[DeTomaso] DeTomaso Digest, Vol 107, Issue 21
MDBell
davidabell at att.net
Tue May 21 23:55:27 EDT 2013
George,
Welcome back!
As far as the Detomaso email list goes, you pretty much get what you get.
There is a tremendous amount of knowledge and expertise on just about
anything to do with any Detomaso vehicle. If you have a question or problem
with a Detomaso vehicle then this is the place to be. And while the
intended focus of the email list is clearly Detomaso, list topics often end
up drifting here and there and sometimes go absolutely nowhere. There are
no real posting rules other than everyone is encouraged to play nice.
There are a number of Detomaso list options though. If you don't like a
specific thread then just delete the emails with that subject lines as they
arrive - you don't have to even read them. If you don't like the volume of
email traffic then you can subscribe to the daily digest only (a single
email with a summary of all the day's email). If you don't want any
Detomaso email at all then you can cancel it entirely and then just log on
to the archives and browse as long and as often as you like - daily,
monthly, yearly, etc.
Good luck,
Dave
-----Original Message-----
From: detomaso-bounces at poca.com [mailto:detomaso-bounces at poca.com] On Behalf
Of willican44 at cox.net
Sent: Tuesday, May 21, 2013 6:12 PM
To: detomaso at poca.com
Cc: detomaso-request at poca.com
Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] DeTomaso Digest, Vol 107, Issue 21
ATTN!!! I am receiving the attached email every day and this is not
necessary or desired. I thought I signed up for a newsletter, not an empty
repetitive and a pain in the butt email.
Secondly, as an old newbie (75 and bought my Pantera in Nov as an attempt to
start slowing down in life) computer directions are not easily followed. I
will only follow one or two directions from anyone and then find it
necessary to improvise. And if directions are not explicit I find it very
easy to move on to other matters.
So, I believe I'd enjoy receiving a Pantera centered newsletter, but I'm not
going to play computer games in order to receive one.
Regards,
George Williams
Oh, and The Pantera is slowing me down; in the shop for new brakes, in the
shop for new exhaust pipes cause the brake job pulled down the old ones; in
the shop for a hitorque starter, back in the shop for a new master cylinder.
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> Today's Topics:
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> 1. Re: heater valve (Ken Green)
> 2. Re: heater valve (John Buckman)
> 3. Re: Master clutch hydraulic cylinder in Phoenix (John Buckman)
> 4. NPC: Tornados' (shawkins777 at comcast.net)
> 5. "California Car" - Valid Term? (LS)
> 6. Re: "California Car" - Valid Term? (Ken Green)
> 7. POCA Track Day at Inde Motorsports Ranch Willcox, Arizona
> 6/8/2013 (JF)
> 8. Re: NPC: Tornados' ( Charles Engles)
> 9. Re: POCA Track Day at Inde Motorsports Ranch Willcox, Arizona
> 6/8/2013 ( Charles Engles)
> 10. Re: NPC: Tornados' (shawkins777 at comcast.net)
> 11. Re: NPC: Tornados' (Larry - Ohio Time Corp)
> 12. Vredestein Tires (Curt Hall)
> 13. Re: heater valve (Asa Jay Laughton)
> 14. Re: "California Car" - Valid Term? (Jerry Knotts)
> 15. Re: heater valve (Forest Goodhart)
> 16. Re: NPC: Tornados' (JPEP33 at aol.com)
> 17. Fw: Reader Find: 1968 Ford Torino GT (Curt Hall)
> 18. Re: Fw: Reader Find: 1968 Ford Torino GT
> (michael at michaelshortt.com)
> 19. Re: Fw: Reader Find: 1968 Ford Torino GT (gow2 at rc-tech.net)
> 20. Re: "California Car" - Valid Term? (Pantdino)
> 21. Re: Vredestein Tires (Pantdino)
> 22. Re: Vredestein Tires (Arno Keijzer)
> 23. Re: Vredestein Tires (Jack Donahue)
> 24. Re: Speedometer (Will Kooiman)
> 25. Re: Fw: Reader Find: 1968 Ford Torino GT (Mike Thomas)
> 26. Re: Fw: Reader Find: 1968 Ford Torino GT (B Hower)
> 27. Re: "California Car" - Valid Term? (Rob Dumoulin)
> 28. Tornado (Jim Gray)
> 29. Re: TORNADO IN OKLAHOMA (cengles at cox.net)
> 30. Re: "California Car" - Valid Term? (michael at michaelshortt.com)
> 31. Re: Tornado (Larry - Ohio Time Corp)
> 32. Re: TORNADO IN OKLAHOMA (Jerry Knotts)
> 33. Re: "California Car" - Valid Term? (Rob Dumoulin)
> 34. Re: Tornado (Rob Dumoulin)
> 35. Re: Speedometer (Mike Drew)
> 36. Re: Tornado (Jerry Knotts)
> 37. on this date (Larry - Ohio Time Corp)
> 38. Re: Tornado (Stephen Nelson)
> 39. Re: Tornado (Rob Dumoulin)
> 40. Re: Speedometer ( J?rn C. Olsen )
> 41. Engine stall under hard braking (eb0711 at kolumbus.fi)
>
>
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> Message: 1
> Date: Mon, 20 May 2013 12:13:49 -0700 (PDT)
> From: Ken Green <kenn_green at yahoo.com>
> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] heater valve
> To: John Buckman <jb841 at cox.net>, "detomaso at poca.com"
> <detomaso at poca.com>
> Message-ID:
> <1369077229.57309.YahooMailNeo at web162506.mail.bf1.yahoo.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1
>
> This may be helpful:
> ?
> http://www.panteraplace.com/page180.htm
> ?
> ?
>
>
> ________________________________
> From: John Buckman <jb841 at cox.net>
> To: detomaso at poca.com
> Sent: Monday, May 20, 2013 11:29 AM
> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] heater valve
>
>
> I found the post on the PI forum.? You need to be logged in to see the
pics.?
>
> Basically, you disassemble the valve and thread the packing end of the
valve body with a 3/8"-24 die.? Purchase
> a 3/16" (NOT 1/8" as stated in the PI forum post) compression fitting and
some teflon valve packing material at
> your favorite DIY store.? You will only need the nut from the compression
fitting.? Assemble the valve stem,
> compression nut and packing, and reassemble the valve.
>
> John
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> Message: 2
> Date: Mon, 20 May 2013 13:13:04 -0700
> From: John Buckman <jb841 at cox.net>
> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] heater valve
> To: Ken Green <kenn_green at yahoo.com>
> Cc: "detomaso at poca.com" <detomaso at poca.com>
> Message-ID: <23A1860C-ED9D-4056-9D6E-A108154372AF at cox.net>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
>
> That is the later style valve, which is different.
>
> John
>
>
>
> On May 20, 2013, at 12:13 PM, Ken Green wrote:
>
> > This may be helpful:
> >
> > http://www.panteraplace.com/page180.htm
> >
> >
> >
> > From: John Buckman <jb841 at cox.net>
> > To: detomaso at poca.com
> > Sent: Monday, May 20, 2013 11:29 AM
> > Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] heater valve
> >
> > I found the post on the PI forum. You need to be logged in to see the
pics.
> >
> > Basically, you disassemble the valve and thread the packing end of the
valve body with a 3/8"-24 die. Purchase
> > a 3/16" (NOT 1/8" as stated in the PI forum post) compression fitting
and some teflon valve packing material at
> > your favorite DIY store. You will only need the nut from the
compression fitting. Assemble the valve stem,
> > compression nut and packing, and reassemble the valve.
> >
> > John
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> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 3
> Date: Mon, 20 May 2013 13:27:16 -0700
> From: "John Buckman" <jb841 at cox.net>
> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Master clutch hydraulic cylinder in Phoenix
> To: <detomaso at poca.com>
> Cc: chrisvkimbal at msn.com
> Message-ID: <000001ce5598$6bd78740$438695c0$@cox.net>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
>
> I have a clutch master cylinder sitting on my bench, brand new. I'll
bring
>
> it with me in case nobody else arrives with one. Now all we have to do is
>
> find the person with the 9" double jointed fingers to install it.
>
>
>
> >>>What we don't know is if Brian's car has the clutch pedal effort
> reduction kit installed. This will
>
> dictate which pushrod is needed (long for no kit; short with kit). If you
> "flat rate" the clutch master
>
> cyl change, pushrod length won't matter, as the original push rod will be
> reused.
>
>
>
> Also, we don't know if Brian's clutch master cyl is an original type or an
> aftermarket, like a CNC.
>
>
>
> I'm already in Chandler (arrived on Sat), but I won't be checking in at
WHP
> until tomorrow (Wed).
>
> I have a clutch master cyl (the "good" one), long and short pushrods, and
a
> clutch slave cyl that I
>
> brought with me, "just in case".
>
>
>
> John
>
> 760 420 4036
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 4
> Date: Mon, 20 May 2013 21:18:32 +0000 (UTC)
> From: shawkins777 at comcast.net
> Subject: [DeTomaso] NPC: Tornados'
> To: "forum, Pantera" <detomaso at poca.com>
> Message-ID:
>
<678027916.187668.1369084712226.JavaMail.root at sz0134a.emeryville.ca.mail.com
cast.net>
>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8
>
> I pray that our friends in Oklahoma are OK.
>
> Steve
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 5
> Date: Mon, 20 May 2013 14:32:30 -0700 (PDT)
> From: LS <lashdeep at yahoo.com>
> Subject: [DeTomaso] "California Car" - Valid Term?
> To: Detomaso List <detomaso at poca.com>
> Message-ID:
> <1369085550.85342.YahooMailNeo at web120205.mail.ne1.yahoo.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1
>
> Discussion point..."California Car" used to mean, dry, rust free, but
maybe sun baked?
>
> Does anyone even use this term anymore to describe vintage classics?
>
> Wasn't this used back in the day when people drove their exotics/classics
as regular transportation and the lack of moisture in California would imply
a more favorable condition?
