[DeTomaso] Puzzle for the gear heads

Jeff Cobb jeffcobb1 at me.com
Sun Mar 10 16:07:38 EDT 2013


hey hey Buboo, I say watch out for the forest ranger and I smell a turbo in the woods with loose sway bar links.
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On Mar 10, 2013, at 2:36 PM, David Fisher wrote:

> Ahh... you guys are a creative bunch!  Jeff has uncovered a few clues that are getting closer. 
> 
> First,  The driver is worried about shifting... partially because I have always been a "shift slow and mash the pedal guy", but partially because shifting is not very direct in this car.   I will let you take that clue from there.   
> 
> You are also correct that there is very little brake dive,     Given that most folks are narrowing in on a smaller displacement engine and I gave away the 0-100 time  (in Z06 territory) you know this has to be light.  
> 
> Thats all I am saying for now.   
> 
> 
> 
> 
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> On Sun, Mar 10, 2013 at 10:23 AM, Jeff Cobb <jeffcobb1 at me.com> wrote:
> I will go further out on a limb.
> 
> This unknown car slowly traverses low amplitude train tracks, yet you can hear the broken/loose shock top mounts allowing much vertical movement so it will be a light weight car with antiquated suspension. Yet the heavy clunks would indicate the  top suspension parts are loose in a subframe or the lowers on the axle mounts, not a body.
> 
> The driver does not feel good about truly getting on the power, as shown by the "I am worried about breaking something or  this car is hard to shift so I will short shift first gear", so we have a breaker and must be careful. So I guess 1966 to 1977.
> 
> At second 7 the quick engine rev up indicates vacuum/sliding piston carbs or a 450 +- cfm 2 barrel.
> 
> Long times between shifts indicate a cast iron four speed and a long throw or weak clutch pedal function.
> 
> Low amount of rear body dive/dip rules out the TR-6.
> 
> At second 15, the dramatic on/off sounds are so English or Ford.
> 
> The exhaust sound of second 14 to 21 wfo indicates whooshing of maybe two small diameter exhaust pipes with weak/blownout mufflers yet a large enough engine because of the throat noise, fine acceleration and no exhaust smoke.
> 
> The slowing down shows low brake dive and again no down shifting would indicate that shifting difficulty again.
> 
> So I guess a Mustang 289, TVR, modified TR-8 or Jenson V8.
> 
> Extra pickles, please.
> 
> Jeff Cobb
> 
> 
> At second 14
> On Mar 9, 2013, at 11:17 PM, David Fisher <fisher95020 at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> > Here's a clue.   This is a new toy to me - so you can eliminate the Jag E
> > type from the equation.   I like Jeff's analysis of the clatter over the
> > railroad tracks.
> >
> >
> > On Sat, Mar 9, 2013 at 6:46 PM, michael at michaelshortt.com <
> > michaelsavga at gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> >>> 10 pts for # of cylinders    6
> >>> 20 pts of displacement (within 500cc)    2.5 lier
> >>> 10 pts for engines home country            England
> >>> 10 pts for guessing 0-100 mph (within 1/4 sec)       15
> >>> 30 pts for telling me what car it is           Triumph TR-6 with Webers.
> >>
> >>
> >> Michael Shortt
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> On Sat, Mar 9, 2013 at 9:00 PM, Mike Drew <MikeLDrew at aol.com> wrote:
> >>
> >>> Sounds like the venerable Jaguar straight 6. I can't tell if its a 3.8 or
> >>> 4.2 so I will guess 4.0 and cover all my bases. Of course it's British.
> >>> It's unlikely to be in a mk II or a D type so I am going to guess E type.
> >>> Lets say 14 sex quarter mile.
> >>>
> >>> How did I do?
> >>> Mike
> >>>
> >>> Sent from my iPhone
> >>>
> >>> On Mar 9, 2013, at 19:45, David Fisher <fisher95020 at gmail.com> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> I figure this might be a bit of fun for the weekend.  Let's see who can
> >>> get
> >>>> the highest score on this puzzle.   I was doing some fuel mapping on a
> >>> toy
> >>>> last weekend.
> >>>>
> >>>> Take a listen to the video and tell me what it is.
> >>>>
> >>>> http://youtu.be/WN1GevRwtKk
> >>>>
> >>>> 10 pts for # of cylinders
> >>>> 20 pts of displacement (within 500cc)
> >>>> 10 pts for engines home country
> >>>> 10 pts for guessing 0-100 mph (within 1/4 sec)
> >>>> 30 pts for telling me what car it is
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> Total of 70 pts.  I'll by a burger for the winner. :-)
> >>>>
> >>>> David
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