feeling lucky" Gray
>>
>>
>> ------------------------------
>>
>> Message: 29
>> Date: Tue, 21 May 2013 13:50:53 +0000 (GMT)
>> From: cengles at cox.net
>> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] TORNADO IN OKLAHOMA
>> To: teampantera at yahoo.com
>> Cc: detomaso at poca.com, asajay at asajay.com, gndplne at yahoo.com
>> Message-ID: <abeff4.1fbd8.13ec75b5d38.Webtop.0 at cox.net>
>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed; delsp=no
>>
>> Dear Dennis,
>>
>>
>> All is well at the Pantera Research Institute by God's
>> grace and dumb luck with Mother Nature. I *think* the other OKC Pantera
>> owners survived unscathed, but I have yet to hear from all of them.
>>
>>
>> Counting my blessings, Chuck Engles
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Mon, May 20, 2013 at 8:48 PM, Team Pantera wrote:
>>
>>> Doc You okay out there?
>>> Tornado hit close to you or family?
>>> MD
>>>
>>> Charles Engles <cengles at cox.net> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Dear Mark,
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Well done, sir.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Warmest regards, Chuck Engles
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: detomaso-bounces at poca.com [mailto:detomaso-bounces at poca.com] On
>>>> Behalf
>>>> Of mark skwarek
>>>> Sent: Sunday, May 19, 2013 5:16 PM
>>>> To: Mad Dog Antenucci; detomaso at poca.com; Asa Jay Laughton; John
>>>> Bentley
>>>> Subject: [DeTomaso] NORC
>>>>
>>>> We have just arrived @ Sam's Town for the festivities. ?
>>>> Had a great race. Hopefully I was not DQ'ed at the start for
>>>> excessive
>>>> speed. ?
>>>> After 10 miles,?I smelled oil. Looking in the rear view mirror, all I
>>>> could
>>>> see was oil. looking over my shoulder, I could see lots of smoke and
>>>> oil
>>>> flying around. Doing 138 mph at this time. I found that if I went
>>>> below 115
>>>> mph things were not too bad.?I decided to press on, not wanting a
>>>> DNF. ?
>>>> I managed to finish the race avg 117-118. (Will get results tonight).
>>>> ?
>>>> For the last mile I decided to abandon caution and do 138 mph at the
>>>> finish
>>>> line with smoke billowing out the rear. ?
>>>> I had a great time and look foward to doing it again, even if it is a
>>>> 2600
>>>> mile tow.
>>>> ?
>>>> Mark
>>>> 5481
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>> Message: 30
>> Date: Tue, 21 May 2013 10:07:31 -0400
>> From: "michael at michaelshortt.com" <michaelsavga at gmail.com>
>> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] "California Car" - Valid Term?
>> To: Rob Dumoulin <rob at dumoulins.net>
>> Cc: DeTomaso Mail List <detomaso at poca.com>, Jerry Knotts
>> <knottsj at galstar.com>
>> Message-ID:
>> <CAEWtxWpN42oQLDMd4WipSK6t2=V9ZovN6HdH_VtA8mdWOmUxQw at mail.gmail.com>
>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
>>
>> I have a recent story, last Friday to be exact.
>>
>> A one day project took me to Waycross, Georgia ( approx 3 miles west of
BF
>> Egypt )
>>
>> While there, my 2006 Ford Excursion V10 with 41K original miles died.
>>
>> First issue ever with this vehicle.
>>
>> I diagnosed the problem myself ( fuel pump) and called a tow truck.
>>
>> Went to the Ford dealer, thankfully this was very early in the day, as
the
>> cut off time to order parts
>>
>> was 11 am.
>>
>> So it could be driven from Albany. Georgia 3 hours further west.
>>
>> Went the pump arrived, the tech removed the tank, withdrew the old pump
> and
>> BAM....my truck is a California Emissions equipped version, different
fuel
>> pump and wiring harness.
>>
>> To order a new one, would take 3 days, since NOBODY in Georgia keeps a
CA
>> pump in stock.
>>
>> I would be stranded in this town for three days.
