[DeTomaso] Uprights
JDeRyke at aol.com
JDeRyke at aol.com
Sun Jul 14 20:02:14 EDT 2013
The main failure modes in the rear upright area are first- inadequate
press-fit of the stock ball bearings on the stub axles. Desired interference is
0.0005"-0.0009". Your billet axles should take care of that handily but you
can check it with a 5-place 0-1.5" micrometer. Unfortunately, a normal
4-place micrometer is not accurate enough. The second mode is seizure of the
internal spacer to the long stud serving as a pivot for the lower a-arm. The
seizure comes from condensation inside rusting the stock hardened-steel spacer
to the gr-5 stud, both of which are particularly sensitive to moisture
corrosion. Once seized, the only fix is to SAW the stud off at both ends, then use
a hydraulic press on the center part. Otherwise you cannot remove the lower
a-arm to further work on the stud & spacer. This is so common with
normally-ungreased rear uprights, Hall sells a kit to replace the parts destroyed by
sawing.
This problem is often addressed by adding copious grease inside the housing
to both fill the void-volume, preventing too much condensation from
forming, and also by keeping the spacer/stud lubed up so condensation doesn't
attack the sensitive parts. The stock setup requires periodic hand-greasing of
this area plus the bronze bushings at each end. No one does this. Gary Hall
sells drilled studs with zerks that first delivers grease into the space
between the stud and spacer. Then grease migrates end-wise into the pivot
bushings at each end to keep them lubed as well.
Drilling the upright for a zerk (or two) only fills the void volume,
depending on the grease used to migrate to both the end bushings. Some grease
probably also gets into the area between stud & spacer but it's a convoluted
path, so not sure how effective this is at allowing grease where-all it needs
to be. With drilled uprights, you really should also drill a hole or two in
the hardened steel spacer so grease has a direct path in between stud &
spacer. Use carbide drills and expect to break one or two.
I liked Gary's rather elegant solution, so I run that, plus some added
insurance by substituting custom 316-stainless steel lower spacers for stock
hardened-steel ones. No failures that I'm aware of by using drilled studs. I
use plastic covers on the zerk ends to keep road trash away.
As for the non-hardened mild steel spacer between the axle ball bearings,
the inboard end floats- the inner bearing is located only by the spacer &
nut-torque rather than by a machined step. The 350-500 ft-lb of torque
currently used on axle nuts slightly collapses/shortens the spacers during
installation, much like a Ford pinion sleeve in a 9" rearend. Also, when a loose-fit
axle starts moving inside its bearings, the bearings begin fretting the
spacer ends too. When you tore yours down, one or both these were probably why
the ends of the bearing spacer were indented or chewed-looking.
Most guys face this area flat; structurally, you could simply leave the
spacer ends alone with no effect on how it works, as long as the nut torque
used is high enough. And as long as the axle interference fit is tight enough
so the bearings don't start moving & again fretting the axle AND spacer.
Excessive spacer-shortening will eventually cause the splined u-joint holder
directly against the axle nut to bottom at the ends of the stub-axle splines,
producing a loose assembly even with very high nut torque. Good luck- J
Deryke
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