>
> Nowadays, a classic car is a classic car whether from Buffalo, NY or San
Diego.
>
> I haven't seen a vintage Detomaso, Lamborghini or Ferrari being driven in
the rain in a decade.
>
> Nowadays, these classics are only out in the best of conditions...so it
doesn't matter where it lives but what condition that particular car is in
at any given time.
>
> As more classics are coveted and less are stored on carports and in
backyards, this term is becoming a thing of the past.
>
> At least in the Collector Car world...
>
> LS
>
>
> ?
>
>
>
> central
> wines-spirits?? est 1934
>
>
> 625 e street nw
>
> washington, dc 20004
>
> centralwines.com
>
>
> facebook.com/CentralLiquors
>
>
> 202-737-2800
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 6
> Date: Mon, 20 May 2013 14:39:55 -0700 (PDT)
> From: Ken Green <kenn_green at yahoo.com>
> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] "California Car" - Valid Term?
> To: LS <lashdeep at yahoo.com>, Detomaso List <detomaso at poca.com>
> Message-ID:
> <1369085995.99355.YahooMailNeo at web162503.mail.bf1.yahoo.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1
>
> A lot of "California Panteras" were parked in beach cities.? The moist
salt air rusts everything it can get to.
> ?
> Ken
>
>
> ________________________________
> From: LS <lashdeep at yahoo.com>
> To: Detomaso List <detomaso at poca.com>
> Sent: Monday, May 20, 2013 2:32 PM
> Subject: [DeTomaso] "California Car" - Valid Term?
>
>
> Discussion point..."California Car" used to mean, dry, rust free, but
maybe sun baked?
>
> Does anyone even use this term anymore to describe vintage classics?
>
> Wasn't this used back in the day when people drove their exotics/classics
as regular transportation and the lack of moisture in California would imply
a more favorable condition?
>
> Nowadays, a classic car is a classic car whether from Buffalo, NY or San
Diego.
>
> I haven't seen a vintage Detomaso, Lamborghini or Ferrari being driven in
the rain in a decade.
>
> Nowadays, these classics are only out in the best of conditions...so it
doesn't matter where it lives but what condition that particular car is in
at any given time.
>
> As more classics are coveted and less are stored on carports and in
backyards, this term is becoming a thing of the past.
>
> At least in the Collector Car world...
>
> LS
>
>
> ?
>
>
>
> central
> wines-spirits?? est 1934
>
>
> 625 e street nw
>
> washington, dc 20004
>
> centralwines.com
>
>
> facebook.com/CentralLiquors
>
>
> 202-737-2800
> _______________________________________________
>
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>
> Message: 7
> Date: Mon, 20 May 2013 14:53:41 -0700
> From: "JF" <pantera at vtc.net>
> Subject: [DeTomaso] POCA Track Day at Inde Motorsports Ranch Willcox,
> Arizona 6/8/2013
> To: <detomaso at poca.com>
> Message-ID: <6CD6E12E335541A7BDC437AFD432FDEB at jfyyq6giaos5ui>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
>
> The owners of the Inde Motorsports Ranch in Willcox Arizona have made a
special offer to the Pantera Owner's Club of America. On Saturday June 8,
2013 we have an official track day from 9:00 am to 5:00 pm for only $120.00
per driver. Lunch will be provided for the drivers and extra lunches will
only be $10.00. At this time we only have four Panteras signed up for the
event and we have a 30 car limit. I have a number of non Pantera owners that
are filling out the field, but will have room for at least five more
Panteras before I have to close the RSVP date of May 24, 2013.
>
> I know this is a short notice and it is just after the big fun rally in
Phoenix last month. Contact me through this forum for more details if you
are interested.
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 8
> Date: Mon, 20 May 2013 17:02:05 -0500
> From: " Charles Engles" <cengles at cox.net>
> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] NPC: Tornados'
> To: <shawkins777 at comcast.net>, "'forum, Pantera'"
<detomaso at poca.com>
> Message-ID: <001501ce55a5$aa4386c0$feca9440$@net>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
>
> Dear Steve,
>
>
> Thanks for the prayers. We seem to have survived
unscathed
> on day two of the Tornado Siege. The PRI remains standing.
>
> However, the impact of today's tornado was in the locale of
> Jim Gray and Todd Reid. I have not heard from them...... My fingers
are
> crossed and I, too, am praying that they and their families are unhurt.
>
>
> Warmest regards, Chuck Engles
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: detomaso-bounces at poca.com [mailto:detomaso-bounces at poca.com] On
Behalf
> Of shawkins777 at comcast.net
> Sent: Monday, May 20, 2013 4:19 PM
> To: forum, Pantera
> Subject: [DeTomaso] NPC: Tornados'
>
> I pray that our friends in Oklahoma are OK.
>
> Steve
> _______________________________________________
>
> Detomaso Forum Managed by POCA
>
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>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 9
> Date: Mon, 20 May 2013 17:04:30 -0500
> From: " Charles Engles" <cengles at cox.net>
> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] POCA Track Day at Inde Motorsports Ranch
> Willcox, Arizona 6/8/2013
> To: "'JF'" <pantera at vtc.net>, <detomaso at poca.com>
> Message-ID: <001d01ce55a6$011e7b30$035b7190$@net>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
>
> Dear Jim,
>
>
> I have a feeling that you were instrumental in this event.
> Nice work my friend. I hope the Arizona Pantera owners take advantage of
> this excellent opportunity.
>
>
> Warmest regards, Chuck Engles
>
>
> PS: I hope you get to exercise your re-powered Pantera. Vroom. Vroom.
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: detomaso-bounces at poca.com [mailto:detomaso-bounces at poca.com] On
Behalf
> Of JF
> Sent: Monday, May 20, 2013 4:54 PM
> To: detomaso at poca.com
> Subject: [DeTomaso] POCA Track Day at Inde Motorsports Ranch Willcox,
> Arizona 6/8/2013
>
> The owners of the Inde Motorsports Ranch in Willcox Arizona have made a
> special offer to the Pantera Owner's Club of America. On Saturday June 8,
> 2013 we have an official track day from 9:00 am to 5:00 pm for only
$120.00
> per driver. Lunch will be provided for the drivers and extra lunches will
> only be $10.00. At this time we only have four Panteras signed up for the
> event and we have a 30 car limit. I have a number of non Pantera owners
that
> are filling out the field, but will have room for at least five more
> Panteras before I have to close the RSVP date of May 24, 2013.
>
> I know this is a short notice and it is just after the big fun rally in
> Phoenix last month. Contact me through this forum for more details if you
> are interested.
> _______________________________________________
>
> Detomaso Forum Managed by POCA
>
> DeTomaso mailing list
> DeTomaso at poca.com
> http://poca.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 10
> Date: Mon, 20 May 2013 22:29:22 +0000 (UTC)
> From: shawkins777 at comcast.net
> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] NPC: Tornados'
> Cc: Pantera' 'forum <detomaso at poca.com>
> Message-ID:
>
<1420988416.190323.1369088962374.JavaMail.root at sz0134a.emeryville.ca.mail.co
mcast.net>
>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8
>
> I pray for them and all those that have been impacted by the storms today.
>
> Steve
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Charles Engles" <cengles at cox.net>
> To: shawkins777 at comcast.net, "Pantera' 'forum" <detomaso at poca.com>
> Sent: Monday, May 20, 2013 5:02:05 PM
> Subject: RE: [DeTomaso] NPC: Tornados'
>
> Dear Steve,
>
>
> Thanks for the prayers. We seem to have survived unscathed
> on day two of the Tornado Siege. The PRI remains standing.
>
> However, the impact of today's tornado was in the locale of
> Jim Gray and Todd Reid. I have not heard from them...... My fingers are
> crossed and I, too, am praying that they and their families are unhurt.
>
>
> Warmest regards, Chuck Engles
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: detomaso-bounces at poca.com [mailto:detomaso-bounces at poca.com] On
Behalf
> Of shawkins777 at comcast.net
> Sent: Monday, May 20, 2013 4:19 PM
> To: forum, Pantera
> Subject: [DeTomaso] NPC: Tornados'
>
> I pray that our friends in Oklahoma are OK.
>
> Steve
> _______________________________________________
>
> Detomaso Forum Managed by POCA
>
> DeTomaso mailing list
> DeTomaso at poca.com
> http://poca.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 11
> Date: Mon, 20 May 2013 18:34:25 -0400
> From: "Larry - Ohio Time Corp" <larry at ohiotimecorp.com>
> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] NPC: Tornados'
> To: <shawkins777 at comcast.net>
> Cc: 'Pantera' 'forum' <detomaso at poca.com>
> Message-ID: <20130520223341.E6184834311 at mail.poca.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
>
> Amen, it is so hard to see all the destruction on the news day after day.
>
>
>
>
> Larry - Cleveland
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: detomaso-bounces at poca.com [mailto:detomaso-bounces at poca.com] On
Behalf
> Of shawkins777 at comcast.net
> Sent: Monday, May 20, 2013 6:29 PM
> Cc: Pantera' 'forum
> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] NPC: Tornados'
>
> I pray for them and all those that have been impacted by the storms today.
>
> Steve
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Charles Engles" <cengles at cox.net>
> To: shawkins777 at comcast.net, "Pantera' 'forum" <detomaso at poca.com>
> Sent: Monday, May 20, 2013 5:02:05 PM
> Subject: RE: [DeTomaso] NPC: Tornados'
>
> Dear Steve,
>
>
> Thanks for the prayers. We seem to have survived unscathed on day two of
the
> Tornado Siege. The PRI remains standing.
>
> However, the impact of today's tornado was in the locale of Jim Gray and
> Todd Reid. I have not heard from them...... My fingers are crossed and I,
> too, am praying that they and their families are unhurt.
>
>
> Warmest regards, Chuck Engles
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: detomaso-bounces at poca.com [mailto:detomaso-bounces at poca.com] On
Behalf
> Of shawkins777 at comcast.net
> Sent: Monday, May 20, 2013 4:19 PM
> To: forum, Pantera
> Subject: [DeTomaso] NPC: Tornados'
>
> I pray that our friends in Oklahoma are OK.