>>
>> I looked at the new pump and the old pump and noticed that the top was
>> different but the business end was the same,
>>
>> so, we took them both apart and switched the "guts" and it worked
>> perfectly.
>>
>> No word to the wiser and the warranty is still intact.
>>
>> Now I know why Excursion #3 ( a 2006) gets the worst gas mileage of any
of
>> the three ( 2000, and 2003) that I have owned,
>>
>> I bought the other two new off the lot and bought this one used off eBay
> in
>> FL, with 16K miles on it in 2009, and it was
>>
>> apparently from CA before that.
>>
>> Michael Shortt
>>
>>
>>
>> On Tue, May 21, 2013 at 9:19 AM, Rob Dumoulin <rob at dumoulins.net> wrote:
>>
>>> Jerry's definition is what it means to me. When searching for a
> modern-day
>>> car, I avoid anything that says "California" because of the setup/add
> ons
>>> that came with it. Definitely a negative rather than a positive for
>>> anybody outside of CA.
>>>
>>> Rob
>>>
>>>
>>> On Mon, May 20, 2013 at 8:21 PM, Jerry Knotts <knottsj at galstar.com>
> wrote:
>>>> I guess I always thought it meant underpowered smog pump "special"
>>>> vehicle for sale only in the state of California. The rest of the
>>>> country got the higher compression lower mileage version..
>>>>
>>>> jerry
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 5/20/2013 4:32 PM, LS wrote:
>>>>> Discussion point..."California Car" used to mean, dry, rust free,
> but
>>>> maybe sun baked?
>>>>> Does anyone even use this term anymore to describe vintage classics?
>>>>>
>>>>> Wasn't this used back in the day when people drove their
>>>> exotics/classics as regular transportation and the lack of moisture in
>>>> California would imply a more favorable condition?
>>>>> Nowadays, a classic car is a classic car whether from Buffalo, NY or
>>> San
>>>> Diego.
>>>>> I haven't seen a vintage Detomaso, Lamborghini or Ferrari being
> driven
>>>> in the rain in a decade.
>>>>> Nowadays, these classics are only out in the best of conditions...so
> it
>>>> doesn't matter where it lives but what condition that particular car
> is
>>> in
>>>> at any given time.
>>>>> As more classics are coveted and less are stored on carports and in
>>>> backyards, this term is becoming a thing of the past.
>>>>> At least in the Collector Car world...
>>>>>
>>>>> LS
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> central
>>>>> wines-spirits est 1934
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> 625 e street nw
>>>>>
>>>>> washington, dc 20004
>>>>>
>>>>> centralwines.com
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> facebook.com/CentralLiquors
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> 202-737-2800
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>> --
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>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Michael L. Shortt
>> Savannah, Georgia
>> www.michaelshortt.com
>> michael at michaelshortt.com
>> 912-232-9390
>>
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>> Message: 31
>> Date: Tue, 21 May 2013 10:19:48 -0400
>> From: "Larry - Ohio Time Corp" <larry at ohiotimecorp.com>
>> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Tornado
>> To: "'Jim Gray'" <grayjim at att.net>, <detomaso at poca.com>
>> Message-ID: <20130521141904.69933834305 at mail.poca.com>
>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
>>
>> Jim,
>>
>> Thank God you and your family are ok. The house can be fixed.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Larry - Cleveland
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: detomaso-bounces at poca.com [mailto:detomaso-bounces at poca.com] On
> Behalf
>> Of Jim Gray
>> Sent: Tuesday, May 21, 2013 9:41 AM
>> To: detomaso at poca.com
>> Subject: [DeTomaso] Tornado
>>
>> Thanks for the prayers and good wishes from all of you.?
>>
>> The tornado went through South OKC/Moore about a mile or two south of my
>> neighborhood.? I'm on SW 118th in OKC and the storm went across on SW 134
>> and SW 149th.? Wife and I are OK.
>>
>> Unfortunately my daughter had lost the roof off her house on Sunday
> night.?
>> She and her family are now living at the Embassy in Norman, OK.
