[DeTomaso] NPC - Window memories
Bill Lewis
lotus0005 at hotmail.com
Sun Jan 27 15:18:53 EST 2013
I just did a quick eBay search for sliderule, thinking that they would be rather valuable. All you old dudes must have rat-holed them - there were many listed, for $10.00 and up, mostly with Zero bids. Some exceptions. ---Bill Lewis
> To: detomaso at poca.com
> From: tmshinro at aol.com
> Date: Sun, 27 Jan 2013 13:17:31 -0500
> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] NPC - Window memories
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> Is it 3 inches long with a magnifier viewer that comes in a leather holster with a fold over top that attaches to your belt. Use to have one (wouldn't be surprised if it is still around packed away someplace).
>
> Tom
> #5186
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: John Donahue <demongusta at me.com>
> To: Tom Shinrock <tmshinro at aol.com>
> Cc: DeTomaso <DeTomaso at poca.com>
> Sent: Sun, Jan 27, 2013 12:03 pm
> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] NPC - Window memories
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> I carried a small yellow Pickett on my belt. See if anyone even knows what that
> is/was.
>
> On Jan 27, 2013, at 8:27 AM, Tom Shinrock <tmshinro at aol.com> wrote:
>
> >
> > Everyone's accounts working with early Windows versions made me smile. When
> I was in college, we still used slide rules my freshman year and when one of the
> dormies got a TI 4 function calculator (with LED display) it was like looking
> into the future. I used IBM punch cards when taking Fortran classes. PCs came
> out after I had started my first job and used DOS (I still have a Microsoft DOS
> manual). My boss only bought one PC for the engineering department because the
> price was so high and after watching a sales demo he asked me what I thought of
> the machines. I told him I could see where everyone in the office should have
> one and he looked at me like I was crazy.
> >
> > Tom (getting older by the day)
> > #5186
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: gow2 <gow2 at rc-tech.net>
> > To: Jerry Knotts <knottsj at galstar.com>
> > Cc: detomaso <detomaso at poca.com>; michael <michael at michaelshortt.com>
> > Sent: Sun, Jan 27, 2013 9:57 am
> > Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Optical turn signal control
> >
> >
> > Ironically, last night we were cleaning some shelves in the basement. I
> > pulled out a 1/2 dozen windows 95 books. They are headed for the wood
> > burner if anyone want's one!
> >
> >
> >
> >>
> >> Give it another 1000 years and it will be known for what it was really
> >> worth. That's when they had realized that everyone knew to only install
> >> alternating versions of windows. Only the ones ending in an odd number
> >> worked at all.
> >>
> >> jerry
> >>
> >> On 1/26/2013 3:29 PM, michael at michaelshortt.com wrote:
> >>>
> >>> You both know that Windows ME was best!
> >>>
> >>> :-)
> >>>
> >>> Michael
> >>>
> >>> On Jan 26, 2013 4:24 PM, "Jerry Knotts" <knottsj at galstar.com
> >>> <mailto:knottsj at galstar.com>> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> I thought XP was the cats meow. It was the first Windows that could
> >>> emulate the 1984 Apple operating system and not have "the blue
> >>> screen of
> >>> death" occur periodically.
> >>>
> >>> Started in computers in 1965 on a RAMAC,
> >>> jerry
> >>>
> >>> On 1/26/2013 2:53 PM, Charles McCall wrote:
> >>>> That's awesome!
> >>>>
> >>>> I remember Windows 3.1... and 3.11... and how 95 would be so
> >>> great....
> >>>>
> >>>> Charles McCall
> >>>> Raising Pantera Awareness Across Europe
> >>>> 1985 DeTomaso Pantera #9375
> >>>> http://www.poca.com/index.php/gallery/?g2_itemId=2323
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> -----Original Message-----
> >>>> From: detomaso-bounces at poca.com
> >>> <mailto:detomaso-bounces at poca.com>
> >>> [mailto:detomaso-bounces at poca.com
> >>> <mailto:detomaso-bounces at poca.com>] On Behalf
> >>>> Of gow2 at rc-tech.net <mailto:gow2 at rc-tech.net>
> >>>> Sent: sábado, 26 de enero de 2013 21:41
> >>>> To: David Fisher
> >>>> Cc: POCA list
> >>>> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Optical turn signal control
> >>>>
> >>>> Had a guy her servicing our Laser a couple weeks ago. I talked
> >>> about doing
> >>>> things in Windows 3.1. He gave me a blank stare. I said, "you
> >>> know before
> >>>> Windows95?"......."What's Windows95?".....
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>> It looks like you are having a lot of fun. I'll date myself,
> >>> but I
> >>>>> recall
> >>>>> making a x y milling controller off a Z80 eval board. Pretty
> >>> satisfying
> >>>>> to get all the things to work together.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Keep all the creativity coming... love to see it.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> David
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> On Sat, Jan 26, 2013 at 8:13 AM, <gow2 at rc-tech.net
> >>> <mailto:gow2 at rc-tech.net>> wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>> Cool stuff... do tell more...
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> David
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> The control for the turn signal encoder is called the Arduino.