>
> Steve
> _______________________________________________
>
> Detomaso Forum Managed by POCA
>
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> _______________________________________________
>
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>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 12
> Date: Mon, 20 May 2013 15:45:02 -0700 (PDT)
> From: Curt Hall <cuvee at sbcglobal.net>
> Subject: [DeTomaso] Vredestein Tires
> To: detomaso at poca.com
> Message-ID:
> <1369089902.95597.YahooMailClassic at web181302.mail.ne1.yahoo.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1
>
> Anybody know much about these tires? Vredestein tires, I believe are made
in the UK. They have a good looking tire?315x35x17 Y rating and a 235 or 245
for the front. Seems to be a reasonable priced tire?
> ?
> Any feed back...good or bad?
> ?
> Curt?
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 13
> Date: Mon, 20 May 2013 16:15:07 -0700
> From: "Asa Jay Laughton"<asajay at asajay.com>
> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] heater valve
> To: MikeLDrew at aol.com, forestg at att.net, detomaso at POCA.com
> Message-ID: <345b3bbc-9742-4b31-9325-84c9d14005d7 at blur>
> Content-Type: text/plain; Format="Flowed"; DelSp="Yes";
> charset="US-ASCII"
>
> I don't recall seeing any receipt from the original owner having replaced
> the heater control valve. Are you certain what I have is an aftermarket
> valve?
>
> Asa
>
> Sent using Jedi mind tricks.
>
> -----Original message-----
> From: MikeLDrew at aol.com
> To: forestg at att.net, detomaso at POCA.com
> Sent: Mon, May 20, 2013 17:20:27 GMT+00:00
> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] heater valve
>
>
> In a message dated 5/19/13 21 52 25, forestg at att.net writes:
>
>
> > Actually that is not a compression fitting, i ia a flare fitting. The
> > valve Asa
> > showed is a rotary style valve whereas the one you show is a plunger
type.
> >
>
> >>>Ah, right you are! Thanks for the clarification!
>
> I confess I hadn't actually looked at AJ's photos when I replied. Those
> rotary valves are aftermarket replacements, and are notorious for working
> well for only a fixed time. Lori has one in her car and it is completely
> frozen. With considerable effort, it can be opened by hand (that is, by
> reaching under the dash and pushing on the valve with your thumb, leaving
a
> deep
> indentation in the thumb for some time). It can be closed with the
cable,
> but the cable isn't strong enough to open it. The 'fix' for now is to
just
>
> leave the valve open all the time, and control the temperature in the
cabin
> by opening or closing the manual shutoff valves in the engine bay, which
are
>
> positioned to be very easy to reach from above.
>
> Besides my NOS Ford Pantera heater valve, I also have a vendor-sourced
> replacement valve. I bought it more than 20 years ago but have yet to
get
> around to plumbing my heater. I believe the stock Pantera valves were no
> longer available even back then, and this was the work-around replacement.
> If
> my memory is correct, it was purported to be an OEM Longchamp valve. It
> works in basically the same fashion, but I also seem to recall that it
works
>
> backwards--that is, when it is installed in the car, due to its
orientation,
>
> it functions backwards. That is, when you put the dash lever to 'hot',
it
> closes the valve, and vice-versa?
>
> Here's a photo:
>
> http://www.poca.com/index.php/gallery/?g2_itemId=40284
>
> Mike
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> Message: 14
> Date: Mon, 20 May 2013 19:21:22 -0500
> From: Jerry Knotts <knottsj at galstar.com>
> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] "California Car" - Valid Term?
> To: detomaso at poca.com
> Message-ID: <519ABE02.3000002 at galstar.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed
>
> I guess I always thought it meant underpowered smog pump "special"
> vehicle for sale only in the state of California. The rest of the
> country got the higher compression lower mileage version..
>
> jerry
>
>
> On 5/20/2013 4:32 PM, LS wrote:
> > Discussion point..."California Car" used to mean, dry, rust free, but
maybe sun baked?
> >
> > Does anyone even use this term anymore to describe vintage classics?
> >
> > Wasn't this used back in the day when people drove their
exotics/classics as regular transportation and the lack of moisture in
California would imply a more favorable condition?
> >
> > Nowadays, a classic car is a classic car whether from Buffalo, NY or San
Diego.
> >
> > I haven't seen a vintage Detomaso, Lamborghini or Ferrari being driven
in the rain in a decade.
> >
> > Nowadays, these classics are only out in the best of conditions...so it
doesn't matter where it lives but what condition that particular car is in
at any given time.
> >
> > As more classics are coveted and less are stored on carports and in
backyards, this term is becoming a thing of the past.
> >
> > At least in the Collector Car world...
> >
> > LS
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > central
> > wines-spirits est 1934
> >
> >
> > 625 e street nw
> >
> > washington, dc 20004
> >
> > centralwines.com
> >
> >
> > facebook.com/CentralLiquors
> >
> >
> > 202-737-2800
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> Message: 15
> Date: Mon, 20 May 2013 17:29:02 -0700 (PDT)
> From: Forest Goodhart <forestg at att.net>
> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] heater valve
> To: detomaso at POCA.com
> Message-ID:
> <1369096142.22368.YahooMailRC at web180904.mail.ne1.yahoo.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1
>
> My guess is that the valve in Asa's car is an early production valve not
listed
> in the parts books. Tech bulletin 9, article 77 changes the existing valve
to
> part number D36Y-18495-A?which is a push/pull type as opposed to rotary.
> Original part number would have a D16Y prefix.
> Just my guess.
> Forest
>
>
>
>
> ________________________________
> From: Asa Jay Laughton <asajay at asajay.com>
> To: MikeLDrew at aol.com; forestg at att.net; detomaso at POCA.com
> Sent: Mon, May 20, 2013 4:15:06 PM
> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] heater valve
>
> I don't recall seeing any receipt from the original owner having replaced?
> the heater control valve.? Are you certain what I have is an aftermarket?
> valve?
>
> Asa
>
> Sent using Jedi mind tricks.
>
> -----Original message-----
> From: MikeLDrew at aol.com
> To: forestg at att.net,? detomaso at POCA.com
> Sent: Mon, May 20, 2013 17:20:27 GMT+00:00
> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] heater valve
>
>
> In a message dated 5/19/13 21 52 25, forestg at att.net writes:
>
>
> > Actually that is not a compression fitting, i ia a flare fitting. The
> > valve Asa
> > showed is a rotary style valve whereas the one you show is a plunger
type.
> >
>
> >>>Ah, right you are!? Thanks for the clarification!
>
> I confess I hadn't actually looked at AJ's photos when I replied.? Those
> rotary valves are aftermarket replacements, and are notorious for working
> well for only a fixed time.? Lori has one in her car and it is completely
> frozen.? With considerable effort, it can be opened by hand (that is, by
> reaching under the dash and pushing on the valve with your thumb, leaving
a?
> deep
> indentation in the thumb for some time).? It can be closed with the cable,
> but the cable isn't strong enough to open it.? The 'fix' for now is to
just?
>
> leave the valve open all the time, and control the temperature in the
cabin
> by opening or closing the manual shutoff valves in the engine bay, which
are?
>
> positioned to be very easy to reach from above.
>
> Besides my NOS Ford Pantera heater valve, I also have a vendor-sourced
> replacement valve.? I bought it more than 20 years ago but have yet to get
> around to plumbing my heater.? I believe the stock Pantera valves were no
> longer available even back then, and this was the work-around
replacement.? ?
> If
> my memory is correct, it was purported to be an OEM Longchamp valve.? It
> works in basically the same fashion, but I also seem to recall that it
works?
>
> backwards--that is, when it is installed in the car, due to its
orientation,?
>
> it functions backwards.? That is, when you put the dash lever to 'hot', it
> closes the valve, and vice-versa?
>
> Here's a photo:
>
> http://www.poca.com/index.php/gallery/?g2_itemId=40284
>
> Mike
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> Message: 16
> Date: Mon, 20 May 2013 20:40:40 -0400 (EDT)
> From: JPEP33 at aol.com
> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] NPC: Tornados'
> To: shawkins777 at comcast.net
> Cc: detomaso at poca.com
> Message-ID: <279fb.4cdfd840.3ecc1c88 at aol.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII"
>
> Amen and ditto!
>
> JP-Texas
>
>
> In a message dated 5/20/2013 5:56:31 P.M. Central Daylight Time,
> shawkins777 at comcast.net writes:
>
> I pray for them and all those that have been impacted by the storms
today.
>
>
> Steve
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Charles Engles" <cengles at cox.net>
> To: shawkins777 at comcast.net, "Pantera' 'forum" <detomaso at poca.com>
> Sent: Monday, May 20, 2013 5:02:05 PM
> Subject: RE: [DeTomaso] NPC: Tornados'
>
> Dear Steve,
>
>
> Thanks for the prayers. We seem to have survived unscathed
> on day two of the Tornado Siege. The PRI remains standing.
>
> However, the impact of today's tornado was in the locale of
> Jim Gray and Todd Reid. I have not heard from them...... My fingers are
> crossed and I, too, am praying that they and their families are unhurt.
>
>
> Warmest regards, Chuck Engles
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: detomaso-bounces at poca.com [mailto:detomaso-bounces at poca.com] On
> Behalf
> Of shawkins777 at comcast.net
> Sent: Monday, May 20, 2013 4:19 PM
> To: forum, Pantera
> Subject: [DeTomaso] NPC: Tornados'
>
> I pray that our friends in Oklahoma are OK.
>
> Steve
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> Message: 17
> Date: Mon, 20 May 2013 17:53:47 -0700 (PDT)
> From: Curt Hall <cuvee at sbcglobal.net>
> Subject: [DeTomaso] Fw: Reader Find: 1968 Ford Torino GT
> To: detomaso at poca.com
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>
> Is this Ford wearing Campys?