>>
>> Jim "feeling lucky" Gray
>> _______________________________________________
>>
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>> Message: 32
>> Date: Tue, 21 May 2013 09:53:51 -0500
>> From: Jerry Knotts <knottsj at galstar.com>
>> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] TORNADO IN OKLAHOMA
>> To: detomaso at poca.com
>> Message-ID: <519B8A7F.3050201 at galstar.com>
>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed
>>
>> Charles,
>>
>> The one that started in SkItook and went to Vinita came by about a mile
>> south of the house. The sheriff came by and said that there was a
>> tornado on the ground and coming our way. My wife and grandson went to
>> an inner closet in the house and I went outside to watch it go by on the
>> south side of the barns. It had lifted to about 200 feet by the time it
>> arrived and dropped quite a bit of hail. All the cars were either in
>> the garage or the barns.
>>
>> Have been lucky for a long time up here.
>> jerry
>>
>> On 5/21/2013 8:50 AM, cengles at cox.net wrote:
>>> Dear Dennis,
>>>
>>> All is well at the Pantera Research Institute by God's
> grace and dumb luck with Mother Nature. I *think* the other OKC Pantera
> owners survived unscathed, but I have yet to hear from all of them.
>>> Counting my blessings, Chuck Engles
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Mon, May 20, 2013 at 8:48 PM, Team Pantera wrote:
>>>> Doc You okay out there?> Tornado hit close to you or family?> MD>>
> Charles Engles <cengles at cox.net> wrote:>>> Dear Mark,>>>>>>
> Well done, sir.>>>>>> Warmest regards, Chuck
> Engles>>>>>>>> -----Original Message----->> From:
detomaso-bounces at poca.com
> [mailto:detomaso-bounces at poca.com] On >> Behalf>> Of mark skwarek>> Sent:
> Sunday, May 19, 2013 5:16 PM>> To: Mad Dog Antenucci; detomaso at poca.com;
Asa
> Jay Laughton; John >> Bentley>> Subject: [DeTomaso] NORC>>>> We have just
> arrived @ Sam's Town for the festivities. >> Had a great race. Hopefully
I
> was not DQ'ed at the start for >> excessive>> speed. >> After 10 miles, I
> smelled oil. Looking in the rear view mirror, all I >> could>> see was
oil.
> looking over my shoulder, I could see lots of smoke and >> oil>> flying
> around. Doing 138 mph at this time. I found that if I went >> below 115>>
> mph things were not too bad. I decided to press on, not wanting a >> DNF.
>>> I managed to fi
> ni
>> sh the race avg 117-118. (Will get results tonight).>> >> For the last
> mile I decided to abandon caution and do 138 mph at the >> finish>> line
> with smoke billowing out the rear. >> I had a great time and look foward
to
> doing it again, even if it is a >> 2600>> mile tow.>> >> Mark>> 5481>>
> _______________________________________________>>>> Detomaso Forum Managed
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>> Message: 33
>> Date: Tue, 21 May 2013 11:03:06 -0400
>> From: Rob Dumoulin <rob at dumoulins.net>
>> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] "California Car" - Valid Term?
>> To: Pantera - Michael Shortt <michael at michaelshortt.com>
>> Cc: DeTomaso Mail List <detomaso at poca.com>, Jerry Knotts
>> <knottsj at galstar.com>
>> Message-ID:
>> <CAEr4y_uVbVGKKs1DciPHCXcc1rx_Mifo-uyPPbOON+Ndo8upHg at mail.gmail.com>
>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
>>
>> My point exactly. I've walked away from two good BMW deals because they
>> were touted as CA Specials. Seriously, one was advertised that way and
> the
>> Carfax showed both were originally dealer prep and sold in CA.
>>
>> Rob
>>
>>
>> On Tue, May 21, 2013 at 10:07 AM, michael at michaelshortt.com <
>> michaelsavga at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> I have a recent story, last Friday to be exact.
>>>
>>> A one day project took me to Waycross, Georgia ( approx 3 miles west of
> BF
>>> Egypt )
>>>
>>> While there, my 2006 Ford Excursion V10 with 41K original miles died.
>>>
>>> First issue ever with this vehicle.
>>>
>>> I diagnosed the problem myself ( fuel pump) and called a tow truck.
>>>
>>> Went to the Ford dealer, thankfully this was very early in the day, as
> the
>>> cut off time to order parts
>>>
>>> was 11 am.
