[DeTomaso] DB electric starter bites the dust

[Ed Pike]

Ken,

I have the brand at home and will let you know mid afternoon. I doubt it is
IMI Performance Products brand.

Thanks,

Ed...


On Mon, Jul 22, 2013 at 11:34 AM, Ken Green <kenn_green at yahoo.com> wrote:

> Ed,
>
> There are a number of high torque starters on the market, and there is one
> gear reduction starter sold under the HI TORQUE trademark by IMI
> Performance Products.  Did you have the IMI starter or another brand?
>
> Ken
>
>   *From:* Ed Pike <erjpike at gmail.com>
> *To:* Boyd Casey <boyd411 at gmail.com>; "detomaso at poca.com" <
> detomaso at poca.com>
> *Sent:* Monday, July 22, 2013 8:09 AM
> *Subject:* Re: [DeTomaso] DB electric starter bites the dust
>
> Boyd,
>
> The reason I asked is that when my car was new to me and pretty much stock
> I had the typical hot start problem. On a warm day run the car for 10
> minutes like up to the gas station shut it down to fill it. Upon restart it
> would just click . If i let it sit for 10 min it started. So I upgraded to
> a hi torque starter ( not a DB Electric ) and fixed the issue. 6 years
> later after a minor engine refresh I had some starting issues. Ended up
> replacing the hi torque starter with another one, same model same brand.
> Seemed to solve my starter issues until the weather got hot (over 85
> degrees) . On a hot day with the engine up to operation temperature if i
> shut it down and try to restart , I have a 50/50 chance of it not starting
> - no click just nothing but you can hear the rest of the electrical
> components that are on straining. If I let it sit for 15 to 30 minutes it
> will start fine. This does not happen with the air temps under 85. I think
> that if the trunk tub  is out it will start. I only had the opportunity to
> try with the tub out once. I was planning on changing to a db electric
> starter based on your earlier posts about having such good luck the
> original figuring the db electric unit is better. Now I think Jack is right
> the heat get s to the solenoid. I also suspect that the newer starters have
> a different solenoid material than the older ones.
>
> It would be interesting to see if it starts now that it is cold. I have no
> clue what direction I am going to take next. I thought I would pass this
> along to see if it helps you at all. Sorry I don't have a solution yet.
>
> Ed...
>
>
>
>
> On Mon, Jul 22, 2013 at 10:45 AM, Boyd Casey <boyd411 at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > Ed,
> > The temp was over 90 and although the car wasn't running hot ( according
> > to the thermostat) it was at operating temperature (between 180 F and 200
> > F) . I had been driving the car for around 45 minutes and as I have
> > mentioned I have been having a stall on hard braking situation and a
> > problem with my 65 amp alternator ( which I have planned to remedy with a
> > 95 amp alternator that has not arrived yet,) I was on by block
> approaching
> > my home ( last stop sign around 100 yards from my home when the car
> stalled
> > at the stop sign) When I attempted to restart the engine the starter just
> > clicked so I assumed it was an electrical problem. I first tried starting
> > it with a jump box and when that failed I removed the battery and too it
> > home and placed it on the charger. That failed to illicit a cranking
> > starter (still just a click one turn of the key , one click from the
> > solenoid. I got two of my buddies (one guy my age and his 19 year old sun
> > who is a body builder and built like a Gorilla. The three of us pushed
> the
> > car to a slow trot and I jumped in and put it in 2nd gear and it fired
> > right up.
> > Boyd
> >
> >
> > On Mon, Jul 22, 2013 at 7:49 AM, Ed Pike <erjpike at gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> >> Boyd,
> >>
> >> Was the air temperature 85 degrees or above and was the car hot?
> >>
> >> Ed...
> >>
> >>
> >> On Sun, Jul 21, 2013 at 8:25 PM, Boyd Casey <boyd411 at gmail.com> wrote:
> >>
> >>>  I can hardly believe it but my newest DB Electric starter ( second
> since
> >>> may) bit the dust after only six days. Luckily I was in front of my
> >>> house.
> >>> The starter just clicks. At first I thought it was a dead battery due
> to
> >>> my
> >>> alternator issues but after trying a jump box and then charging my new
> >>> optima red top overnight there was no change. I had been happy with DB
> >>> for
> >>> several years but this is to much of a coincidence. I am going to go
> >>> with a
> >>> US made starter. Does anyone know of a problem that can be wiping out
> >>> solenoids
> >>> Like this?
> >>> Boyd
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> >> --
> >> Thanks,
> >>
> >> Ed...
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >
>
>
> --
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>
> Ed...
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Thanks,

Ed...