[DeTomaso] NPC: Windows 8
Mikael
mikael_hass at mail.tele.dk
Sun Jan 27 15:33:36 EST 2013
Yesterday I updated my 15 year old son's PC with Windows 8. Easy to do, but
I don't understand the user interface, couldn't find anything. Gave it to
him so he could get used to it, told him to write down all his questions,
then I/we could google the questions and together we could sort it out. Two
hours later he came to me, no questions, he just wanted to show me what it
could do. He gave me a 10 minute lecture, pointing out all the new things he
could do, like a salesman. No need for me anymore... :-)
Mikael
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Fra: Sean Korb [mailto:spkorb at gmail.com]
Sendt: 27. januar 2013 19:57
Til: detomaso at poca.com
Emne: Re: [DeTomaso] NPC: Windows
I've got AIX for the PS/2 somewhere around here... 14 3.5 inch floppies.
On Sun, Jan 27, 2013 at 12:09 PM, Asa Jay Laughton <asajay at asajay.com>
wrote:
> Oh yea... I still have a brand new package of Windows 3.11 for
> Workgroups, still sealed, 3.5" floppies and manuals. And just in case
> I ever need it, I have a set of disks for DOS 6.22. I got rid of all
> the Windows 95 crap a while back, but I still have an install set for
> Windows 98 and XP. I also had until very recently a couple boxes of
> OS/2 version 3 and Warp 4. OS/2 still commands pretty good prices on
ebay.
>
> Asa
>
> Asa Jay Laughton, MSgt, USAFR, Retired & Shelley Marie Spokane, WA
> ******************************
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>
>
> On 1/27/2013 7:57 AM, gow2 at rc-tech.net wrote:
>> Ironically, last night we were cleaning some shelves in the basement.
>> I pulled out a 1/2 dozen windows 95 books. They are headed for the
>> wood burner if anyone want's one!
>>
>>
>>
>>> Give it another 1000 years and it will be known for what it was
>>> really worth. That's when they had realized that everyone knew to
>>> only install alternating versions of windows. Only the ones ending
>>> in an odd number worked at all.
>>>
>>> jerry
>>>
>>> On 1/26/2013 3:29 PM, michael at michaelshortt.com wrote:
>>>> You both know that Windows ME was best!
>>>>
>>>> :-)
>>>>
>>>> Michael
>>>>
>>>> On Jan 26, 2013 4:24 PM, "Jerry Knotts"<knottsj at galstar.com
>>>> <mailto:knottsj at galstar.com>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I thought XP was the cats meow. It was the first Windows that
could
>>>> emulate the 1984 Apple operating system and not have "the blue
>>>> screen of
>>>> death" occur periodically.
>>>>
>>>> Started in computers in 1965 on a RAMAC,
>>>> jerry
>>>>
>>>> On 1/26/2013 2:53 PM, Charles McCall wrote:
>>>> > That's awesome!
>>>> >
>>>> > I remember Windows 3.1... and 3.11... and how 95 would be so
>>>> great....
>>>> >
>>>> > Charles McCall
>>>> > Raising Pantera Awareness Across Europe
>>>> > 1985 DeTomaso Pantera #9375
>>>> > http://www.poca.com/index.php/gallery/?g2_itemId=2323
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> > -----Original Message-----
>>>> > From: detomaso-bounces at poca.com
>>>> <mailto:detomaso-bounces at poca.com>
>>>> [mailto:detomaso-bounces at poca.com
>>>> <mailto:detomaso-bounces at poca.com>] On Behalf
>>>> > Of gow2 at rc-tech.net<mailto:gow2 at rc-tech.net>
>>>> > Sent: sábado, 26 de enero de 2013 21:41
>>>> > To: David Fisher
>>>> > Cc: POCA list
>>>> > Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Optical turn signal control
>>>> >
>>>> > Had a guy her servicing our Laser a couple weeks ago. I talked
>>>> about doing
>>>> > things in Windows 3.1. He gave me a blank stare. I said, "you
>>>> know before
>>>> > Windows95?"......."What's Windows95?".....
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> >> It looks like you are having a lot of fun. I'll date myself,
>>>> but I
>>>> >> recall
>>>> >> making a x y milling controller off a Z80 eval board. Pretty
>>>> satisfying
>>>> >> to get all the things to work together.
>>>> >>
>>>> >> Keep all the creativity coming... love to see it.
>>>> >>
>>>> >> David
>>>> >>
>>>> >>
>>>> >>
>>>> >> On Sat, Jan 26, 2013 at 8:13 AM,<gow2 at rc-tech.net
>>>> <mailto:gow2 at rc-tech.net>> wrote:
>>>> >>
>>>> >>>> Cool stuff... do tell more...
>>>> >>>>
>>>> >>>> David
>>>> >>>>
>>>> >>>>
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>> The control for the turn signal encoder is called the
Arduino.
>>>> The
>>>> >>> Arduino
>>>> >>> is what I call "a micro controller for dummies". These type
of
>>>> platforms
>>>> >>> are becoming very popular. Arduino is one of the most popular
>>>> platforms
>>>> >>> with an enormous wealth of information.
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>> I call it a micro controller for dummies because yu don't
>>>> have to
>>>> >>> understand much about the micro controller. Configuring and
>>>> programing
>>>> >>> is
>>>> >>> basic. If you have done ANY basic level introductory program
>>>> you can
>>>> >>> follow the examples which are plentiful through Google and
>>>> books. It is
>>>> >>> just about getting the syntax right.