>
> --- On Mon, 5/20/13, BarnFinds.com <mail at barnfinds.com> wrote:
>
>
> From: BarnFinds.com <mail at barnfinds.com>
> Subject: Reader Find: 1968 Ford Torino GT
> To: cuvee at sbcglobal.net
> Date: Monday, May 20, 2013, 5:46 PM
>
>
>
>
>
> Instant Updates
>
>
> Reader Find: 1968 Ford Torino GT
>
>
>
> Reader Steve L. recently found this 1968 Ford Torino GT in this Oklahoma
City yard, where it had been parked for the past 33 years. The women who
owned it had a fence put up around it to protect it and over the years it
sunk into the ground. After buying it, he was able to drag it from its
resting place and discovered how solid it really was.
> The post Reader Find: 1968 Ford Torino GT appeared first on Barn Finds.
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> Message: 18
> Date: Mon, 20 May 2013 20:57:31 -0400
> From: "michael at michaelshortt.com" <michaelsavga at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Fw: Reader Find: 1968 Ford Torino GT
> To: Curt Hall <cuvee at sbcglobal.net>
> Cc: "detomaso at poca.com" <detomaso at poca.com>
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> It sure is.
>
> Michael
>
>
>
>
> On Mon, May 20, 2013 at 8:53 PM, Curt Hall <cuvee at sbcglobal.net> wrote:
>
> >
> > Is this Ford wearing Campys?
> >
> > --- On Mon, 5/20/13, BarnFinds.com <mail at barnfinds.com> wrote:
> >
> >
> > From: BarnFinds.com <mail at barnfinds.com>
> > Subject: Reader Find: 1968 Ford Torino GT
> > To: cuvee at sbcglobal.net
> > Date: Monday, May 20, 2013, 5:46 PM
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
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> > Reader Find: 1968 Ford Torino GT
> >
> >
> >
> > Reader Steve L. recently found this 1968 Ford Torino GT in this Oklahoma
> > City yard, where it had been parked for the past 33 years. The women who
> > owned it had a fence put up around it to protect it and over the years
it
> > sunk into the ground. After buying it, he was able to drag it from its
> > resting place and discovered how solid it really was.
> > The post Reader Find: 1968 Ford Torino GT appeared first on Barn Finds.
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>
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> Message: 19
> Date: Mon, 20 May 2013 20:58:20 -0500
> From: gow2 at rc-tech.net
> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Fw: Reader Find: 1968 Ford Torino GT
> To: "Curt Hall" <cuvee at sbcglobal.net>
> Cc: detomaso at poca.com
> Message-ID:
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> Hal and Bev had an old Ranchero with Campies. It looked suprisingly good.
>
>
>
> >
> > Is this Ford wearing Campys?
> >
> > --- On Mon, 5/20/13, BarnFinds.com <mail at barnfinds.com> wrote:
> >
> >
> > From: BarnFinds.com <mail at barnfinds.com>
> > Subject: Reader Find: 1968 Ford Torino GT
> > To: cuvee at sbcglobal.net
> > Date: Monday, May 20, 2013, 5:46 PM
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Instant Updates
> >
> >
> > Reader Find: 1968 Ford Torino GT
> >
> >
> >
> > Reader Steve L. recently found this 1968 Ford Torino GT in this Oklahoma
> > City yard, where it had been parked for the past 33 years. The women who
> > owned it had a fence put up around it to protect it and over the years
it
> > sunk into the ground. After buying it, he was able to drag it from its
> > resting place and discovered how solid it really was.
> > The post Reader Find: 1968 Ford Torino GT appeared first on Barn Finds.
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> Message: 20
> Date: Tue, 21 May 2013 00:21:12 -0400 (EDT)
> From: Pantdino <pantdino at aol.com>
> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] "California Car" - Valid Term?
> To: kenn_green at yahoo.com, lashdeep at yahoo.com, detomaso at poca.com
> Message-ID: <8D023F1C2B2BBC1-1E04-531A8 at webmail-m246.sysops.aol.com>
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>
> Depends on the classic.
> Panteras are more exotic and few people drove them daily, so I don't the
California / southwest history means as much.
> However, when I was looking for a TR6 I saw some online in the Midwest
that were in need of a new frame because it was fatally rusted thru.
>
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Ken Green <kenn_green at yahoo.com>
> To: LS <lashdeep at yahoo.com>; Detomaso List <detomaso at poca.com>
> Sent: Mon, May 20, 2013 2:40 pm
> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] "California Car" - Valid Term?
>
>
> A lot of "California Panteras" were parked in beach cities. The moist
salt air
> rusts everything it can get to.
>
> Ken
>
>
> ________________________________
> From: LS <lashdeep at yahoo.com>
> To: Detomaso List <detomaso at poca.com>
> Sent: Monday, May 20, 2013 2:32 PM
> Subject: [DeTomaso] "California Car" - Valid Term?
>
>
> Discussion point..."California Car" used to mean, dry, rust free, but
maybe sun
> baked?
>
> Does anyone even use this term anymore to describe vintage classics?
>
> Wasn't this used back in the day when people drove their exotics/classics
as
> regular transportation and the lack of moisture in California would imply
a more
> favorable condition?
>
> Nowadays, a classic car is a classic car whether from Buffalo, NY or San
Diego.
>
> I haven't seen a vintage Detomaso, Lamborghini or Ferrari being driven in
the
> rain in a decade.
>
> Nowadays, these classics are only out in the best of conditions...so it
doesn't
> matter where it lives but what condition that particular car is in at any
given
> time.
>
> As more classics are coveted and less are stored on carports and in
backyards,
> this term is becoming a thing of the past.
>
> At least in the Collector Car world...
>
> LS
>
>
>
>
>
>
> central
> wines-spirits est 1934
>
>
> 625 e street nw
>
> washington, dc 20004
>
> centralwines.com
>
>
> facebook.com/CentralLiquors
>
>
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> Message: 21
> Date: Tue, 21 May 2013 00:23:11 -0400 (EDT)
> From: Pantdino <pantdino at aol.com>
> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Vredestein Tires
> To: cuvee at sbcglobal.net, detomaso at poca.com
> Message-ID: <8D023F209AC38F2-1E04-531B3 at webmail-m246.sysops.aol.com>
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>
> I don't know that particular tire, but the brand has a pretty good
reputation.
> They used to be made in Holland, IIRC, hence the name, but that could have
changed.
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Curt Hall <cuvee at sbcglobal.net>
> To: detomaso <detomaso at poca.com>
> Sent: Mon, May 20, 2013 3:45 pm
> Subject: [DeTomaso] Vredestein Tires
>
>
> Anybody know much about these tires? Vredestein tires, I believe are made
in the
> UK. They have a good looking tire 315x35x17 Y rating and a 235 or 245 for
the
> front. Seems to be a reasonable priced tire?
>
> Any feed back...good or bad?
>
> Curt
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> Message: 22
> Date: Tue, 21 May 2013 08:43:31 +0200
> From: Arno Keijzer <arnokeijzer at xs4all.nl>
> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Vredestein Tires
> To: Pantdino <pantdino at aol.com>
> Cc: "detomaso at poca.com" <detomaso at poca.com>
> Message-ID: <AA64C1D5-13AF-4072-8013-EB7D190DBCD5 at xs4all.nl>
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>
> I believe they are still made here in Holland. I have been using them on
my Volvo T5R for 400.000KM ( several sets ;-)) and they are just as good as
other good brands. I used 235x45x17 with the special cho....ro or something
profile on them. Cupt the edges a bid, but that could be the driving style
:-) No complaints.
>
> Grtz Arno
>
> Op 21 mei 2013 om 06:23 heeft Pantdino <pantdino at aol.com> het volgende
geschreven:
>
> >
> > I don't know that particular tire, but the brand has a pretty good
reputation.
> > They used to be made in Holland, IIRC, hence the name, but that could
have changed.
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Curt Hall <cuvee at sbcglobal.net>
> > To: detomaso <detomaso at poca.com>
> > Sent: Mon, May 20, 2013 3:45 pm
> > Subject: [DeTomaso] Vredestein Tires
> >
> >
> > Anybody know much about these tires? Vredestein tires, I believe are
made in the
> > UK. They have a good looking tire 315x35x17 Y rating and a 235 or 245
for the
> > front. Seems to be a reasonable priced tire?
> >
> > Any feed back...good or bad?
> >
> > Curt
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> Message: 23
> Date: Mon, 20 May 2013 23:59:26 -0700
> From: Jack Donahue <demongusta at me.com>
> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Vredestein Tires
> To: Arno Keijzer <arnokeijzer at xs4all.nl>
> Cc: detomaso at poca.com
> Message-ID: <65493F85-963A-4647-AB5B-4CEC487759B5 at me.com>
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>
> Had them on my MG - best dry weather tires going at the time
> On May 20, 2013, at 11:43 PM, Arno Keijzer wrote:
>
> > I believe they are still made here in Holland. I have been using them on
my Volvo T5R for 400.000KM ( several sets ;-)) and they are just as good as
other good brands. I used 235x45x17 with the special cho....ro or something
profile on them. Cupt the edges a bid, but that could be the driving style
:-) No complaints.
> >
> > Grtz Arno
> >
> > Op 21 mei 2013 om 06:23 heeft Pantdino <pantdino at aol.com> het volgende
geschreven:
> >
> >>
> >> I don't know that particular tire, but the brand has a pretty good
reputation.
> >> They used to be made in Holland, IIRC, hence the name, but that could
have changed.
> >>
> >>
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: Curt Hall <cuvee at sbcglobal.net>
> >> To: detomaso <detomaso at poca.com>
> >> Sent: Mon, May 20, 2013 3:45 pm
> >> Subject: [DeTomaso] Vredestein Tires
> >>
> >>
> >> Anybody know much about these tires? Vredestein tires, I believe are
made in the
> >> UK. They have a good looking tire 315x35x17 Y rating and a 235 or 245
for the
> >> front. Seems to be a reasonable priced tire?
> >>
> >> Any feed back...good or bad?
