[DeTomaso] Puzzle for the gear heads

Sun Mar 10 19:57:53 EDT 2013

Factory Five 818?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9dw7BBZAU6M

On Sun, Mar 10, 2013 at 6:57 PM, David Fisher <fisher95020 at gmail.com> wrote:
> Ok. You guys are getting fairly close.  Here's the last clue which ought to
> get us to the finish line
>
> Its a boxer motor,  between 2 and 3 litres.
>
> On Mar 10, 2013 3:41 PM, "Sean Korb" <spkorb at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> Wow, really reaching here...
>>
>> A Dwarf car with an R1 Yamaha motor?  That's *really* small
>> displacement though and 100MPH is like 15 seconds.  Hmmm. A turbo
>> 'busa motor would get it there pretty quickly.
>>
>> I'm going for Lotus 7 kit with a turbo 'busa motor.
>>
>> sean
>>
>> On Sun, Mar 10, 2013 at 3:36 PM, David Fisher <fisher95020 at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>> > Ahh... you guys are a creative bunch!  Jeff has uncovered a few clues
>> > that
>> > are getting closer.
>> >
>> > First,  The driver is worried about shifting... partially because I have
>> > always been a "shift slow and mash the pedal guy", but partially because
>> > shifting is not very direct in this car.   I will let you take that clue
>> > from there.
>> >
>> > You are also correct that there is very little brake dive,     Given
>> > that
>> > most folks are narrowing in on a smaller displacement engine and I gave
>> > away the 0-100 time  (in Z06 territory) you know this has to be light.
>> >
>> > Thats all I am saying for now.
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > On Sun, Mar 10, 2013 at 10:23 AM, Jeff Cobb <jeffcobb1 at me.com> wrote:
>> >
>> >> I will go further out on a limb.
>> >>
>> >> This unknown car slowly traverses low amplitude train tracks, yet you
>> >> can
>> >> hear the broken/loose shock top mounts allowing much vertical movement
>> >> so
>> >> it will be a light weight car with antiquated suspension. Yet the heavy
>> >> clunks would indicate the  top suspension parts are loose in a subframe
>> >> or
>> >> the lowers on the axle mounts, not a body.
>> >>
>> >> The driver does not feel good about truly getting on the power, as
>> >> shown
>> >> by the "I am worried about breaking something or  this car is hard to
>> >> shift
>> >> so I will short shift first gear", so we have a breaker and must be
>> >> careful. So I guess 1966 to 1977.
>> >>
>> >> At second 7 the quick engine rev up indicates vacuum/sliding piston
>> >> carbs
>> >> or a 450 +- cfm 2 barrel.
>> >>
>> >> Long times between shifts indicate a cast iron four speed and a long
>> >> throw
>> >> or weak clutch pedal function.
>> >>
>> >> Low amount of rear body dive/dip rules out the TR-6.
>> >>
>> >> At second 15, the dramatic on/off sounds are so English or Ford.
>> >>
>> >> The exhaust sound of second 14 to 21 wfo indicates whooshing of maybe
>> >> two
>> >> small diameter exhaust pipes with weak/blownout mufflers yet a large
>> >> enough
>> >> engine because of the throat noise, fine acceleration and no exhaust
>> >> smoke.
>> >>
>> >> The slowing down shows low brake dive and again no down shifting would
>> >> indicate that shifting difficulty again.
>> >>
>> >> So I guess a Mustang 289, TVR, modified TR-8 or Jenson V8.
>> >>
>> >> Extra pickles, please.
>> >>
>> >> Jeff Cobb
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> At second 14
>> >> On Mar 9, 2013, at 11:17 PM, David Fisher <fisher95020 at gmail.com>
>> >> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> > Here's a clue.   This is a new toy to me - so you can eliminate the
>> >> > Jag E
>> >> > type from the equation.   I like Jeff's analysis of the clatter over
>> >> > the
>> >> > railroad tracks.
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> > On Sat, Mar 9, 2013 at 6:46 PM, michael at michaelshortt.com <
>> >> > michaelsavga at gmail.com> wrote:
>> >> >
>> >> >>> 10 pts for # of cylinders    6
>> >> >>> 20 pts of displacement (within 500cc)    2.5 lier
>> >> >>> 10 pts for engines home country            England
>> >> >>> 10 pts for guessing 0-100 mph (within 1/4 sec)       15
>> >> >>> 30 pts for telling me what car it is           Triumph TR-6 with
>> >> Webers.
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Michael Shortt
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >> On Sat, Mar 9, 2013 at 9:00 PM, Mike Drew <MikeLDrew at aol.com> wrote:
>> >> >>
>> >> >>> Sounds like the venerable Jaguar straight 6. I can't tell if its a
>> >> >>> 3.8
>> >> or
>> >> >>> 4.2 so I will guess 4.0 and cover all my bases. Of course it's
>> >> >>> British.
>> >> >>> It's unlikely to be in a mk II or a D type so I am going to guess E
>> >> type.
>> >> >>> Lets say 14 sex quarter mile.
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>> How did I do?
>> >> >>> Mike
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>> Sent from my iPhone
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>> On Mar 9, 2013, at 19:45, David Fisher <fisher95020 at gmail.com>
>> >> >>> wrote:
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>>> I figure this might be a bit of fun for the weekend.  Let's see
>> >> >>>> who
>> >> can
>> >> >>> get
>> >> >>>> the highest score on this puzzle.   I was doing some fuel mapping
>> >> >>>> on a
>> >> >>> toy
>> >> >>>> last weekend.
>> >> >>>>
>> >> >>>> Take a listen to the video and tell me what it is.
>> >> >>>>
>> >> >>>> http://youtu.be/WN1GevRwtKk
>> >> >>>>
>> >> >>>> 10 pts for # of cylinders
>> >> >>>> 20 pts of displacement (within 500cc)
>> >> >>>> 10 pts for engines home country
>> >> >>>> 10 pts for guessing 0-100 mph (within 1/4 sec)
>> >> >>>> 30 pts for telling me what car it is
>> >> >>>>
>> >> >>>>
>> >> >>>> Total of 70 pts.  I'll by a burger for the winner. :-)
>> >> >>>>
>> >> >>>> David
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>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Michael L. Shortt
>> >> >> Savannah, Georgia
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