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>> The Arduino has a compiler (free download). The Arduino plugs
>>>> into a USB
>>>> >>> on the computer. If you want to control say a servo, in a
Micro
>>>> >>> Controller
>>>> >>> you may have to create a signal at a specific pulse width to
>>>> operate the
>>>> >>> servo. In the Arduino, you make a note in the beginning to
add
>>>> a servo,
>>>> >>> name an item a servo then tell the item to move to a
position.
>>>> It's that
>>>> >>> simple. The rest is how you nest your program to do what
>>>> you want.
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>> There is an explosion of these sort of boards right now. I
>>>> would say the
>>>> >>> Arduino is one of the most popular for this sort of
>>>> application. Radio
>>>> >>> Shack is even carrying these now; along with the LCD I use,
>>>> and intro
>>>> >>> boook, etc.
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>> Someone directed me to a new board this week which...is not
>>>> really what
>>>> >>> I
>>>> >>> need here, but is unbelievable. It is basically a computer
>>>> which runs
>>>> >>> linux in the same configuration with massive inputs and
>>>> outputs. It is
>>>> >>> called the Raspberry and is ....$35. !!!!!
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>> http://www.alliedelec.com/lp/120626raso/
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>> Back to the Arduino. I start with the "Uno" which is a
>>>> prototyping
>>>> >>> board:
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>> http://arduino.cc/en/Main/arduinoBoardUno
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>> It has 14 digital input/output pins and 6 analog input output
>>>> pins. I
>>>> >>> work
>>>> >>> out the logistics with the prototyping board then move to a
>>>> more solid
>>>> >>> solution.
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>> I have circuit boards made for the NANO which is pretty much
>>>> the same
>>>> >>> thing except it is designed to be soldered on a board:
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>> http://arduino.cc/en/Main/arduinoBoardNano
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>> The circuit boards I have made are designed to hook up the
>>>> things I need
>>>> >>> such as a voltage converter to take the voltage from 12v to
5,
>>>> sockets
>>>> >>> for thermocouple chips, encoder counters, pull up/down
>>>> resisters, mods
>>>> >>> etc. It is a flexible circuit in which I am on my 3rd
rendition.
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>> The encoder itself is not hard but the timing can be tricky.
>>>> The encoder
>>>> >>> has 2 LED emitters/detectors. They are staggered 1/2 wave.
The
>>>> logic is
>>>> >>> to
>>>> >>> read the separate waves. If both are high and one goes low,
>>>> you know
>>>> >>> which
>>>> >>> direction it is moving. Each move provides a count.
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>> The tricky spot is timing. If you are doing things in the
>>>> program when
>>>> >>> the
>>>> >>> count comes across, you will miss it. A separate chip is used
>>>> to take
>>>> >>> care
>>>> >>> of the logic. It is a very simple chip which works well for
this
>>>> >>> application. It tags the Arduino on 2 pins. One pin is an
>>>> interrupt. It
>>>> >>> gives direction and count +/- 1. The interrupt is the key
>>>> because at
>>>> >>> every
>>>> >>> count it interrupts the program and updates the count so
>>>> nothing is
>>>> >>> missed. Works very well for this application.
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>> The arduino will also manage 8 servos on the heaterbox in a
>>>> constant
>>>> >>> loop.
>>>> >>> If an input condition has changed it will turn on the servo,
>>>> move it,
>>>> >>> and
>>>> >>> turn it off.
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>> There is a whole group of conditions going on in the turn
signal
>>>> >>> process.
>>>> >>> It will control each of the 4 turn signals and flashers via a
>>>> power
>>>> >>> mosfet. It has a few things to consider; position of the
>>>> wheel, are the
>>>> >>> flashers and turn signals on at the same time, are the lights
>>>> on (the
>>>> >>> front marker is both marker and turn signal), manual
>>>> cancel, etc.
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>> I can do creative things like make the front marker both a
>>>> turn signal
>>>> >>> and
>>>> >>> a marker. If flashers and turn signals are on, I will flash
>>>> 2x, turn
>>>> >>> signal 2x, flash 2x, etc. If I leave the turn signal on for 5
>>>> min, turn
>>>> >>> them off. Things like that.
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>> he left is the prototype. The right is the actual column. You
>>>> are seeing
>>>> >>> the bottom of the column:
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>> http://www.rc-tech.net/cars2/panttransam/turn/turn3.jpg
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>> I have been working through the learning curve on the
>>>> prototype. This
>>>> >>> involves making a lot of mistakes, figuring out what I have
>>>> done and
>>>> >>> getting it right. A soldered board is so much better when
done
>>>> right the
>>>> >>> first time. As I get parts nailed down, I hope to begin
>>>> putting it
>>>> >>> together in the car Sunday with some finish wiring. So much
>>>> still to do.
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>> The mile stone for me was getting the encoder to read
reliably
>>>> without
>>>> >>> error which I have done. That above all was the hardest part.
>>>> The rest
>>>> >>> is
>>>> >>> just logistics.
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>> Gary
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>>> On Fri, Jan 11, 2013 at 2:51 PM,<gow2 at rc-tech.net
>>>> <mailto:gow2 at rc-tech.net>> wrote:
>>>> >>>>
>>>> >>>>> Here are some parts being used to build the encoder based
turn
>>>> >>> signal:
>>>> >>>>> http://www.rc-tech.net/cars2/panttransam/turn/turn.jpg
>>>> >>>>>
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