[DeTomaso] NPC - Window memories

Asa Jay Laughton asajay at asajay.com
Sun Jan 27 12:11:43 EST 2013


At one point I still had a stack of punch cards that contained the very 
first Fortran program I ever wrote.  I haven't seen them in years so I 
must have thrown them out.  I remember taking that class at Gonzaga here 
in Spokane way back when I was in high school.  It was a special several 
week program for interested high school students.

Asa

Asa Jay Laughton, MSgt, USAFR, Retired
&  Shelley Marie
Spokane, WA
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On 1/27/2013 8:27 AM, Tom Shinrock wrote:
>   Everyone's accounts working with early Windows versions made me smile.   When I was in college, we still used slide rules my freshman year and when one of the dormies got a TI 4 function calculator (with LED display) it was like looking into the future.  I used IBM punch cards when taking Fortran classes.   PCs came out after I had started my first job and used DOS (I still have a Microsoft DOS manual).  My boss only bought one PC for the engineering department because the price was so high and after watching a sales demo he asked me what I thought of the machines.  I told him I could see where everyone in the office should have one and he looked at me like I was crazy.
>
> Tom (getting older by the day)
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: gow2<gow2 at rc-tech.net>
> To: Jerry Knotts<knottsj at galstar.com>
> Cc: detomaso<detomaso at poca.com>; michael<michael at michaelshortt.com>
> Sent: Sun, Jan 27, 2013 9:57 am
> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Optical turn signal control
>
>
> Ironically, last night we were cleaning some shelves in the basement. I
> pulled out a 1/2 dozen windows 95 books. They are headed for the wood
> burner if anyone want's one!
>
>
>
>> Give it another 1000 years and it will be known for what it was really
>> worth.  That's when they had realized that everyone knew to only install
>> alternating versions of windows.  Only the ones ending in an odd number
>> worked at all.
>>
>> jerry
>>
>> On 1/26/2013 3:29 PM, michael at michaelshortt.com wrote:
>>> You both know that Windows ME was best!
>>>
>>> :-)
>>>
>>> Michael
>>>
>>> On Jan 26, 2013 4:24 PM, "Jerry Knotts"<knottsj at galstar.com
>>> <mailto:knottsj at galstar.com>>  wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>      I thought XP was the cats meow.  It was the first Windows that could
>>>      emulate the 1984 Apple operating system and not have "the blue
>>>      screen of
>>>      death" occur periodically.
>>>
>>>      Started in computers in 1965 on a RAMAC,
>>>      jerry
>>>
>>>      On 1/26/2013 2:53 PM, Charles McCall wrote:
>>>      >  That's awesome!
>>>      >
>>>      >  I remember Windows 3.1... and 3.11... and how 95 would be so
>>>      great....
>>>      >
>>>      >  Charles McCall
>>>      >  Raising Pantera Awareness Across Europe
>>>      >  1985 DeTomaso Pantera #9375
>>>      >  http://www.poca.com/index.php/gallery/?g2_itemId=2323
>>>      >
>>>      >
>>>      >  -----Original Message-----
>>>      >  From: detomaso-bounces at poca.com
>>>      <mailto:detomaso-bounces at poca.com>
>>>      [mailto:detomaso-bounces at poca.com
>>>      <mailto:detomaso-bounces at poca.com>] On Behalf
>>>      >  Of gow2 at rc-tech.net<mailto:gow2 at rc-tech.net>
>>>      >  Sent: sábado, 26 de enero de 2013 21:41
>>>      >  To: David Fisher
>>>      >  Cc: POCA list
>>>      >  Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Optical turn signal control
>>>      >
>>>      >  Had a guy her servicing our Laser a couple weeks ago. I talked
>>>      about doing
>>>      >  things in Windows 3.1. He gave me a blank stare. I said, "you
>>>      know before
>>>      >  Windows95?"......."What's Windows95?".....