> >>
> >> Curt
> >> _______________________________________________
> >>
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> Message: 24
> Date: Tue, 21 May 2013 07:01:58 -0400
> From: Will Kooiman <will.kooiman at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Speedometer
> To: <shawkins777 at comcast.net>
> Cc: detomaso at poca.com
> Message-ID: <CDC0CBAC.3BC1E%will.kooiman at gmail.com>
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> There are 2 thumb screws that need to be removed. The speedo fits into
> the dash, and there is a metal bracket that holds it in from behind.
> There are two studs in the speedo. The studs fit through the bracket, and
> then the thumbscrews.
>
> I believe they have small lock washers on them too.
>
> Once you get the thumb screws removed, you can push the speedo out of the
> dash. It is wedged into the dash pretty tight, but it comes out.
>
> There is the speedo cable that Steve mentioned, plus there's the trip
> odometer reset cable. I *think* you can push the speedo out with both
> attached. It depends on the slack on the cables. Even if you can't, it
> is easier to remove them after pushing the speedo out a little.
> --
> Will
>
>
>
>
>
> On 5/20/13 2:57 PM, "shawkins777 at comcast.net" <shawkins777 at comcast.net>
> wrote:
>
> >You can access the back and remove the cable with the speedometer in the
> >car.
> >
> >Steve
> >
> >----- Original Message -----
> >From: "J?rn C. Olsen" <joernco at online.no>
> >To: detomaso at poca.com
> >Sent: Monday, May 20, 2013 10:46:46 AM
> >Subject: [DeTomaso] Speedometer
> >
> >
> >
> >Hi!
> >
> >What is the best way to get the speedometer out or access the back, need
> >to
> >check the cable?
> >
> >
> >
> >J.C.
> >
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> Message: 25
> Date: Tue, 21 May 2013 05:46:12 -0700
> From: "Mike Thomas" <mbefthomas at comcast.net>
> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Fw: Reader Find: 1968 Ford Torino GT
> To: "'Curt Hall'" <cuvee at sbcglobal.net>, <detomaso at poca.com>
> Message-ID: <003b01ce5621$2d0c3f90$8724beb0$@comcast.net>
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> Where's the link/pics?
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: detomaso-bounces at poca.com [mailto:detomaso-bounces at poca.com] On
Behalf
> Of Curt Hall
> Sent: Monday, May 20, 2013 5:54 PM
> To: detomaso at poca.com
> Subject: [DeTomaso] Fw: Reader Find: 1968 Ford Torino GT
>
>
> Is this Ford wearing Campys?
>
> --- On Mon, 5/20/13, BarnFinds.com <mail at barnfinds.com> wrote:
>
>
> From: BarnFinds.com <mail at barnfinds.com>
> Subject: Reader Find: 1968 Ford Torino GT
> To: cuvee at sbcglobal.net
> Date: Monday, May 20, 2013, 5:46 PM
>
>
>
>
>
> Instant Updates
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>
> Reader Find: 1968 Ford Torino GT
>
>
>
> Reader Steve L. recently found this 1968 Ford Torino GT in this Oklahoma
> City yard, where it had been parked for the past 33 years. The women who
> owned it had a fence put up around it to protect it and over the years it
> sunk into the ground. After buying it, he was able to drag it from its
> resting place and discovered how solid it really was.
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> Message: 26
> Date: Tue, 21 May 2013 05:58:42 -0700 (PDT)
> From: B Hower <b.hower3400 at yahoo.com>
> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Fw: Reader Find: 1968 Ford Torino GT
> To: 'Curt Hall' <cuvee at sbcglobal.net>, detomaso at poca.com, Mike Thomas
> <mbefthomas at comcast.net>
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> http://www.barnfinds.com/
>
> Bud #3400 ( Drive it like there is no tomorrow -- for there may not be ! )
>
> --- On Tue, 5/21/13, Mike Thomas <mbefthomas at comcast.net> wrote:
>
>
> From: Mike Thomas <mbefthomas at comcast.net>
> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Fw: Reader Find: 1968 Ford Torino GT
> To: "'Curt Hall'" <cuvee at sbcglobal.net>, detomaso at poca.com
> Date: Tuesday, May 21, 2013, 7:46 AM
>
>
> Where's the link/pics?
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: detomaso-bounces at poca.com [mailto:detomaso-bounces at poca.com] On
Behalf
> Of Curt Hall
> Sent: Monday, May 20, 2013 5:54 PM
> To: detomaso at poca.com
> Subject: [DeTomaso] Fw: Reader Find: 1968 Ford Torino GT
>
>
> Is this Ford wearing Campys?
>
> --- On Mon, 5/20/13, BarnFinds.com <mail at barnfinds.com> wrote:
>
>
> From: BarnFinds.com <mail at barnfinds.com>
> Subject: Reader Find: 1968 Ford Torino GT
> To: cuvee at sbcglobal.net
> Date: Monday, May 20, 2013, 5:46 PM
>
>
>
>
>
> Instant Updates
>
>
> Reader Find: 1968 Ford Torino GT
>
>
>
> Reader Steve L. recently found this 1968 Ford Torino GT in this Oklahoma
> City yard, where it had been parked for the past 33 years. The women who
> owned it had a fence put up around it to protect it and over the years it
> sunk into the ground. After buying it, he was able to drag it from its
> resting place and discovered how solid it really was.
> The post Reader Find: 1968 Ford Torino GT appeared first on Barn Finds.
> Read more at barnfinds.com >
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> Message: 27
> Date: Tue, 21 May 2013 09:19:55 -0400
> From: Rob Dumoulin <rob at dumoulins.net>
> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] "California Car" - Valid Term?
> To: Jerry Knotts <knottsj at galstar.com>
> Cc: DeTomaso Mail List <detomaso at poca.com>
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> Jerry's definition is what it means to me. When searching for a modern-day
> car, I avoid anything that says "California" because of the setup/add ons
> that came with it. Definitely a negative rather than a positive for
> anybody outside of CA.
>
> Rob
>
>
> On Mon, May 20, 2013 at 8:21 PM, Jerry Knotts <knottsj at galstar.com> wrote:
>
> > I guess I always thought it meant underpowered smog pump "special"
> > vehicle for sale only in the state of California. The rest of the
> > country got the higher compression lower mileage version..
> >
> > jerry
> >
> >
> > On 5/20/2013 4:32 PM, LS wrote:
> > > Discussion point..."California Car" used to mean, dry, rust free, but
> > maybe sun baked?
> > >
> > > Does anyone even use this term anymore to describe vintage classics?
> > >
> > > Wasn't this used back in the day when people drove their
> > exotics/classics as regular transportation and the lack of moisture in
> > California would imply a more favorable condition?
> > >
> > > Nowadays, a classic car is a classic car whether from Buffalo, NY or
San
> > Diego.
> > >
> > > I haven't seen a vintage Detomaso, Lamborghini or Ferrari being driven
> > in the rain in a decade.
> > >
> > > Nowadays, these classics are only out in the best of conditions...so
it
> > doesn't matter where it lives but what condition that particular car is
in
> > at any given time.
> > >
> > > As more classics are coveted and less are stored on carports and in
> > backyards, this term is becoming a thing of the past.
> > >
> > > At least in the Collector Car world...
> > >
> > > LS
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > central
> > > wines-spirits est 1934
> > >
> > >
> > > 625 e street nw
> > >
> > > washington, dc 20004
> > >
> > > centralwines.com
> > >
> > >
> > > facebook.com/CentralLiquors
> > >
> > >
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> Message: 28
> Date: Tue, 21 May 2013 06:40:49 -0700 (PDT)
> From: Jim Gray <grayjim at att.net>
> Subject: [DeTomaso] Tornado
> To: "detomaso at poca.com" <detomaso at poca.com>
> Message-ID:
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> Thanks for the prayers and good wishes from all of you.?
>
> The tornado went through South OKC/Moore about a mile or two south of my
> neighborhood.? I'm on SW 118th in OKC and the storm went across on SW 134
and SW
> 149th.? Wife and I are OK.
>
> Unfortunately my daughter had lost the roof off her house on Sunday
night.? She
> and her family are now living at the Embassy in Norman, OK.
>
> Jim "feeling lucky" Gray
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 29
> Date: Tue, 21 May 2013 13:50:53 +0000 (GMT)
> From: cengles at cox.net
> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] TORNADO IN OKLAHOMA
> To: teampantera at yahoo.com
> Cc: detomaso at poca.com, asajay at asajay.com, gndplne at yahoo.com
> Message-ID: <abeff4.1fbd8.13ec75b5d38.Webtop.0 at cox.net>
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>
> Dear Dennis,
>
>
> All is well at the Pantera Research Institute by God's
> grace and dumb luck with Mother Nature. I *think* the other OKC Pantera
> owners survived unscathed, but I have yet to hear from all of them.
>
>
> Counting my blessings, Chuck Engles
>
>
>
>
> On Mon, May 20, 2013 at 8:48 PM, Team Pantera wrote:
>
> > Doc You okay out there?
> > Tornado hit close to you or family?
> > MD
> >
> > Charles Engles <cengles at cox.net> wrote:
> >
> >> Dear Mark,
> >>
> >>
> >> Well done, sir.
> >>
> >>
> >> Warmest regards, Chuck Engles
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: detomaso-bounces at poca.com [mailto:detomaso-bounces at poca.com] On
> >> Behalf
> >> Of mark skwarek
> >> Sent: Sunday, May 19, 2013 5:16 PM
> >> To: Mad Dog Antenucci; detomaso at poca.com; Asa Jay Laughton; John
> >> Bentley
> >> Subject: [DeTomaso] NORC
> >>
> >> We have just arrived @ Sam's Town for the festivities. ?
> >> Had a great race. Hopefully I was not DQ'ed at the start for
> >> excessive
> >> speed. ?
> >> After 10 miles,?I smelled oil. Looking in the rear view mirror, all I
> >> could
> >> see was oil. looking over my shoulder, I could see lots of smoke and
> >> oil
> >> flying around. Doing 138 mph at this time. I found that if I went
> >> below 115
> >> mph things were not too bad.?I decided to press on, not wanting a
> >> DNF. ?