>>>
>>> So it could be driven from Albany. Georgia 3 hours further west.
>>>
>>> Went the pump arrived, the tech removed the tank, withdrew the old pump
>>> and
>>>
>>> BAM....my truck is a California Emissions equipped version, different
> fuel
>>> pump and wiring harness.
>>>
>>> To order a new one, would take 3 days, since NOBODY in Georgia keeps a
> CA
>>> pump in stock.
>>>
>>> I would be stranded in this town for three days.
>>>
>>> I looked at the new pump and the old pump and noticed that the top was
>>> different but the business end was the same,
>>>
>>> so, we took them both apart and switched the "guts" and it worked
>>> perfectly.
>>>
>>> No word to the wiser and the warranty is still intact.
>>>
>>> Now I know why Excursion #3 ( a 2006) gets the worst gas mileage of any
> of
>>> the three ( 2000, and 2003) that I have owned,
>>>
>>> I bought the other two new off the lot and bought this one used off eBay
>>> in FL, with 16K miles on it in 2009, and it was
>>>
>>> apparently from CA before that.
>>>
>>> Michael Shortt
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Tue, May 21, 2013 at 9:19 AM, Rob Dumoulin <rob at dumoulins.net> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Jerry's definition is what it means to me. When searching for a
> modern-day
>>>> car, I avoid anything that says "California" because of the setup/add
> ons
>>>> that came with it. Definitely a negative rather than a positive for
>>>> anybody outside of CA.
>>>>
>>>> Rob
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Mon, May 20, 2013 at 8:21 PM, Jerry Knotts <knottsj at galstar.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> I guess I always thought it meant underpowered smog pump "special"
>>>>> vehicle for sale only in the state of California. The rest of the
>>>>> country got the higher compression lower mileage version..
>>>>>
>>>>> jerry
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On 5/20/2013 4:32 PM, LS wrote:
>>>>>> Discussion point..."California Car" used to mean, dry, rust free,
> but
>>>>> maybe sun baked?
>>>>>> Does anyone even use this term anymore to describe vintage
> classics?
>>>>>> Wasn't this used back in the day when people drove their
>>>>> exotics/classics as regular transportation and the lack of moisture
> in
>>>>> California would imply a more favorable condition?
>>>>>> Nowadays, a classic car is a classic car whether from Buffalo, NY
> or
>>>> San
>>>>> Diego.
>>>>>> I haven't seen a vintage Detomaso, Lamborghini or Ferrari being
> driven
>>>>> in the rain in a decade.
>>>>>> Nowadays, these classics are only out in the best of
> conditions...so
>>>> it
>>>>> doesn't matter where it lives but what condition that particular car
> is
>>>> in
>>>>> at any given time.
>>>>>> As more classics are coveted and less are stored on carports and in
>>>>> backyards, this term is becoming a thing of the past.
>>>>>> At least in the Collector Car world...
>>>>>>
>>>>>> LS
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> central
>>>>>> wines-spirits est 1934
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 625 e street nw
>>>>>>
>>>>>> washington, dc 20004
>>>>>>
>>>>>> centralwines.com
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> facebook.com/CentralLiquors
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 202-737-2800
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>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
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>> ------------------------------
>>
>> Message: 34
>> Date: Tue, 21 May 2013 11:07:31 -0400
>> From: Rob Dumoulin <rob at dumoulins.net>
>> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Tornado
>> To: Larry - Ohio Time Corp <larry at ohiotimecorp.com>
>> Cc: DeTomaso Mail List <detomaso at poca.com>
>> Message-ID:
>> <CAEr4y_v6oedaXqVU1XBVRf_sexLFe5UP_r0hdZOtO0EbgL98GQ at mail.gmail.com>
>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
>>
>> Not to make light of the disaster and it is great to hear of no injuries
> to
>> our immediate brotherhood, but "the house can be fixed" reminds me of the
>> movie "The world according to Garp".
>>
>> You look at a house as it gets demolished by a twister and you say:
>>
>> "We'll take it. The chances of another twister hitting this house is
>> astronomical. We'll be safe here".
