[DeTomaso] R&T Article

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My doors were stamped too.



> Mike ,
> I was told that the front fenders were hammered over wooden forms And
> that's why the headlight doors are stamped with the vin # because they are
> not universally interchangeable.  If this is not factual it still made a
> good story ( but it does seem to make sense).
> Boyd
>
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> On Sat, Jul 6, 2013 at 4:43 AM, Charles McCall
> <charlesmccall at gmail.com>wrote:
>
>> Jim - the Ford era cars had their body panels stamped out with a huge
>> die.
>> Panteras of this era can be recognized by their rounded panels in the
>> engine
>> bay.
>>
>> When Ford ended the program, they destroyed the dies, thinking that this
>> would end the Pantera production for Alejandro. But he continued by
>> having
>> the panels welded (fabricated) as opposed to stamped, which is why the
>> late
>> model cars (GT5, GT5-S) have flat, fabricated engine bay panels. They
>> are
>> flat pieces of steel welded together, presumably by hand. The engine bay
>> panels are a sure way of telling whether a car was made in the Ford era
>> or
>> post-Ford era. You can see the weld lines under the black
>> undercoating...
>>
>> Charles McCall
>> Raising Pantera Awareness Across Europe
>> 1985 DeTomaso Pantera #9375
>> http://www.poca.com/index.php/gallery/?g2_itemId=2323
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>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: detomaso-bounces at poca.com [mailto:detomaso-bounces at poca.com] On
>> Behalf
>> Of Pantdino
>> Sent: sábado, 06 de julio de 2013 1:16
>> To: lashdeep at yahoo.com; MikeLDrew at aol.com; jjdetrich at gmail.com;
>> detomasoregistry at gmail.com
>> Cc: Detomaso at poca.com
>> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] R&T Article
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>> In what way were the Isos "handmade" that Panteras were not?
>>
>> >From some of the comments I have seen on the forum re the asymmetry of
>> Pantera bodies I'm not sure how they could not have been handmade--
>> those
>> were the days before robots.
>>
>> Actually I've always wondered-- were there giant stamping machines that
>> stamped out fenders and the other body panels for Panteras?
>>
>>
>> Jim
>>
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: LS <lashdeep at yahoo.com>
>> To: MikeLDrew <MikeLDrew at aol.com>; pantdino <pantdino at aol.com>;
>> jjdetrich
>> <jjdetrich at gmail.com>; detomasoregistry <detomasoregistry at gmail.com>
>> Cc: Detomaso <Detomaso at poca.com>
>> Sent: Fri, Jul 5, 2013 2:30 pm
>> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] R&T Article
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>> I haven't had the pleasure of driving a Bizz yet but have ridden in one
>> of
>> the factory Comp "rivet" cars.
>>
>> It was wonderful.
>>
>> Iso Grifos and the Rivolta coupe are also very nicely done. These cars
>> are
>> all completely handmade and the values are reflecting that now.
>>
>> LS
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>> From: "MikeLDrew at aol.com" <MikeLDrew at aol.com>
>> To: pantdino at aol.com; jjdetrich at gmail.com; detomasoregistry at gmail.com
>> Cc: Detomaso at poca.com
>> Sent: Thursday, July 4, 2013 9:39 PM
>> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] R&T Article
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>> In a message dated 7/4/13 16 15 59, pantdino at aol.com writes:
>>
>>
>> > It would probably depend on how tall the driver was.
>> >  To me it looks like the 5300 has it's engine halfway in the passenger
>> > compartment, so the heat factor would be significant unless one put in
>> tons of
>> > insulation.
>> >
>> >>>Bizzarrini was very generous in that regard.
>>
>>
>> >  And the roofline is so low there can't be much headroom in there for
>> a
>> > tall guy.
>> > > How tall is Fred?
>> >
>> > >>>About six foot two, and his friend who also drove the car is taller
>> still.  Although the roofline is low, the seating position is very
>> reclined,
>>
>> and the cabin is very long front-to-back.  It is MUCH less cramped than
>> a
>> Pantera, even though the center tunnel is much more pronounced.
>> Occupants
>> have their legs splayed to the sides, so there isn't a lot of
>> side-to-side
>> footroom.  But it's an extremely comfortable and fast car, meant to
>> crush
>> the
>> European continent in one, fast go.
>>
>> Mike
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