[DeTomaso] World's first aftermarket Cleveland engine in production

[Will Kooiman]

404lbs would be for aluminum block, heads, water pump, etc. give or take.

I weighed 2 of my stock blocks on a bathroom scale.  Both were 174 lbs.

MME and Buttermore are not collaborating, nor is MME stealing Buttermore's
designs.  The MME block is very different from the Buttermore block.

Maybe you could say MME is stealing Buttermore's thunder - or perhaps
capitalizing on the market interest.  I doubt that Buttermore is doing
anything unique in his blocks.

The Buttermore block looks like a stock block + priority main oiling +
better mains.  It even retains the original casting numbers.

The MME block looks more like a race block.
--
Will





On 7/2/13 5:52 PM, "michael at michaelshortt.com" <michaelsavga at gmail.com>
wrote:

>Your link said 404 lbs for a built AL. Block engine, Ford says 550 lbs for
>a stock cleveland. I rounded it off to 140 lbs in weight savings.
>If you add more money, it doesn't change the power/weight ratio.
>Just makes it cost even more and gives your that much more money to add HP
>to a standard iron build.
>Of course the lighter car will handle better and be easier on tires, etc.
>This why Colin Chapman won races, lightweight cars.
>I guess the point That I was making was, unless you are super serious and
>racing, there are better ways to spend money to get a bigger bang for your
>money by simply getting more hp instead of lower weight.
>
>Michael Shortt
>On Jul 2, 2013 5:41 PM, "Daniel C Jones" <daniel.c.jones2 at gmail.com>
>wrote:
>
>> > So, give or take about 140 lbs less weight.
>> > Assuming a 3100 wet weight with 500 hp, that equals 6.2 lbs per hp vs
>> 5.92 lbs per hp for $4,000.
>>
>> I don't follow your math.  $4000 is for the bare block which gets you a
>> weight savings of 50 to 60 lbs.  You need figure in the cost of all the
>> other stuff for the 140 lbs weight savings.  Also, you'll need to add
>>the
>> cost of final block machining.  IIRC, MME was well over $1000 for the
>>block
>> machining.
>>
>> Dan Jones
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