> >> I managed to finish the race avg 117-118. (Will get results tonight).
> >> ?
> >> For the last mile I decided to abandon caution and do 138 mph at the
> >> finish
> >> line with smoke billowing out the rear. ?
> >> I had a great time and look foward to doing it again, even if it is a
> >> 2600
> >> mile tow.
> >> ?
> >> Mark
> >> 5481
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> Message: 30
> Date: Tue, 21 May 2013 10:07:31 -0400
> From: "michael at michaelshortt.com" <michaelsavga at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] "California Car" - Valid Term?
> To: Rob Dumoulin <rob at dumoulins.net>
> Cc: DeTomaso Mail List <detomaso at poca.com>, Jerry Knotts
> <knottsj at galstar.com>
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>
> I have a recent story, last Friday to be exact.
>
> A one day project took me to Waycross, Georgia ( approx 3 miles west of BF
> Egypt )
>
> While there, my 2006 Ford Excursion V10 with 41K original miles died.
>
> First issue ever with this vehicle.
>
> I diagnosed the problem myself ( fuel pump) and called a tow truck.
>
> Went to the Ford dealer, thankfully this was very early in the day, as the
> cut off time to order parts
>
> was 11 am.
>
> So it could be driven from Albany. Georgia 3 hours further west.
>
> Went the pump arrived, the tech removed the tank, withdrew the old pump
and
>
> BAM....my truck is a California Emissions equipped version, different fuel
> pump and wiring harness.
>
> To order a new one, would take 3 days, since NOBODY in Georgia keeps a CA
> pump in stock.
>
> I would be stranded in this town for three days.
>
> I looked at the new pump and the old pump and noticed that the top was
> different but the business end was the same,
>
> so, we took them both apart and switched the "guts" and it worked
> perfectly.
>
> No word to the wiser and the warranty is still intact.
>
> Now I know why Excursion #3 ( a 2006) gets the worst gas mileage of any of
> the three ( 2000, and 2003) that I have owned,
>
> I bought the other two new off the lot and bought this one used off eBay
in
> FL, with 16K miles on it in 2009, and it was
>
> apparently from CA before that.
>
> Michael Shortt
>
>
>
> On Tue, May 21, 2013 at 9:19 AM, Rob Dumoulin <rob at dumoulins.net> wrote:
>
> > Jerry's definition is what it means to me. When searching for a
modern-day
> > car, I avoid anything that says "California" because of the setup/add
ons
> > that came with it. Definitely a negative rather than a positive for
> > anybody outside of CA.
> >
> > Rob
> >
> >
> > On Mon, May 20, 2013 at 8:21 PM, Jerry Knotts <knottsj at galstar.com>
wrote:
> >
> > > I guess I always thought it meant underpowered smog pump "special"
> > > vehicle for sale only in the state of California. The rest of the
> > > country got the higher compression lower mileage version..
> > >
> > > jerry
> > >
> > >
> > > On 5/20/2013 4:32 PM, LS wrote:
> > > > Discussion point..."California Car" used to mean, dry, rust free,
but
> > > maybe sun baked?
> > > >
> > > > Does anyone even use this term anymore to describe vintage classics?
> > > >
> > > > Wasn't this used back in the day when people drove their
> > > exotics/classics as regular transportation and the lack of moisture in
> > > California would imply a more favorable condition?
> > > >
> > > > Nowadays, a classic car is a classic car whether from Buffalo, NY or
> > San
> > > Diego.
> > > >
> > > > I haven't seen a vintage Detomaso, Lamborghini or Ferrari being
driven
> > > in the rain in a decade.
> > > >
> > > > Nowadays, these classics are only out in the best of conditions...so
it
> > > doesn't matter where it lives but what condition that particular car
is
> > in
> > > at any given time.
> > > >
> > > > As more classics are coveted and less are stored on carports and in
> > > backyards, this term is becoming a thing of the past.
> > > >
> > > > At least in the Collector Car world...
> > > >
> > > > LS
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > central
> > > > wines-spirits est 1934
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > 625 e street nw
> > > >
> > > > washington, dc 20004
> > > >
> > > > centralwines.com
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > facebook.com/CentralLiquors
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > 202-737-2800
> > > > _______________________________________________
> > > >
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>
>
> --
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Michael L. Shortt
> Savannah, Georgia
> www.michaelshortt.com
> michael at michaelshortt.com
> 912-232-9390
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> Message: 31
> Date: Tue, 21 May 2013 10:19:48 -0400
> From: "Larry - Ohio Time Corp" <larry at ohiotimecorp.com>
> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Tornado
> To: "'Jim Gray'" <grayjim at att.net>, <detomaso at poca.com>
> Message-ID: <20130521141904.69933834305 at mail.poca.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
>
> Jim,
>
> Thank God you and your family are ok. The house can be fixed.
>
>
>
>
> Larry - Cleveland
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: detomaso-bounces at poca.com [mailto:detomaso-bounces at poca.com] On
Behalf
> Of Jim Gray
> Sent: Tuesday, May 21, 2013 9:41 AM
> To: detomaso at poca.com
> Subject: [DeTomaso] Tornado
>
> Thanks for the prayers and good wishes from all of you.?
>
> The tornado went through South OKC/Moore about a mile or two south of my
> neighborhood.? I'm on SW 118th in OKC and the storm went across on SW 134
> and SW 149th.? Wife and I are OK.
>
> Unfortunately my daughter had lost the roof off her house on Sunday
night.?
> She and her family are now living at the Embassy in Norman, OK.
>
> Jim "feeling lucky" Gray
> _______________________________________________
>
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> Message: 32
> Date: Tue, 21 May 2013 09:53:51 -0500
> From: Jerry Knotts <knottsj at galstar.com>
> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] TORNADO IN OKLAHOMA
> To: detomaso at poca.com
> Message-ID: <519B8A7F.3050201 at galstar.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed
>
> Charles,
>
> The one that started in SkItook and went to Vinita came by about a mile
> south of the house. The sheriff came by and said that there was a
> tornado on the ground and coming our way. My wife and grandson went to
> an inner closet in the house and I went outside to watch it go by on the
> south side of the barns. It had lifted to about 200 feet by the time it
> arrived and dropped quite a bit of hail. All the cars were either in
> the garage or the barns.
>
> Have been lucky for a long time up here.
> jerry
>
> On 5/21/2013 8:50 AM, cengles at cox.net wrote:
> > Dear Dennis,
> >
> > All is well at the Pantera Research Institute by God's
grace and dumb luck with Mother Nature. I *think* the other OKC Pantera
owners survived unscathed, but I have yet to hear from all of them.
> >
> > Counting my blessings, Chuck Engles
> >
> >
> >
> > On Mon, May 20, 2013 at 8:48 PM, Team Pantera wrote:
> >> Doc You okay out there?> Tornado hit close to you or family?> MD>>
Charles Engles <cengles at cox.net> wrote:>>> Dear Mark,>>>>>>
Well done, sir.>>>>>> Warmest regards, Chuck
Engles>>>>>>>> -----Original Message----->> From: detomaso-bounces at poca.com
[mailto:detomaso-bounces at poca.com] On >> Behalf>> Of mark skwarek>> Sent:
Sunday, May 19, 2013 5:16 PM>> To: Mad Dog Antenucci; detomaso at poca.com; Asa
Jay Laughton; John >> Bentley>> Subject: [DeTomaso] NORC>>>> We have just
arrived @ Sam's Town for the festivities. >> Had a great race. Hopefully I
was not DQ'ed at the start for >> excessive>> speed. >> After 10 miles, I
smelled oil. Looking in the rear view mirror, all I >> could>> see was oil.
looking over my shoulder, I could see lots of smoke and >> oil>> flying
around. Doing 138 mph at this time. I found that if I went >> below 115>>
mph things were not too bad. I decided to press on, not wanting a >> DNF.
>> I managed to fi
ni
> sh the race avg 117-118. (Will get results tonight).>> >> For the last
mile I decided to abandon caution and do 138 mph at the >> finish>> line
with smoke billowing out the rear. >> I had a great time and look foward to
doing it again, even if it is a >> 2600>> mile tow.>> >> Mark>> 5481>>
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>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 33
> Date: Tue, 21 May 2013 11:03:06 -0400
> From: Rob Dumoulin <rob at dumoulins.net>
> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] "California Car" - Valid Term?
> To: Pantera - Michael Shortt <michael at michaelshortt.com>
> Cc: DeTomaso Mail List <detomaso at poca.com>, Jerry Knotts
> <knottsj at galstar.com>
> Message-ID:
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>
> My point exactly. I've walked away from two good BMW deals because they
> were touted as CA Specials. Seriously, one was advertised that way and
the
> Carfax showed both were originally dealer prep and sold in CA.
>
> Rob
>
>
> On Tue, May 21, 2013 at 10:07 AM, michael at michaelshortt.com <
> michaelsavga at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > I have a recent story, last Friday to be exact.
> >
> > A one day project took me to Waycross, Georgia ( approx 3 miles west of
BF
> > Egypt )
> >
> > While there, my 2006 Ford Excursion V10 with 41K original miles died.
> >
> > First issue ever with this vehicle.
> >
> > I diagnosed the problem myself ( fuel pump) and called a tow truck.
> >
> > Went to the Ford dealer, thankfully this was very early in the day, as
the
> > cut off time to order parts
> >
> > was 11 am.
> >
> > So it could be driven from Albany. Georgia 3 hours further west.
> >
> > Went the pump arrived, the tech removed the tank, withdrew the old pump
> > and
> >
> > BAM....my truck is a California Emissions equipped version, different
fuel
> > pump and wiring harness.
> >
> > To order a new one, would take 3 days, since NOBODY in Georgia keeps a
CA
> > pump in stock.
> >
> > I would be stranded in this town for three days.
> >
> > I looked at the new pump and the old pump and noticed that the top was
> > different but the business end was the same,
> >
> > so, we took them both apart and switched the "guts" and it worked
> > perfectly.
