[DeTomaso] Spring rates

[cengles at cox.net]

Dear Thomas,


            I like the way you think.  Your Viking ancestors would be 
proud of you.


                       Warmest regards, Chuck Engles


On Thu, Jan 24, 2013 at 10:44 AM, Thomas Tornblom wrote:

> My stock GT5 is a bit too soft in the rear, it frequently bottoms out 
> in depressions, with spectacular results in the mirrors at night. :)
>
> I should probably replace the dampers and springs sometime...
>
> I have contemplated attaching some titanium blocks under the frame 
> rails in the rear, for even more spectacular results. :D
>
> Thomas
>
> 2013-01-24 15:51, Dick Koch skrev:
>> Charles and others, it would be interesting to find out from folks 
>> that
>> went to higher spring rates and the effect that had, if any, on the 
>> body
>> shell, i. e. cracking at the known weak points of the body shell.
>>
>> When I ever get around to it, I plan to install new "heavier" springs
>> that I bought a while back.  I would like to get input from anyone 
>> that
>> has gone to stiffer springs, and has not installed additional chassis
>> stiffeners.
>>
>> Dick Koch - Atlanta
>>
>> On 1/23/2013 8:31 PM, Charles Engles wrote:
>>> Dear Bill,
>>>
>>>
>>>              You wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> "I am quite amazed at the spring rates being used  on cars which are
>>> reported to be very nice riding on the  street.
>>>
>>>    BTW, my  car, with 200/350 springs rides like a heavy duty 
>>> truck."
>>>
>>>
>>>           You've hit upon a Pantera phenomenon, I think.   When I 
>>> changed my
>>> first Pantera from stock to heavier springs, I thought I would be 
>>> cautious
>>> and scale it back a bit from the recommendations of PPC.  After the 
>>> Konis
>>> and springs, it felt like a new car. The ride was fine, but 
>>> pleasantly
>>> firmer than stock.
>>>
>>>           Then several years later, I changed the suspension on my 
>>> second
>>> Pantera.  I was confident enough to go a bit higher than the 
>>> recommendations
>>> of PPC.  After the new Konis and springs, the second Pantera rode 
>>> and
>>> handled as well as the first one.   I much prefer the suspension 
>>> upgrade to
>>> the stock suspension.
>>>
>>>          It is interesting that a large number of Pantera owners 
>>> find no
>>> detriment to the ride comfort with multiples of stock spring rates. 
>>> I don't
>>> think that we're all deluding ourselves.  I would say the phenomenon 
>>> is
>>> there.  I *think* that it is there due some excellent design 
>>> characteristics
>>> of the suspension which obviously tolerates a wide range of higher 
>>> spring
>>> rates without a wide range of unhappy owners and drivers.  FWIW.
>>>
>>>
>>>                 Warmest regards, Chuck Engles
>>>
>>>
>>>
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