[DeTomaso] 351w or 351c
Ed Mendez
edducati at mac.com
Thu Jan 10 16:59:05 EST 2013
Here is a block from Dart that uses a Cleveland crank and 9.5" deck with W bolt ons?
DART Ford Iron Eagle Block - Part#: 31385235
QUICK FACTS:
Main Journal Type: 351 Cleveland mains
Material: Superior iron alloy
Bore: 4.125"
Cylinder Wall Thickness: .250" min @ 4.185" bore
Cubic inch: 468" max recommended
Deck Height: 9.500"
Deck Thickness: .675" min.
Fuel Pump: Mechanical pump provision
Freeze Plugs: Std Ford press in cup plugs 1.500" OD
Head bolts: 1/2" Blind holes
Lifter Bores: Std Ford .8747" - .8757" Honed to size
Lifters: Std Ford - Hyd rollers need tie-bar style lifters.
Main journal size: 2.749" Std 351 Cleveland
Main bearing bore: 2.9415" - 2.9425" Honed to size
Main thrust width: .913" - .915"
Main Cap Bolts: #1 1/2" (2) 3/8" (2)
#2, #3, #4 1/2" (2) 7/16" splayed (2)
#5 1/2" (2) 3/8" (2)
Main cap press: .003" - .004"
Main caps: Steel - 4 bolt, all 5
Main cap register: Deep stepped register on each side (no need for dowels)
Oil system: Std Wet Sump or SVO dry sump
Priority Main oiling with external pump (wet or dry)
Oil Filter: Standard filter
Oil Pan: Standard 351W oil pan
Starter: Standard
Timing chain/gears Standard components
Timing Cover: Uses stock 351W cover
Weight, approx: 195 lbs
Main Bolt Style: 4 bolt
Steel billet Main Caps, Main Cap Bolts, Cam Bearings and Freeze Plugs Included
Stock Cam Location
On 10/01/2013, at 2:35 PM, Ed Mendez <edducati at mac.com> wrote:
> Thanks
>
> On 10/01/2013, at 1:55 PM, Ken Green <kenn_green at yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>> I'd drive it as it is and enjoy it. My experience is that if you want to drive it a lot, you'll get tired of the radical cam and want something a bit milder. If you have another engine built now with a big cam etc., and get tired of it, you will have to start over again.
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>> I guess it all depends on your intended use. If you just plan to drive to club events, it seems like a lot of trouble to swap motors. If you want to drive across the country, you may end up wanted a moderate build with EFI.
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>> Ken
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>> ________________________________
>> From: Ed Mendez <edducati at mac.com>
>> To: "detomaso at poca.com" <detomaso at poca.com>
>> Sent: Thursday, January 10, 2013 11:40 AM
>> Subject: [DeTomaso] 351w or 351c
>>
>> Hi all,
>>
>> My 71 Pantera has a built 351c in it now, I know the builder who did it and the previous owner (one of my best friends) so I know it is a well built engine and pretty radical, but it was done about 18 years ago and only broke in and started in the car but never driven; car has been in garage and off the road for 28 years. Also has a flat tapper cam. Neither of them can honestly remember what the internals or specs are, but knowing them it is as radical as you can get 18 years ago.
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>> I am sure it's a great motor, but I have the chance right now to obtain a fully built 351w new Dart Sportsman block (4 bolt splayed mains) and Dart Pro 1 CNC aluminum heads, Dart manifold and stroked to 427ci all scat internals with h-beam rods and full hydraulic roller motor. 634hp. I have an engine credit at a well established engine shop, so not going to cost me anything.
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>> My car is at a point that I can pull the motor now and do this.
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>> So, should I pull the trigger on the Winsor or just stay with the Cleveland?
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>> Does a Windsor decrease the value? Is it a good upgrade for value on the car?
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>> Or the other option is pull the Cleveland stroke it to 408, aluminum heads and roll prize it.
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>> If I do the Windsor should I keep or sell the Cleveland?
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>> So just want to get opinions for you guys.
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>> Thanks Ed
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