> >
> > No word to the wiser and the warranty is still intact.
> >
> > Now I know why Excursion #3 ( a 2006) gets the worst gas mileage of any
of
> > the three ( 2000, and 2003) that I have owned,
> >
> > I bought the other two new off the lot and bought this one used off eBay
> > in FL, with 16K miles on it in 2009, and it was
> >
> > apparently from CA before that.
> >
> > Michael Shortt
> >
> >
> >
> > On Tue, May 21, 2013 at 9:19 AM, Rob Dumoulin <rob at dumoulins.net> wrote:
> >
> >> Jerry's definition is what it means to me. When searching for a
modern-day
> >> car, I avoid anything that says "California" because of the setup/add
ons
> >> that came with it. Definitely a negative rather than a positive for
> >> anybody outside of CA.
> >>
> >> Rob
> >>
> >>
> >> On Mon, May 20, 2013 at 8:21 PM, Jerry Knotts <knottsj at galstar.com>
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >> > I guess I always thought it meant underpowered smog pump "special"
> >> > vehicle for sale only in the state of California. The rest of the
> >> > country got the higher compression lower mileage version..
> >> >
> >> > jerry
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > On 5/20/2013 4:32 PM, LS wrote:
> >> > > Discussion point..."California Car" used to mean, dry, rust free,
but
> >> > maybe sun baked?
> >> > >
> >> > > Does anyone even use this term anymore to describe vintage
classics?
> >> > >
> >> > > Wasn't this used back in the day when people drove their
> >> > exotics/classics as regular transportation and the lack of moisture
in
> >> > California would imply a more favorable condition?
> >> > >
> >> > > Nowadays, a classic car is a classic car whether from Buffalo, NY
or
> >> San
> >> > Diego.
> >> > >
> >> > > I haven't seen a vintage Detomaso, Lamborghini or Ferrari being
driven
> >> > in the rain in a decade.
> >> > >
> >> > > Nowadays, these classics are only out in the best of
conditions...so
> >> it
> >> > doesn't matter where it lives but what condition that particular car
is
> >> in
> >> > at any given time.
> >> > >
> >> > > As more classics are coveted and less are stored on carports and in
> >> > backyards, this term is becoming a thing of the past.
> >> > >
> >> > > At least in the Collector Car world...
> >> > >
> >> > > LS
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> > > central
> >> > > wines-spirits est 1934
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> > > 625 e street nw
> >> > >
> >> > > washington, dc 20004
> >> > >
> >> > > centralwines.com
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> > > facebook.com/CentralLiquors
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> > > 202-737-2800
> >> > > _______________________________________________
> >> > >
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> >> > >
> >> >
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> >
> >
> >
> > --
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Michael L. Shortt
> > Savannah, Georgia
> > www.michaelshortt.com
> > michael at michaelshortt.com
> > 912-232-9390
> >
> >
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> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 34
> Date: Tue, 21 May 2013 11:07:31 -0400
> From: Rob Dumoulin <rob at dumoulins.net>
> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Tornado
> To: Larry - Ohio Time Corp <larry at ohiotimecorp.com>
> Cc: DeTomaso Mail List <detomaso at poca.com>
> Message-ID:
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>
> Not to make light of the disaster and it is great to hear of no injuries
to
> our immediate brotherhood, but "the house can be fixed" reminds me of the
> movie "The world according to Garp".
>
> You look at a house as it gets demolished by a twister and you say:
>
> "We'll take it. The chances of another twister hitting this house is
> astronomical. We'll be safe here".
>
> Rob
>
>
> On Tue, May 21, 2013 at 10:19 AM, Larry - Ohio Time Corp <
> larry at ohiotimecorp.com> wrote:
>
> > Jim,
> >
> > Thank God you and your family are ok. The house can be fixed.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Larry - Cleveland
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: detomaso-bounces at poca.com [mailto:detomaso-bounces at poca.com] On
> > Behalf
> > Of Jim Gray
> > Sent: Tuesday, May 21, 2013 9:41 AM
> > To: detomaso at poca.com
> > Subject: [DeTomaso] Tornado
> >
> > Thanks for the prayers and good wishes from all of you.
> >
> > The tornado went through South OKC/Moore about a mile or two south of my
> > neighborhood. I'm on SW 118th in OKC and the storm went across on SW
134
> > and SW 149th. Wife and I are OK.
> >
> > Unfortunately my daughter had lost the roof off her house on Sunday
night.
> > She and her family are now living at the Embassy in Norman, OK.
> >
> > Jim "feeling lucky" Gray
> > _______________________________________________
> >
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>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 35
> Date: Tue, 21 May 2013 08:37:12 -0700
> From: Mike Drew <MikeLDrew at aol.com>
> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Speedometer
> To: Will Kooiman <will.kooiman at gmail.com>
> Cc: "detomaso at poca.com" <detomaso at poca.com>,
> "<shawkins777 at comcast.net>" <shawkins777 at comcast.net>
> Message-ID: <C318565C-7CB7-4E97-8C72-FD27B5F1CEDA at aol.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8
>
> Also, it is easier to reach the nuts holding the speedo in by knelling on
the ground and reaching in with your left hand.
>
> Of course the easiest way is to have somebody else do it! Kids are
especially adept at things like this and their smaller hands make it easier.
Wives or girlfriends will do in a pinch!
>
> Mike
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On May 21, 2013, at 4:01, Will Kooiman <will.kooiman at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > There are 2 thumb screws that need to be removed. The speedo fits into
> > the dash, and there is a metal bracket that holds it in from behind.
> > There are two studs in the speedo. The studs fit through the bracket,
and
> > then the thumbscrews.
> >
> > I believe they have small lock washers on them too.
> >
> > Once you get the thumb screws removed, you can push the speedo out of
the
> > dash. It is wedged into the dash pretty tight, but it comes out.
> >
> > There is the speedo cable that Steve mentioned, plus there's the trip
> > odometer reset cable. I *think* you can push the speedo out with both
> > attached. It depends on the slack on the cables. Even if you can't, it
> > is easier to remove them after pushing the speedo out a little.
> > --
> > Will
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > On 5/20/13 2:57 PM, "shawkins777 at comcast.net" <shawkins777 at comcast.net>
> > wrote:
> >
> >> You can access the back and remove the cable with the speedometer in
the
> >> car.
> >>
> >> Steve
> >>
> >> ----- Original Message -----
> >> From: "J?rn C. Olsen" <joernco at online.no>
> >> To: detomaso at poca.com
> >> Sent: Monday, May 20, 2013 10:46:46 AM
> >> Subject: [DeTomaso] Speedometer
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Hi!
> >>
> >> What is the best way to get the speedometer out or access the back,
need
> >> to
> >> check the cable?
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> J.C.
> >>
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> >>
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> >
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>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 36
> Date: Tue, 21 May 2013 10:47:28 -0500
> From: Jerry Knotts <knottsj at galstar.com>
> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Tornado
> To: detomaso at poca.com
> Message-ID: <519B9710.50802 at galstar.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed
>
> Rob,
>
> Maybe Moore should be named Less. I has been hit consistently for the
> last 20 years. The same area was hit in 1999 but it was a level 5 storm
> instead of this level 4 storm. There have been one or two other major
> storms in Moore and a few minor ones in the last twenty years. A minor
> storm is pretty major if you are in it.
>
> jerry
>
> On 5/21/2013 10:07 AM, Rob Dumoulin wrote:
> > Not to make light of the disaster and it is great to hear of no injuries
to
> > our immediate brotherhood, but "the house can be fixed" reminds me of
the
> > movie "The world according to Garp".
> >
> > You look at a house as it gets demolished by a twister and you say:
> >
> > "We'll take it. The chances of another twister hitting this house is
> > astronomical. We'll be safe here".
> >
> > Rob
> >
> >
> > On Tue, May 21, 2013 at 10:19 AM, Larry - Ohio Time Corp <
> > larry at ohiotimecorp.com> wrote:
> >
> >> Jim,
> >>
> >> Thank God you and your family are ok. The house can be fixed.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Larry - Cleveland
> >>
> >>
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: detomaso-bounces at poca.com [mailto:detomaso-bounces at poca.com] On
> >> Behalf
> >> Of Jim Gray
> >> Sent: Tuesday, May 21, 2013 9:41 AM
> >> To: detomaso at poca.com
> >> Subject: [DeTomaso] Tornado
> >>
> >> Thanks for the prayers and good wishes from all of you.
> >>
> >> The tornado went through South OKC/Moore about a mile or two south of
my
> >> neighborhood. I'm on SW 118th in OKC and the storm went across on SW
134
> >> and SW 149th. Wife and I are OK.
> >>
> >> Unfortunately my daughter had lost the roof off her house on Sunday
night.
> >> She and her family are now living at the Embassy in Norman, OK.
> >>
> >> Jim "feeling lucky" Gray
> >> _______________________________________________
> >>
> >> Detomaso Forum Managed by POCA
> >>
> >> DeTomaso mailing list
> >> DeTomaso at poca.com
> >> http://poca.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso
> >>
> >> _______________________________________________
> >>
> >> Detomaso Forum Managed by POCA
> >>
> >> DeTomaso mailing list
> >> DeTomaso at poca.com
> >> http://poca.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso
> >>
> > _______________________________________________
> >
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> >
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> > DeTomaso at poca.com
> > http://poca.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso
> >
> >
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 37
> Date: Tue, 21 May 2013 12:01:31 -0400
> From: "Larry - Ohio Time Corp" <larry at ohiotimecorp.com>
> Subject: [DeTomaso] on this date
> To: <detomaso at poca.com>
> Message-ID: <20130521160046.7ADBF834305 at mail.poca.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
>
> Today, May 21, is the birthday of the speed limit. On this day in 1901,
> Connecticut became the first state to regulate the speed of motor vehicles
> (12 mph city, 15 mph country). There had been speed limits for wagons
since
> 1652 and a speeding ticket was awarded to a New York City cab driver in an
> electric vehicle in 1899. Soon, many states followed suit, though the last
> state to put in a speed limit did so more than 30 years later. Another
> interesting automotive history tidbit from This Day in History.
