[DeTomaso] R&T Article

Boyd Casey boyd411 at gmail.com
Sat Jul 6 10:43:49 EDT 2013


Mike ,
I was told that the front fenders were hammered over wooden forms And
that's why the headlight doors are stamped with the vin # because they are
not universally interchangeable.  If this is not factual it still made a
good story ( but it does seem to make sense).
Boyd


On Sat, Jul 6, 2013 at 4:43 AM, Charles McCall <charlesmccall at gmail.com>wrote:

> Jim - the Ford era cars had their body panels stamped out with a huge die.
> Panteras of this era can be recognized by their rounded panels in the
> engine
> bay.
>
> When Ford ended the program, they destroyed the dies, thinking that this
> would end the Pantera production for Alejandro. But he continued by having
> the panels welded (fabricated) as opposed to stamped, which is why the late
> model cars (GT5, GT5-S) have flat, fabricated engine bay panels. They are
> flat pieces of steel welded together, presumably by hand. The engine bay
> panels are a sure way of telling whether a car was made in the Ford era or
> post-Ford era. You can see the weld lines under the black undercoating...
>
> Charles McCall
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: detomaso-bounces at poca.com [mailto:detomaso-bounces at poca.com] On
> Behalf
> Of Pantdino
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> Cc: Detomaso at poca.com
> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] R&T Article
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> In what way were the Isos "handmade" that Panteras were not?
>
> >From some of the comments I have seen on the forum re the asymmetry of
> Pantera bodies I'm not sure how they could not have been handmade-- those
> were the days before robots.
>
> Actually I've always wondered-- were there giant stamping machines that
> stamped out fenders and the other body panels for Panteras?
>
>
> Jim
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: LS <lashdeep at yahoo.com>
> To: MikeLDrew <MikeLDrew at aol.com>; pantdino <pantdino at aol.com>; jjdetrich
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> I haven't had the pleasure of driving a Bizz yet but have ridden in one of
> the factory Comp "rivet" cars.
>
> It was wonderful.
>
> Iso Grifos and the Rivolta coupe are also very nicely done. These cars are
> all completely handmade and the values are reflecting that now.
>
> LS
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> From: "MikeLDrew at aol.com" <MikeLDrew at aol.com>
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> Cc: Detomaso at poca.com
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> In a message dated 7/4/13 16 15 59, pantdino at aol.com writes:
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> > It would probably depend on how tall the driver was.
> >  To me it looks like the 5300 has it's engine halfway in the passenger
> > compartment, so the heat factor would be significant unless one put in
> tons of
> > insulation.
> >
> >>>Bizzarrini was very generous in that regard.
>
>
> >  And the roofline is so low there can't be much headroom in there for a
> > tall guy.
> > > How tall is Fred?
> >
> > >>>About six foot two, and his friend who also drove the car is taller
> still.  Although the roofline is low, the seating position is very
> reclined,
>
> and the cabin is very long front-to-back.  It is MUCH less cramped than a
> Pantera, even though the center tunnel is much more pronounced.  Occupants
> have their legs splayed to the sides, so there isn't a lot of side-to-side
> footroom.  But it's an extremely comfortable and fast car, meant to crush
> the
> European continent in one, fast go.
>
> Mike
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