>>
>> Rob
>>
>>
>> On Tue, May 21, 2013 at 10:19 AM, Larry - Ohio Time Corp <
>> larry at ohiotimecorp.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Jim,
>>>
>>> Thank God you and your family are ok. The house can be fixed.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Larry - Cleveland
>>>
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: detomaso-bounces at poca.com [mailto:detomaso-bounces at poca.com] On
>>> Behalf
>>> Of Jim Gray
>>> Sent: Tuesday, May 21, 2013 9:41 AM
>>> To: detomaso at poca.com
>>> Subject: [DeTomaso] Tornado
>>>
>>> Thanks for the prayers and good wishes from all of you.
>>>
>>> The tornado went through South OKC/Moore about a mile or two south of my
>>> neighborhood. I'm on SW 118th in OKC and the storm went across on SW
> 134
>>> and SW 149th. Wife and I are OK.
>>>
>>> Unfortunately my daughter had lost the roof off her house on Sunday
> night.
>>> She and her family are now living at the Embassy in Norman, OK.
>>>
>>> Jim "feeling lucky" Gray
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>>>
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>> ------------------------------
>>
>> Message: 35
>> Date: Tue, 21 May 2013 08:37:12 -0700
>> From: Mike Drew <MikeLDrew at aol.com>
>> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Speedometer
>> To: Will Kooiman <will.kooiman at gmail.com>
>> Cc: "detomaso at poca.com" <detomaso at poca.com>,
>> "<shawkins777 at comcast.net>" <shawkins777 at comcast.net>
>> Message-ID: <C318565C-7CB7-4E97-8C72-FD27B5F1CEDA at aol.com>
>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8
>>
>> Also, it is easier to reach the nuts holding the speedo in by knelling on
> the ground and reaching in with your left hand.
>> Of course the easiest way is to have somebody else do it! Kids are
> especially adept at things like this and their smaller hands make it
easier.
> Wives or girlfriends will do in a pinch!
>> Mike
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>> On May 21, 2013, at 4:01, Will Kooiman <will.kooiman at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> There are 2 thumb screws that need to be removed. The speedo fits into
>>> the dash, and there is a metal bracket that holds it in from behind.
>>> There are two studs in the speedo. The studs fit through the bracket,
> and
>>> then the thumbscrews.
>>>
>>> I believe they have small lock washers on them too.
>>>
>>> Once you get the thumb screws removed, you can push the speedo out of
> the
>>> dash. It is wedged into the dash pretty tight, but it comes out.
>>>
>>> There is the speedo cable that Steve mentioned, plus there's the trip
>>> odometer reset cable. I *think* you can push the speedo out with both
>>> attached. It depends on the slack on the cables. Even if you can't, it
>>> is easier to remove them after pushing the speedo out a little.
>>> --
>>> Will
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On 5/20/13 2:57 PM, "shawkins777 at comcast.net" <shawkins777 at comcast.net>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> You can access the back and remove the cable with the speedometer in
> the
>>>> car.
>>>>
>>>> Steve
>>>>
>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>> From: "J?rn C. Olsen" <joernco at online.no>
>>>> To: detomaso at poca.com
>>>> Sent: Monday, May 20, 2013 10:46:46 AM
>>>> Subject: [DeTomaso] Speedometer
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Hi!
>>>>
>>>> What is the best way to get the speedometer out or access the back,
> need
>>>> to
>>>> check the cable?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> J.C.
>>>>
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>>>>
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>> ------------------------------
>>
>> Message: 36
>> Date: Tue, 21 May 2013 10:47:28 -0500
>> From: Jerry Knotts <knottsj at galstar.com>
>> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Tornado
>> To: detomaso at poca.com
>> Message-ID: <519B9710.50802 at galstar.com>
>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed
>>
>> Rob,
>>
>> Maybe Moore should be named Less. I has been hit consistently for the
>> last 20 years. The same area was hit in 1999 but it was a level 5 storm
>> instead of this level 4 storm. There have been one or two other major
>> storms in Moore and a few minor ones in the last twenty years. A minor
>> storm is pretty major if you are in it.