> >>> The
> >>>>>> Arduino
> >>>>>> is what I call "a micro controller for dummies". These type of
> >>> platforms
> >>>>>> are becoming very popular. Arduino is one of the most popular
> >>> platforms
> >>>>>> with an enormous wealth of information.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> I call it a micro controller for dummies because yu don't have
> >>> to
> >>>>>> understand much about the micro controller. Configuring and
> >>> programing
> >>>>>> is
> >>>>>> basic. If you have done ANY basic level introductory program
> >>> you can
> >>>>>> follow the examples which are plentiful through Google and
> >>> books. It is
> >>>>>> just about getting the syntax right.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> The Arduino has a compiler (free download). The Arduino plugs
> >>> into a USB
> >>>>>> on the computer. If you want to control say a servo, in a Micro
> >>>>>> Controller
> >>>>>> you may have to create a signal at a specific pulse width to
> >>> operate the
> >>>>>> servo. In the Arduino, you make a note in the beginning to add
> >>> a servo,
> >>>>>> name an item a servo then tell the item to move to a position.
> >>> It's that
> >>>>>> simple. The rest is how you nest your program to do what you
> >>> want.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> There is an explosion of these sort of boards right now. I
> >>> would say the
> >>>>>> Arduino is one of the most popular for this sort of
> >>> application. Radio
> >>>>>> Shack is even carrying these now; along with the LCD I use,
> >>> and intro
> >>>>>> boook, etc.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Someone directed me to a new board this week which...is not
> >>> really what
> >>>>>> I
> >>>>>> need here, but is unbelievable. It is basically a computer
> >>> which runs
> >>>>>> linux in the same configuration with massive inputs and
> >>> outputs. It is
> >>>>>> called the Raspberry and is ....$35. !!!!!
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> http://www.alliedelec.com/lp/120626raso/
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Back to the Arduino. I start with the "Uno" which is a
> >>> prototyping
> >>>>>> board:
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> http://arduino.cc/en/Main/arduinoBoardUno
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> It has 14 digital input/output pins and 6 analog input output
> >>> pins. I
> >>>>>> work
> >>>>>> out the logistics with the prototyping board then move to a
> >>> more solid
> >>>>>> solution.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> I have circuit boards made for the NANO which is pretty much
> >>> the same
> >>>>>> thing except it is designed to be soldered on a board:
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> http://arduino.cc/en/Main/arduinoBoardNano
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> The circuit boards I have made are designed to hook up the
> >>> things I need
> >>>>>> such as a voltage converter to take the voltage from 12v to 5,
> >>> sockets
> >>>>>> for thermocouple chips, encoder counters, pull up/down
> >>> resisters, mods
> >>>>>> etc. It is a flexible circuit in which I am on my 3rd rendition.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> The encoder itself is not hard but the timing can be tricky.
> >>> The encoder
> >>>>>> has 2 LED emitters/detectors. They are staggered 1/2 wave. The
> >>> logic is
> >>>>>> to
> >>>>>> read the separate waves. If both are high and one goes low,
> >>> you know
> >>>>>> which
> >>>>>> direction it is moving. Each move provides a count.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> The tricky spot is timing. If you are doing things in the
> >>> program when
> >>>>>> the
> >>>>>> count comes across, you will miss it. A separate chip is used
> >>> to take
> >>>>>> care
> >>>>>> of the logic. It is a very simple chip which works well for this
> >>>>>> application. It tags the Arduino on 2 pins. One pin is an
> >>> interrupt. It
> >>>>>> gives direction and count +/- 1. The interrupt is the key
> >>> because at
> >>>>>> every
> >>>>>> count it interrupts the program and updates the count so
> >>> nothing is
> >>>>>> missed. Works very well for this application.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> The arduino will also manage 8 servos on the heaterbox in a
> >>> constant
> >>>>>> loop.
> >>>>>> If an input condition has changed it will turn on the servo,
> >>> move it,
> >>>>>> and
> >>>>>> turn it off.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> There is a whole group of conditions going on in the turn signal
> >>>>>> process.
> >>>>>> It will control each of the 4 turn signals and flashers via a
> >>> power
> >>>>>> mosfet. It has a few things to consider; position of the
> >>> wheel, are the
> >>>>>> flashers and turn signals on at the same time, are the lights
> >>> on (the
> >>>>>> front marker is both marker and turn signal), manual cancel,
> >>> etc.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> I can do creative things like make the front marker both a
> >>> turn signal
> >>>>>> and
> >>>>>> a marker. If flashers and turn signals are on, I will flash
> >>> 2x, turn
> >>>>>> signal 2x, flash 2x, etc. If I leave the turn signal on for 5
> >>> min, turn
> >>>>>> them off. Things like that.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> he left is the prototype. The right is the actual column. You
> >>> are seeing
> >>>>>> the bottom of the column:
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> http://www.rc-tech.net/cars2/panttransam/turn/turn3.jpg
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> I have been working through the learning curve on the
> >>> prototype. This
> >>>>>> involves making a lot of mistakes, figuring out what I have
> >>> done and
> >>>>>> getting it right. A soldered board is so much better when done
> >>> right the
> >>>>>> first time. As I get parts nailed down, I hope to begin putting
> >>> it
> >>>>>> together in the car Sunday with some finish wiring. So much
> >>> still to do.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> The mile stone for me was getting the encoder to read reliably
> >>> without
> >>>>>> error which I have done. That above all was the hardest part.
> >>> The rest
> >>>>>> is
> >>>>>> just logistics.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Gary
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>> On Fri, Jan 11, 2013 at 2:51 PM, <gow2 at rc-tech.net
> >>> <mailto:gow2 at rc-tech.net>> wrote:
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Here are some parts being used to build the encoder based turn
> >>>>>> signal:
> >>>>>>>> http://www.rc-tech.net/cars2/panttransam/turn/turn.jpg
> >>>>>>>>
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