[DeTomaso] "Throwaway Cars" tale

dave londry davel at emspace.com
Sun Jun 16 14:59:03 EDT 2013


Curiosity is doing the bad thing here.
If anybody can lay hands on a dead one, I'd certainly take it apart.
(and then maybe get sane and tuck it away in pile #523)
dave

On 15/06/2013 7:59 PM, Boyd Casey wrote:
> I don't find it hard to believe that a Lamborghini dealer can fix the ECU
> of a Diabblo, in fact I thought it was hard to believe that in this day and
> age with people making custom chips to over come performance limitations
> built in by the manufacturers and all the tuners thart work on electronic
> efi. The part I refuse to believe is that you can get anything done at a
> Lamborghini  shop for a few hundred bucks! Come on, who are you trying to
> kid?
> Boyd
>
> On Saturday, June 15, 2013, LS wrote:
>
>> Detomasos don't handle.
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>> Ferraris are twitchy.
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>> Diablo computers die.
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>> I love the internet!
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>> A good Lambo shop can rebuild a computer for a few hundred $$$ *IF* they
>> fail.
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>> It doesn't happen that often.
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>> LS
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>> ________________________________
>>   From: Charles Engles <cengles at cox.net <javascript:;>>
>> To: "'Himes, Terry (397C)'" <terry.himes at jpl.nasa.gov <javascript:;>>;
>> detomaso at poca.com <javascript:;>
>> Sent: Saturday, June 15, 2013 9:42 PM
>> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] "Throwaway Cars" tale
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>> Dear Terry,
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>>                       ...and from what I can tell there should be a goodly
>> supply of dead and malfunctioning Diablo main engine computers for you to
>> experiment on in order to help them keep their Diablos on the road.
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>>                                      Warmest regards,  Chuck Engles
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>> From: Himes, Terry (397C) [mailto:terry.himes at jpl.nasa.gov]
>> Sent: Saturday, June 15, 2013 4:17 PM
>> To: Charles Engles; detomaso at poca.com
>> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] "Throwaway Cars" tale
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>> Hmmm?   Gets me thinking that about part-time career opportunity.
>> Something
>> that might fund the next
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>> Pantera upgrade I've been wanting.  New brakes.   Hmmm?   Lambo owers ==
>> $$$.
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>> Terry W. Himes
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>> JPL Jet Propulsion Laboratory
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>> Deep Impact Sequence Team Lead
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>> Deep Impact Spacecraft Engineer
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>> Phone: (818) 393-6261
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>> Cell:     (818) 653-8213
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>> Fax:     (818) 393-3147
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>> thimes at jpl.nasa.gov
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>> From: Charles Engles <cengles at cox.net>
>> Date: Sat, 15 Jun 2013 15:31:58 -0500
>> To: <detomaso at poca.com>
>> Subject: [DeTomaso] "Throwaway Cars" tale
>>
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>> Dear Forum,
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>>                    A true story follows.
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>>                   A friend of mine owns a Lamborghini Diablo.  He has owned
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>> it for several years and was driving it on a backroad when it lost power.
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>> He came home on a roll back.  He thought  it was a bad oxygen sensor.
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>> Further home diagnostics seem to show that it is the main engine computer
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>> and that accounts  half of the V12 cylinders missing in action.
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>>                  When that diagnosis came up, he thought, "This is bad."   A
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>> call to our nearest Lambo dealer and service center in Dallas-Ft. Worth
>> gave
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>> him an unpleasant earful.  It seems that they have a Diablo with the same
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>> problem.  It has been in their shop for *several* months.   They have
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>> plugged three new computers into it and untold man-hours and still haven't
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>> solved the problem.   They were able to obtain the few remaining factory
>> NOS
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>> engine computers.   Lambo does not make them any more.  It appears that
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>> there is no source for a new Diablo engine computer.
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>>                  Further research showed that there are apparently two guys
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>> in the U.S. with the ability to understand the computer circuitry and code
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>> who can actually work on a sick computer rather than just replace it.  One
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>> fellow is in Ohio and the other is on the West Coast.   He'll have to put
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>> the Diablo on a transport and send it to one of them and hope they can fix
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>> it.
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>>                  The plan that occurred to me: pull the offending and
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>> uncooperative Diablo computer and install something more user
>> friendly---has
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>> already been done by other Diablo owners.  Some have converted to a Motec
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>> system that is supposed to cost about $20k..!
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>>                  After the onset of this major headache, he said that he was
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>> reminded of something that Bob Smith  (  www.bobsmithcoachworks.com ) said
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>> years ago when we were touring his fabulous Ferrari and Exotic Restoration
>>
>> Shop in Texas.   Someone in the group asked about newer Ferraris and sports
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>> cars in the post carburetor  era.
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