>>>      >
>>>      >
>>>      >
>>>      >
>>>      >>  It looks like you are having a lot of fun.   I'll date myself,
>>>      but I
>>>      >>  recall
>>>      >>  making a x y milling controller off a Z80 eval board.   Pretty
>>>      satisfying
>>>      >>  to get all the things to work together.
>>>      >>
>>>      >>  Keep all the creativity coming... love to see it.
>>>      >>
>>>      >>  David
>>>      >>
>>>      >>
>>>      >>
>>>      >>  On Sat, Jan 26, 2013 at 8:13 AM,<gow2 at rc-tech.net
>>>      <mailto:gow2 at rc-tech.net>>  wrote:
>>>      >>
>>>      >>>>  Cool stuff... do tell more...
>>>      >>>>
>>>      >>>>  David
>>>      >>>>
>>>      >>>>
>>>      >>>
>>>      >>>
>>>      >>>  The control for the turn signal encoder is called the Arduino.
>>> The
>>>      >>>  Arduino
>>>      >>>  is what I call "a micro controller for dummies". These type of
>>>      platforms
>>>      >>>  are becoming very popular. Arduino is one of the most popular
>>>      platforms
>>>      >>>  with an enormous wealth of information.
>>>      >>>
>>>      >>>  I call it a micro controller for dummies because yu don't have
>>> to
>>>      >>>  understand much about the micro controller. Configuring and
>>>      programing
>>>      >>>  is
>>>      >>>  basic. If you have done ANY basic level introductory program
>>>      you can
>>>      >>>  follow the examples which are plentiful through Google and
>>>      books. It is
>>>      >>>  just about getting the syntax right.
>>>      >>>
>>>      >>>  The Arduino has a compiler (free download). The Arduino plugs
>>>      into a USB
>>>      >>>  on the computer. If you want to control say a servo, in a Micro
>>>      >>>  Controller
>>>      >>>  you may have to create a signal at a specific pulse width to
>>>      operate the
>>>      >>>  servo. In the Arduino, you make a note in the beginning to add
>>>      a servo,
>>>      >>>  name an item a servo then tell the item to move to a position.
>>>      It's that
>>>      >>>  simple. The rest is how you nest your program to do what you
>>> want.
>>>      >>>
>>>      >>>  There is an explosion of these sort of boards right now. I
>>>      would say the
>>>      >>>  Arduino is one of the most popular for this sort of
>>>      application. Radio
>>>      >>>  Shack is even carrying these now; along with the LCD I use,
>>>      and intro
>>>      >>>  boook, etc.
>>>      >>>
>>>      >>>  Someone directed me to a new board this week which...is not
>>>      really what
>>>      >>>  I
>>>      >>>  need here, but is unbelievable. It is basically a computer
>>>      which runs
>>>      >>>  linux in the same configuration with massive inputs and
>>>      outputs. It is
>>>      >>>  called the Raspberry and is ....$35. !!!!!
>>>      >>>
>>>      >>>  http://www.alliedelec.com/lp/120626raso/
>>>      >>>
>>>      >>>  Back to the Arduino. I start with the "Uno" which is a
>>> prototyping
>>>      >>>  board:
>>>      >>>
>>>      >>>  http://arduino.cc/en/Main/arduinoBoardUno
>>>      >>>
>>>      >>>  It has 14 digital input/output pins and 6 analog input output
>>>      pins. I
>>>      >>>  work
>>>      >>>  out the logistics with the prototyping board then move to a
>>>      more solid
>>>      >>>  solution.
>>>      >>>
>>>      >>>  I have circuit boards made for the NANO which is pretty much
>>>      the same
>>>      >>>  thing except it is designed to be soldered on a board:
>>>      >>>
>>>      >>>
>>>      >>>  http://arduino.cc/en/Main/arduinoBoardNano
>>>      >>>
>>>      >>>  The circuit boards I have made are designed to hook up the
>>>      things I need
>>>      >>>  such as a voltage converter to take the voltage from 12v to 5,
>>>       sockets
>>>      >>>  for thermocouple chips, encoder counters, pull up/down
>>>      resisters, mods
>>>      >>>  etc. It is a flexible circuit in which I am on my 3rd rendition.