>>
>> jerry
>>
>> On 5/21/2013 10:07 AM, Rob Dumoulin wrote:
>>> Not to make light of the disaster and it is great to hear of no injuries
> to
>>> our immediate brotherhood, but "the house can be fixed" reminds me of
> the
>>> movie "The world according to Garp".
>>>
>>> You look at a house as it gets demolished by a twister and you say:
>>>
>>> "We'll take it. The chances of another twister hitting this house is
>>> astronomical. We'll be safe here".
>>>
>>> Rob
>>>
>>>
>>> On Tue, May 21, 2013 at 10:19 AM, Larry - Ohio Time Corp <
>>> larry at ohiotimecorp.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Jim,
>>>>
>>>> Thank God you and your family are ok. The house can be fixed.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Larry - Cleveland
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: detomaso-bounces at poca.com [mailto:detomaso-bounces at poca.com] On
>>>> Behalf
>>>> Of Jim Gray
>>>> Sent: Tuesday, May 21, 2013 9:41 AM
>>>> To: detomaso at poca.com
>>>> Subject: [DeTomaso] Tornado
>>>>
>>>> Thanks for the prayers and good wishes from all of you.
>>>>
>>>> The tornado went through South OKC/Moore about a mile or two south of
> my
>>>> neighborhood. I'm on SW 118th in OKC and the storm went across on SW
> 134
>>>> and SW 149th. Wife and I are OK.
>>>>
>>>> Unfortunately my daughter had lost the roof off her house on Sunday
> night.
>>>> She and her family are now living at the Embassy in Norman, OK.
>>>>
>>>> Jim "feeling lucky" Gray
>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>
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>>
>>
>> ------------------------------
>>
>> Message: 37
>> Date: Tue, 21 May 2013 12:01:31 -0400
>> From: "Larry - Ohio Time Corp" <larry at ohiotimecorp.com>
>> Subject: [DeTomaso] on this date
>> To: <detomaso at poca.com>
>> Message-ID: <20130521160046.7ADBF834305 at mail.poca.com>
>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
>>
>> Today, May 21, is the birthday of the speed limit. On this day in 1901,
>> Connecticut became the first state to regulate the speed of motor
vehicles
>> (12 mph city, 15 mph country). There had been speed limits for wagons
> since
>> 1652 and a speeding ticket was awarded to a New York City cab driver in
an
>> electric vehicle in 1899. Soon, many states followed suit, though the
last
>> state to put in a speed limit did so more than 30 years later. Another
>> interesting automotive history tidbit from This Day in History.
>>
>>
>>
>> Larry - Cleveland
>>
>>
>>
>> ------------------------------
>>
>> Message: 38
>> Date: Tue, 21 May 2013 09:48:33 -0700
>> From: "Stephen Nelson" <steve at snclocks.com>
>> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Tornado
>> To: "'Jerry Knotts'" <knottsj at galstar.com>, <detomaso at poca.com>
>> Message-ID: <E682219D72BF437BA63829FDAC4CD056 at XPS>
>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
>>
>> Funny thing about statistics - the statement that "You look at a house as
> it
>> gets demolished by a twister and you say: The chances of another twister
>> hitting this house is astronomical. We'll be safe here" is not very
>> realistic. Actually, once a twister hits, the chance of a second one
>> hitting is exactly the same for everywhere else nearby. Pity that. But,
>> the chance of two future twisters hitting the same place is astronomical.
>>
>> Bottom line, we moved to Washington three years ago. Our old house was
>> missed by 1/4 mile. Gads are we glad we moved.
>>
>> Stephen Nelson who is still looking for a great car
>>
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: detomaso-bounces at poca.com [mailto:detomaso-bounces at poca.com] On
> Behalf
>> Of Jerry Knotts
>> Sent: Tuesday, May 21, 2013 8:47 AM
>> To: detomaso at poca.com
>> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Tornado
>>
>> Rob,
>>
>> Maybe Moore should be named Less. I has been hit consistently for the
>> last 20 years. The same area was hit in 1999 but it was a level 5 storm
>> instead of this level 4 storm. There have been one or two other major
>> storms in Moore and a few minor ones in the last twenty years. A minor
>> storm is pretty major if you are in it.
