[DeTomaso] Ethanol "enriched" (diluted) fuel

Gray Gregory rgg at gregorycook.com
Thu Jan 10 20:41:00 EST 2013


According to that chart E-10 (reformulated gas, ethanol) is only about 2% less BTU's/gal than the conventional summer gas  111,836 vs 114,500. So what two gas formulations are you comparing?

Gray

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From: detomaso-bounces at poca.com [mailto:detomaso-bounces at poca.com] On Behalf Of michael at michaelshortt.com
Sent: Thursday, January 10, 2013 12:42 PM
To: Paul Timko
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Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Ethanol "enriched" (diluted) fuel

I would say that 10% is the upper good side, when I was testing, I was playing nice.
I seriously doubt that it would have held up to only 10% worse under more aggressive driving.

If you look at the chart I sent a link to see, the BTU deficit is much greater than 10% less.

Michael



On Thu, Jan 10, 2013 at 1:32 PM, Paul Timko <thedrol at pobox.com> wrote:

> I'm not doubting the less effectiveness of E85 or E10.  I was 
> commenting on Mike's claim that using E10 resulted in a 10% loss in MPG.
>
> Paul
> #9270
>
> On 1/10/2013 12:27 PM, michael at michaelshortt.com wrote:
> > Here's more info that shows what a major screw job is being forced 
> > upon
> us.
> >
> > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gasoline_gallon_equivalent
> >
> > Michael
> >
> >
> >
> > On Thu, Jan 10, 2013 at 1:19 PM, michael at michaelshortt.com 
> > <mailto:michael at michaelshortt.com> <michaelsavga at gmail.com 
> > <mailto:michaelsavga at gmail.com>> wrote:
> >
> >     Not using my own personal experience and multiple tanks of real
> >     world testing.
> >
> >     It is only done to subsidize the corn farmers and drive up the cost
> >     of everything else as a result.
> >
> >     a box of Corn Flakes is $4.00, just ridiculous.
> >
> >     That keeps them buying $400,000 tractors every year on the govt
> >     dime, so they can sell the old ones
> >     and keep the money.
> >
> >     Thousands of them ( one season old ) are shipped out of the country
> >     every year, many right here in Savannah.
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> >     Michael Shortt
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> >
> >
> >
> >     On Thu, Jan 10, 2013 at 1:10 PM, Paul Timko <thedrol at pobox.com
> >     <mailto:thedrol at pobox.com>> wrote:
> >
> >         Burn 10% more fuel to make up for the 10% ethanol, doesn't make
> >         sense.
> >         There must be some energy in the ethanol...  I think the actual
> >         MPG drop
> >         is around 3-4%
> >
> >         Paul
> >         #9270
> >
> >         On 1/10/2013 11:09 AM, MikeLDrew at aol.com
> >         <mailto:MikeLDrew at aol.com> wrote:
> >          > one liter of diluted gas), what they fail to tell you is that
> >         to travel a
> >          > certain distance, you need to burn about 10 percent more fuel
> >         if it is
> >          > diluted.
> >           >
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