[DeTomaso] Spring rates

[Kirby Schrader]

Personally, I described GT5S 9390 to ride like a Lincoln. It was amazingly soft compared to 1661.

Of course, I have 450/650 and 1" sway bars, chassis kit, etc etc as I've said many times before.
Very similar setup to Michael Shortt's car…

Funny enough… they are sequential serial numbers! Oh… darn… forgot… I have 18: wheels.



On Jan 24, 2013, at 11:47 AM, Charles McCall <charlesmccall at gmail.com> wrote:

> Just for contrast, my GT5-S is a little different. I wouldn't define it as
> harsh, but I wouldn't say that my car "frequently bottoms out in
> depressions". 
> 
> I don't have a lot of damage to the frame rails either. My parking brake is
> a different story, as I need to fix it once a year for the safety
> inspection, and I inevitably bottom out on something the next day and trash
> it for another year... 
> 
> Charles McCall
> Raising Pantera Awareness Across Europe
> 1985 DeTomaso Pantera #9375
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: detomaso-bounces at poca.com [mailto:detomaso-bounces at poca.com] On Behalf
> Of Thomas Tornblom
> Sent: jueves, 24 de enero de 2013 17:44
> To: detomaso at poca.com
> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Spring rates
> 
> My stock GT5 is a bit too soft in the rear, it frequently bottoms out in 
> depressions, with spectacular results in the mirrors at night. :)
> 
> I should probably replace the dampers and springs sometime...
> 
> I have contemplated attaching some titanium blocks under the frame rails 
> in the rear, for even more spectacular results. :D
> 
> Thomas
> 
> 2013-01-24 15:51, Dick Koch skrev:
>> Charles and others, it would be interesting to find out from folks that
>> went to higher spring rates and the effect that had, if any, on the body
>> shell, i. e. cracking at the known weak points of the body shell.
>> 
>> When I ever get around to it, I plan to install new "heavier" springs
>> that I bought a while back.  I would like to get input from anyone that
>> has gone to stiffer springs, and has not installed additional chassis
>> stiffeners.
>> 
>> Dick Koch - Atlanta
>> 
>> On 1/23/2013 8:31 PM, Charles Engles wrote:
>>> Dear Bill,
>>> 
>>> 
>>>             You wrote:
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> "I am quite amazed at the spring rates being used  on cars which are
>>> reported to be very nice riding on the  street.
>>> 
>>>   BTW, my  car, with 200/350 springs rides like a heavy duty truck."
>>> 
>>> 
>>>          You've hit upon a Pantera phenomenon, I think.   When I changed
> my
>>> first Pantera from stock to heavier springs, I thought I would be
> cautious
>>> and scale it back a bit from the recommendations of PPC.  After the Konis
>>> and springs, it felt like a new car. The ride was fine, but pleasantly
>>> firmer than stock.
>>> 
>>>          Then several years later, I changed the suspension on my second
>>> Pantera.  I was confident enough to go a bit higher than the
> recommendations
>>> of PPC.  After the new Konis and springs, the second Pantera rode and
>>> handled as well as the first one.   I much prefer the suspension upgrade
> to
>>> the stock suspension.
>>> 
>>>         It is interesting that a large number of Pantera owners find no
>>> detriment to the ride comfort with multiples of stock spring rates.  I
> don't
>>> think that we're all deluding ourselves.  I would say the phenomenon is
>>> there.  I *think* that it is there due some excellent design
> characteristics
>>> of the suspension which obviously tolerates a wide range of higher spring
>>> rates without a wide range of unhappy owners and drivers.  FWIW.
>>> 
>>> 
>>>                Warmest regards, Chuck Engles
>>> 
>>> 
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