>>
>> jerry
>>
>> On 5/21/2013 10:07 AM, Rob Dumoulin wrote:
>>> Not to make light of the disaster and it is great to hear of no injuries
>> to
>>> our immediate brotherhood, but "the house can be fixed" reminds me of
> the
>>> movie "The world according to Garp".
>>>
>>> You look at a house as it gets demolished by a twister and you say:
>>>
>>> "We'll take it. The chances of another twister hitting this house is
>>> astronomical. We'll be safe here".
>>>
>>> Rob
>>>
>>>
>>> On Tue, May 21, 2013 at 10:19 AM, Larry - Ohio Time Corp <
>>> larry at ohiotimecorp.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Jim,
>>>>
>>>> Thank God you and your family are ok. The house can be fixed.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Larry - Cleveland
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: detomaso-bounces at poca.com [mailto:detomaso-bounces at poca.com] On
>>>> Behalf
>>>> Of Jim Gray
>>>> Sent: Tuesday, May 21, 2013 9:41 AM
>>>> To: detomaso at poca.com
>>>> Subject: [DeTomaso] Tornado
>>>>
>>>> Thanks for the prayers and good wishes from all of you.
>>>>
>>>> The tornado went through South OKC/Moore about a mile or two south of
> my
>>>> neighborhood. I'm on SW 118th in OKC and the storm went across on SW
> 134
>>>> and SW 149th. Wife and I are OK.
>>>>
>>>> Unfortunately my daughter had lost the roof off her house on Sunday
>> night.
>>>> She and her family are now living at the Embassy in Norman, OK.
>>>>
>>>> Jim "feeling lucky" Gray
>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>
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>> ------------------------------
>>
>> Message: 39
>> Date: Tue, 21 May 2013 13:26:00 -0400
>> From: Rob Dumoulin <rob at dumoulins.net>
>> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Tornado
>> To: Jerry Knotts <knottsj at galstar.com>
>> Cc: DeTomaso Mail List <detomaso at poca.com>
>> Message-ID:
>> <CAEr4y_uBim1ATheQ_Z6TWLGNC-idJ_3DsYfY-qJ=Vi54Q_=dYw at mail.gmail.com>
>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
>>
>> Hence the irony in my statement. In Florida, I've lived through three
>> direct (eye passing over) hurricanes and too many indirect hurricanes and
>> tropical storms to count. I know that if you live in a well built house
>> with adequate elevation to avoid flooding or storm surge and are
prepared,
>> they become inconvenient but not life threatening.
>>
>> Tornadoes, however, strike with little notice and the only elevation you
>> can plan for is to be underground. In Florida though, if you dig 5 feet
to
>> make a shelter, you hit water/mud instead.
>>
>> Rob
>>
>> On Tue, May 21, 2013 at 11:47 AM, Jerry Knotts <knottsj at galstar.com>
> wrote:
>>> Rob,
>>>
>>> Maybe Moore should be named Less. I has been hit consistently for the
>>> last 20 years. The same area was hit in 1999 but it was a level 5 storm
>>> instead of this level 4 storm. There have been one or two other major
>>> storms in Moore and a few minor ones in the last twenty years. A minor
>>> storm is pretty major if you are in it.
>>>
>>> jerry
>>>
>>> On 5/21/2013 10:07 AM, Rob Dumoulin wrote:
>>>> Not to make light of the disaster and it is great to hear of no
> injuries
>>> to
>>>> our immediate brotherhood, but "the house can be fixed" reminds me of
> the
>>>> movie "The world according to Garp".
>>>>
>>>> You look at a house as it gets demolished by a twister and you say:
>>>>
>>>> "We'll take it. The chances of another twister hitting this house is
>>>> astronomical. We'll be safe here".
>>>>
>>>> Rob
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Tue, May 21, 2013 at 10:19 AM, Larry - Ohio Time Corp <
>>>> larry at ohiotimecorp.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Jim,
>>>>>
>>>>> Thank God you and your family are ok. The house can be fixed.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Larry - Cleveland
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>> From: detomaso-bounces at poca.com [mailto:detomaso-bounces at poca.com] On
>>>>> Behalf
>>>>> Of Jim Gray
>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, May 21, 2013 9:41 AM
>>>>> To: detomaso at poca.com
>>>>> Subject: [DeTomaso] Tornado
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks for the prayers and good wishes from all of you.
