[DeTomaso] R&T Article

[Charles McCall]

Jim - the Ford era cars had their body panels stamped out with a huge die.
Panteras of this era can be recognized by their rounded panels in the engine
bay. 

When Ford ended the program, they destroyed the dies, thinking that this
would end the Pantera production for Alejandro. But he continued by having
the panels welded (fabricated) as opposed to stamped, which is why the late
model cars (GT5, GT5-S) have flat, fabricated engine bay panels. They are
flat pieces of steel welded together, presumably by hand. The engine bay
panels are a sure way of telling whether a car was made in the Ford era or
post-Ford era. You can see the weld lines under the black undercoating...

Charles McCall
Raising Pantera Awareness Across Europe
1985 DeTomaso Pantera #9375
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In what way were the Isos "handmade" that Panteras were not?

>From some of the comments I have seen on the forum re the asymmetry of
Pantera bodies I'm not sure how they could not have been handmade-- those
were the days before robots.

Actually I've always wondered-- were there giant stamping machines that
stamped out fenders and the other body panels for Panteras?


Jim



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I haven't had the pleasure of driving a Bizz yet but have ridden in one of
the factory Comp "rivet" cars.

It was wonderful.

Iso Grifos and the Rivolta coupe are also very nicely done. These cars are
all completely handmade and the values are reflecting that now.

LS



 




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In a message dated 7/4/13 16 15 59, pantdino at aol.com writes:


> It would probably depend on how tall the driver was.
>  To me it looks like the 5300 has it's engine halfway in the passenger 
> compartment, so the heat factor would be significant unless one put in
tons of 
> insulation. 
> 
>>>Bizzarrini was very generous in that regard.


>  And the roofline is so low there can't be much headroom in there for a 
> tall guy.
> > How tall is Fred?
> 
> >>>About six foot two, and his friend who also drove the car is taller 
still.  Although the roofline is low, the seating position is very reclined,

and the cabin is very long front-to-back.  It is MUCH less cramped than a 
Pantera, even though the center tunnel is much more pronounced.  Occupants 
have their legs splayed to the sides, so there isn't a lot of side-to-side 
footroom.  But it's an extremely comfortable and fast car, meant to crush
the 
European continent in one, fast go.

Mike
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