>
>
>
> Larry - Cleveland
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 38
> Date: Tue, 21 May 2013 09:48:33 -0700
> From: "Stephen Nelson" <steve at snclocks.com>
> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Tornado
> To: "'Jerry Knotts'" <knottsj at galstar.com>, <detomaso at poca.com>
> Message-ID: <E682219D72BF437BA63829FDAC4CD056 at XPS>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
>
> Funny thing about statistics - the statement that "You look at a house as
it
> gets demolished by a twister and you say: The chances of another twister
> hitting this house is astronomical. We'll be safe here" is not very
> realistic. Actually, once a twister hits, the chance of a second one
> hitting is exactly the same for everywhere else nearby. Pity that. But,
> the chance of two future twisters hitting the same place is astronomical.
>
> Bottom line, we moved to Washington three years ago. Our old house was
> missed by 1/4 mile. Gads are we glad we moved.
>
> Stephen Nelson who is still looking for a great car
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: detomaso-bounces at poca.com [mailto:detomaso-bounces at poca.com] On
Behalf
> Of Jerry Knotts
> Sent: Tuesday, May 21, 2013 8:47 AM
> To: detomaso at poca.com
> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Tornado
>
> Rob,
>
> Maybe Moore should be named Less. I has been hit consistently for the
> last 20 years. The same area was hit in 1999 but it was a level 5 storm
> instead of this level 4 storm. There have been one or two other major
> storms in Moore and a few minor ones in the last twenty years. A minor
> storm is pretty major if you are in it.
>
> jerry
>
> On 5/21/2013 10:07 AM, Rob Dumoulin wrote:
> > Not to make light of the disaster and it is great to hear of no injuries
> to
> > our immediate brotherhood, but "the house can be fixed" reminds me of
the
> > movie "The world according to Garp".
> >
> > You look at a house as it gets demolished by a twister and you say:
> >
> > "We'll take it. The chances of another twister hitting this house is
> > astronomical. We'll be safe here".
> >
> > Rob
> >
> >
> > On Tue, May 21, 2013 at 10:19 AM, Larry - Ohio Time Corp <
> > larry at ohiotimecorp.com> wrote:
> >
> >> Jim,
> >>
> >> Thank God you and your family are ok. The house can be fixed.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Larry - Cleveland
> >>
> >>
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: detomaso-bounces at poca.com [mailto:detomaso-bounces at poca.com] On
> >> Behalf
> >> Of Jim Gray
> >> Sent: Tuesday, May 21, 2013 9:41 AM
> >> To: detomaso at poca.com
> >> Subject: [DeTomaso] Tornado
> >>
> >> Thanks for the prayers and good wishes from all of you.
> >>
> >> The tornado went through South OKC/Moore about a mile or two south of
my
> >> neighborhood. I'm on SW 118th in OKC and the storm went across on SW
134
> >> and SW 149th. Wife and I are OK.
> >>
> >> Unfortunately my daughter had lost the roof off her house on Sunday
> night.
> >> She and her family are now living at the Embassy in Norman, OK.
> >>
> >> Jim "feeling lucky" Gray
> >> _______________________________________________
> >>
> >> Detomaso Forum Managed by POCA
> >>
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> >>
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> >>
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> >>
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> >> DeTomaso at poca.com
> >> http://poca.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso
> >>
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> >
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> >
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> >
>
> _______________________________________________
>
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>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 39
> Date: Tue, 21 May 2013 13:26:00 -0400
> From: Rob Dumoulin <rob at dumoulins.net>
> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Tornado
> To: Jerry Knotts <knottsj at galstar.com>
> Cc: DeTomaso Mail List <detomaso at poca.com>
> Message-ID:
> <CAEr4y_uBim1ATheQ_Z6TWLGNC-idJ_3DsYfY-qJ=Vi54Q_=dYw at mail.gmail.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
>
> Hence the irony in my statement. In Florida, I've lived through three
> direct (eye passing over) hurricanes and too many indirect hurricanes and
> tropical storms to count. I know that if you live in a well built house
> with adequate elevation to avoid flooding or storm surge and are prepared,
> they become inconvenient but not life threatening.
>
> Tornadoes, however, strike with little notice and the only elevation you
> can plan for is to be underground. In Florida though, if you dig 5 feet to
> make a shelter, you hit water/mud instead.
>
> Rob
>
> On Tue, May 21, 2013 at 11:47 AM, Jerry Knotts <knottsj at galstar.com>
wrote:
>
> > Rob,
> >
> > Maybe Moore should be named Less. I has been hit consistently for the
> > last 20 years. The same area was hit in 1999 but it was a level 5 storm
> > instead of this level 4 storm. There have been one or two other major
> > storms in Moore and a few minor ones in the last twenty years. A minor
> > storm is pretty major if you are in it.
> >
> > jerry
> >
> > On 5/21/2013 10:07 AM, Rob Dumoulin wrote:
> > > Not to make light of the disaster and it is great to hear of no
injuries
> > to
> > > our immediate brotherhood, but "the house can be fixed" reminds me of
the
> > > movie "The world according to Garp".
> > >
> > > You look at a house as it gets demolished by a twister and you say:
> > >
> > > "We'll take it. The chances of another twister hitting this house is
> > > astronomical. We'll be safe here".
> > >
> > > Rob
> > >
> > >
> > > On Tue, May 21, 2013 at 10:19 AM, Larry - Ohio Time Corp <
> > > larry at ohiotimecorp.com> wrote:
> > >
> > >> Jim,
> > >>
> > >> Thank God you and your family are ok. The house can be fixed.
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> Larry - Cleveland
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> -----Original Message-----
> > >> From: detomaso-bounces at poca.com [mailto:detomaso-bounces at poca.com] On
> > >> Behalf
> > >> Of Jim Gray
> > >> Sent: Tuesday, May 21, 2013 9:41 AM
> > >> To: detomaso at poca.com
> > >> Subject: [DeTomaso] Tornado
> > >>
> > >> Thanks for the prayers and good wishes from all of you.
> > >>
> > >> The tornado went through South OKC/Moore about a mile or two south of
my
> > >> neighborhood. I'm on SW 118th in OKC and the storm went across on SW
> > 134
> > >> and SW 149th. Wife and I are OK.
> > >>
> > >> Unfortunately my daughter had lost the roof off her house on Sunday
> > night.
> > >> She and her family are now living at the Embassy in Norman, OK.
> > >>
> > >> Jim "feeling lucky" Gray
> > >> _______________________________________________
> > >>
> > >> Detomaso Forum Managed by POCA
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> > >>
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> > >> http://poca.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso
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> >
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>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 40
> Date: Tue, 21 May 2013 20:23:04 +0200
> From: " J?rn C. Olsen " <joernco at online.no>
> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Speedometer
> To: "'Mike Drew'" <MikeLDrew at aol.com>, "'Will Kooiman'"
> <will.kooiman at gmail.com>
> Cc: detomaso at poca.com, shawkins777 at comcast.net
> Message-ID: <000001ce5650$3cdbe720$b693b560$@online.no>
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> Thanks guys!
> I can`t possibly understand how someone can get their hands up there if
your not a snake.
>
> J.C.
>
> -----Opprinnelig melding-----
> Fra: detomaso-bounces at poca.com [mailto:detomaso-bounces at poca.com] P? vegne
av Mike Drew
> Sendt: 21. mai 2013 17:37
> Til: Will Kooiman
> Kopi: detomaso at poca.com; <shawkins777 at comcast.net>
> Emne: Re: [DeTomaso] Speedometer
>
> Also, it is easier to reach the nuts holding the speedo in by knelling on
the ground and reaching in with your left hand.
>
> Of course the easiest way is to have somebody else do it! Kids are
especially adept at things like this and their smaller hands make it easier.
Wives or girlfriends will do in a pinch!
>
> Mike
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On May 21, 2013, at 4:01, Will Kooiman <will.kooiman at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > There are 2 thumb screws that need to be removed. The speedo fits
> > into the dash, and there is a metal bracket that holds it in from
behind.
> > There are two studs in the speedo. The studs fit through the bracket,
> > and then the thumbscrews.
> >
> > I believe they have small lock washers on them too.
> >
> > Once you get the thumb screws removed, you can push the speedo out of
> > the dash. It is wedged into the dash pretty tight, but it comes out.
> >
> > There is the speedo cable that Steve mentioned, plus there's the trip
> > odometer reset cable. I *think* you can push the speedo out with both
> > attached. It depends on the slack on the cables. Even if you can't,
> > it is easier to remove them after pushing the speedo out a little.
> > --
> > Will
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > On 5/20/13 2:57 PM, "shawkins777 at comcast.net"
> > <shawkins777 at comcast.net>
> > wrote:
> >
> >> You can access the back and remove the cable with the speedometer in
> >> the car.
> >>
> >> Steve
> >>
> >> ----- Original Message -----
> >> From: "J?rn C. Olsen" <joernco at online.no>
> >> To: detomaso at poca.com
> >> Sent: Monday, May 20, 2013 10:46:46 AM
> >> Subject: [DeTomaso] Speedometer
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Hi!
> >>
> >> What is the best way to get the speedometer out or access the back,
> >> need to check the cable?
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> J.C.
> >>
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> Message: 41
> Date: Tue, 21 May 2013 21:46:05 +0300
> From: "eb0711 at kolumbus.fi" <eb0711 at kolumbus.fi>
> Subject: [DeTomaso] Engine stall under hard braking
> To: detomaso at poca.com
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>
> I have a practically stock engine, but with holley vacuum secondary
> carb. I've been doing couple of hard brakings now that I have rebuilt
> the brakes, and love the brake performance. However I've succeeded to
> stall the engine a few times under braking.
>
> Thinking it could be carb and fuel slosh related, but where to begin?
>
> Cheers,
> Janne
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