>>>>>
>>>>> The tornado went through South OKC/Moore about a mile or two south of
> my
>>>>> neighborhood. I'm on SW 118th in OKC and the storm went across on SW
>>> 134
>>>>> and SW 149th. Wife and I are OK.
>>>>>
>>>>> Unfortunately my daughter had lost the roof off her house on Sunday
>>> night.
>>>>> She and her family are now living at the Embassy in Norman, OK.
>>>>>
>>>>> Jim "feeling lucky" Gray
>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>>
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>> ------------------------------
>>
>> Message: 40
>> Date: Tue, 21 May 2013 20:23:04 +0200
>> From: " J?rn C. Olsen " <joernco at online.no>
>> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Speedometer
>> To: "'Mike Drew'" <MikeLDrew at aol.com>, "'Will Kooiman'"
>> <will.kooiman at gmail.com>
>> Cc: detomaso at poca.com, shawkins777 at comcast.net
>> Message-ID: <000001ce5650$3cdbe720$b693b560$@online.no>
>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
>>
>> Thanks guys!
>> I can`t possibly understand how someone can get their hands up there if
> your not a snake.
>> J.C.
>>
>> -----Opprinnelig melding-----
>> Fra: detomaso-bounces at poca.com [mailto:detomaso-bounces at poca.com] P?
vegne
> av Mike Drew
>> Sendt: 21. mai 2013 17:37
>> Til: Will Kooiman
>> Kopi: detomaso at poca.com; <shawkins777 at comcast.net>
>> Emne: Re: [DeTomaso] Speedometer
>>
>> Also, it is easier to reach the nuts holding the speedo in by knelling on
> the ground and reaching in with your left hand.
>> Of course the easiest way is to have somebody else do it! Kids are
> especially adept at things like this and their smaller hands make it
easier.
> Wives or girlfriends will do in a pinch!
>> Mike
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>> On May 21, 2013, at 4:01, Will Kooiman <will.kooiman at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> There are 2 thumb screws that need to be removed. The speedo fits
>>> into the dash, and there is a metal bracket that holds it in from
> behind.
>>> There are two studs in the speedo. The studs fit through the bracket,
>>> and then the thumbscrews.
>>>
>>> I believe they have small lock washers on them too.
>>>
>>> Once you get the thumb screws removed, you can push the speedo out of
>>> the dash. It is wedged into the dash pretty tight, but it comes out.
>>>
>>> There is the speedo cable that Steve mentioned, plus there's the trip
>>> odometer reset cable. I *think* you can push the speedo out with both
>>> attached. It depends on the slack on the cables. Even if you can't,
>>> it is easier to remove them after pushing the speedo out a little.
>>> --
>>> Will
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On 5/20/13 2:57 PM, "shawkins777 at comcast.net"
>>> <shawkins777 at comcast.net>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> You can access the back and remove the cable with the speedometer in
>>>> the car.
>>>>
>>>> Steve
>>>>
>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>> From: "J?rn C. Olsen" <joernco at online.no>
>>>> To: detomaso at poca.com
>>>> Sent: Monday, May 20, 2013 10:46:46 AM
>>>> Subject: [DeTomaso] Speedometer
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Hi!
>>>>
>>>> What is the best way to get the speedometer out or access the back,
>>>> need to check the cable?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> J.C.
>>>>
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>>>>
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>> Message: 41
>> Date: Tue, 21 May 2013 21:46:05 +0300
>> From: "eb0711 at kolumbus.fi" <eb0711 at kolumbus.fi>
>> Subject: [DeTomaso] Engine stall under hard braking
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>> I have a practically stock engine, but with holley vacuum secondary
>> carb. I've been doing couple of hard brakings now that I have rebuilt
>> the brakes, and love the brake performance. However I've succeeded to
>> stall the engine a few times under braking.
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>> Thinking it could be carb and fuel slosh related, but where to begin?
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>> Cheers,
>> Janne
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