[DeTomaso] Fwd: Refined Brute: 1972 De Tomaso Pantera

Fri Jul 12 16:39:15 EDT 2013

If you worked out a good plan with the first one, you might be able to
stuff Subaru motors into them for less money.  $20,000 for the first one
but the next ones would be $5k and that's less than the value of the car.
Of course, after you do that the car has no value at all so...

Just thinking out loud.

sean

On Fri, Jul 12, 2013 at 2:23 PM, Brent Stewart <bjbstewart at yahoo.com> wrote:

> I brought my 2000 Porsche Boxster S to the fun rally in Arizona last year
> (didn't have access to a trailer for the Pantera) and put it on Firebird
> Raceway.  Had a GREAT time passing all the Panteras on the back curves,
> then getting passed again on the straights. :-)
>
> After a hard day's racing, I was driving back to the hotel when I saw my
> battery light come on and started to notice some steam.  Immediately pulled
> over and shut it off, and lucky I did.  Apparently I had suffered the
> dreaded water pump pulley failure, which if not caught immediately, causes
> quite disastrous head warping. With the help of some fellow PCNC'ers, I was
> able to get the car to a local shop where they were able to make the
> repairs. $1000 and a return flight to AZ a week later, I was able to drive
> home good as new.
>
> But, while I was at the repair shop, there was another 2000 boxster there
> with the engine out.  The owner was driving on Hwy 10 late at night from
> LA, and didn't happen to notice that his battery light had come on.  He DID
> warp his heads and was in the process of getting a new engine installed, to
> the tune of $18k! that's well over 2x the value of the car.
>
> Disposable is 100% right.  If the engine goes, it's scrap metal...and
> don't get me started on the dreaded IMS bearing failures (
> http://www.imsretrofit.com/)...
>
> brent
> 4328
>
>
> ________________________________
>  From: Corey Price <coreyjprice at gmail.com>
> To: "michael at michaelshortt.com" <michael at michaelshortt.com>;
> detomaso at poca.com
> Sent: Friday, July 12, 2013 10:39 AM
>  Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Fwd: Refined Brute: 1972 De Tomaso Pantera
>
>
> Amen on the Porsche Boxster.  My coworker owned one and your assessment is
> very good.
>
>
>
>
> On Jul 12, 2013, at 10:30 AM, "michael at michaelshortt.com" <
> michaelsavga at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > Try adjusting the valves and tuning up a Series 3 XKE GIANT PIA.
> >
> > Modern Porsche Boxster, if ever there was a throw away car, that's it.
> > Used car crap shoot and you can't even get to the engine.
> >
> > Without a dongle, software and a laptop, most cars after 1988 are non
> > serviceable by the average owner.
> >
> > Give me a Pantera and a dated, small town auto parts store and I bet I
> can
> > get it fixed.
> >
> > Michael Shortt
> >
> >
> > On Fri, Jul 12, 2013 at 12:24 PM, Asa Jay Laughton <asajay at asajay.com
> >wrote:
> >
> >> Best responses to date:
> >>
> >> "Oh, really?  A Pantera has problems?  Have you tried replacing the
> >> computer on a Diablo recently?"
> >>
> >> Nothing like a $200,000 paper weight that's 20 years younger than your
> >> Pantera.
> >>
> >> Just sayin'
> >> Asa
> >>
> >>
> >> Sent using Jedi mind tricks.
> >>
> >> -----Original message-----
> >> From: michael frazier <red3644 at hotmail.com>
> >> To: Pantera List <detomaso at poca.com>
> >> Sent: Fri, Jul 12, 2013 15:58:10 GMT+00:00
> >> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Fwd: Refined Brute: 1972 De Tomaso Pantera
> >>
> >> I've seen and heard it.  It seems like they think they have to apologize
> >> because its
> >>
> >> not a Lamborghini or Ferrari, instead of being greatful like they
> should.
> >> 😁
> >>
> >> Maybe a little voice tells them they had to "settle" for a Pantera
> instead
> >> of a Countach.
> >>
> >> Not me!
> >>
> >> Michael
> >>
> >> Gruppo Rompiculi Corsa
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> I read the Classic Motorsports article and it is generally positive. One
> >> thing I just don't understand is why Pantera owners always find
> something
> >> negative to say about their cars. I've seen this over and over again at
> >> car
> >> shows, in magazine articles, etc, etc. I find myself doing it
> >> occassionally so I'm not knocking anyone.
> >>
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> >
> >
> >
> >
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