>>>      >>>
>>>      >>>  The encoder itself is not hard but the timing can be tricky.
>>>      The encoder
>>>      >>>  has 2 LED emitters/detectors. They are staggered 1/2 wave. The
>>>      logic is
>>>      >>>  to
>>>      >>>  read the separate waves. If both are high and one goes low,
>>>      you know
>>>      >>>  which
>>>      >>>  direction it is moving. Each move provides a count.
>>>      >>>
>>>      >>>  The tricky spot is timing. If you are doing things in the
>>>      program when
>>>      >>>  the
>>>      >>>  count comes across, you will miss it. A separate chip is used
>>>      to take
>>>      >>>  care
>>>      >>>  of the logic. It is a very simple chip which works well for this
>>>      >>>  application. It tags the Arduino on 2 pins. One pin is an
>>>      interrupt. It
>>>      >>>  gives direction and count +/- 1. The interrupt is the key
>>>      because at
>>>      >>>  every
>>>      >>>  count it interrupts the program and updates the count so
>>>      nothing is
>>>      >>>  missed. Works very well for this application.
>>>      >>>
>>>      >>>  The arduino will also manage 8 servos on the heaterbox in a
>>>      constant
>>>      >>>  loop.
>>>      >>>  If an input condition has changed it will turn on the servo,
>>>      move it,
>>>      >>>  and
>>>      >>>  turn it off.
>>>      >>>
>>>      >>>  There is a whole group of conditions going on in the turn signal
>>>      >>>  process.
>>>      >>>  It will control each of the 4 turn signals and flashers via a
>>>      power
>>>      >>>  mosfet. It has a few things to consider; position of the
>>>      wheel, are the
>>>      >>>  flashers and turn signals on at the same time, are the lights
>>>      on (the
>>>      >>>  front marker is both marker and turn signal), manual cancel,
>>> etc.
>>>      >>>
>>>      >>>  I can do creative things like make the front marker both a
>>>      turn signal
>>>      >>>  and
>>>      >>>  a marker. If flashers and turn signals are on, I will flash
>>>      2x, turn
>>>      >>>  signal 2x, flash 2x, etc. If I leave the turn signal on for 5
>>>      min, turn
>>>      >>>  them off. Things like that.
>>>      >>>
>>>      >>>  he left is the prototype. The right is the actual column. You
>>>      are seeing
>>>      >>>  the bottom of the column:
>>>      >>>
>>>      >>>  http://www.rc-tech.net/cars2/panttransam/turn/turn3.jpg
>>>      >>>
>>>      >>>  I have been working through the learning curve on the
>>>      prototype. This
>>>      >>>  involves making a lot of mistakes, figuring out what I have
>>>      done and
>>>      >>>  getting it right. A soldered board is so much better when done
>>>      right the
>>>      >>>  first time. As I get parts nailed down, I hope to begin putting
>>> it
>>>      >>>  together in the car Sunday with some finish wiring. So much
>>>      still to do.
>>>      >>>
>>>      >>>  The mile stone for me was getting the encoder to read reliably
>>>      without
>>>      >>>  error which I have done. That above all was the hardest part.
>>>      The rest
>>>      >>>  is
>>>      >>>  just logistics.
>>>      >>>
>>>      >>>
>>>      >>>  Gary
>>>      >>>
>>>      >>>
>>>      >>>
>>>      >>>
>>>      >>>
>>>      >>>
>>>      >>>
>>>      >>>
>>>      >>>
>>>      >>>>  On Fri, Jan 11, 2013 at 2:51 PM,<gow2 at rc-tech.net
>>>      <mailto:gow2 at rc-tech.net>>  wrote:
>>>      >>>>
>>>      >>>>>  Here are some parts being used to build the encoder based turn
>>>      >>>  signal:
>>>      >>>>>  http://www.rc-tech.net/cars2/panttransam/turn/turn.jpg
>>>      >>>>>
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