[DeTomaso] Ethanol "enriched" (diluted) fuel
michael@michaelshortt.com
michaelsavga at gmail.com
Thu Jan 10 14:38:38 EST 2013
I suggest that you find a station that sells 100% gas and do you own
experiment with this over several tank fulls and arrive at a real world
conclusion, that's what I did.
In addition to the cost about being the same, one could also look at the
additional negative affects of ethanol on your car.
I also liked the way the car performed better with 100% gas.
Michael
On Thu, Jan 10, 2013 at 2:34 PM, Paul Timko <thedrol at pobox.com> wrote:
> I'm confused. I looked at the chart and E85 BTU deficit is indeed way
> worse than 10%. It is down around 30%. But that's not the fuel I'm
> referencing. My reference is to the 10% ethanol blend and cccording to the
> chart, the blended fuels are more like 3% down on gasoline.
>
> Paul
> #9270
>
> On 1/10/2013 12:41 PM, michael at michaelshortt.com wrote:
>
>> I would say that 10% is the upper good side, when I was testing, I was
>> playing nice.
>> I seriously doubt that it would have held up to only 10% worse under
>> more aggressive
>> driving.
>>
>> If you look at the chart I sent a link to see, the BTU deficit is much
>> greater than 10% less.
>>
>> Michael
>>
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Jan 10, 2013 at 1:32 PM, Paul Timko <thedrol at pobox.com
>> <mailto:thedrol at pobox.com>> wrote:
>>
>> I'm not doubting the less effectiveness of E85 or E10. I was
>> commenting
>> on Mike's claim that using E10 resulted in a 10% loss in MPG.
>>
>> Paul
>> #9270
>>
>> On 1/10/2013 12:27 PM, michael at michaelshortt.com
>> <mailto:michael at michaelshortt.**com <michael at michaelshortt.com>>
>> wrote:
>> > Here's more info that shows what a major screw job is being
>> forced upon us.
>> >
>> > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/**Gasoline_gallon_equivalent<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gasoline_gallon_equivalent>
>> >
>> > Michael
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > On Thu, Jan 10, 2013 at 1:19 PM, michael at michaelshortt.com
>> <mailto:michael at michaelshortt.**com <michael at michaelshortt.com>>
>> > <mailto:michael at michaelshortt.**com <michael at michaelshortt.com>
>> <mailto:michael at michaelshortt.**com <michael at michaelshortt.com>>> <
>> michaelsavga at gmail.com
>> <mailto:michaelsavga at gmail.com**>
>> > <mailto:michaelsavga at gmail.com <mailto:michaelsavga at gmail.com**>>>
>> wrote:
>> >
>> > Not using my own personal experience and multiple tanks of real
>> > world testing.
>> >
>> > It is only done to subsidize the corn farmers and drive up
>> the cost
>> > of everything else as a result.
>> >
>> > a box of Corn Flakes is $4.00, just ridiculous.
>> >
>> > That keeps them buying $400,000 tractors every year on the govt
>> > dime, so they can sell the old ones
>> > and keep the money.
>> >
>> > Thousands of them ( one season old ) are shipped out of the
>> country
>> > every year, many right here in Savannah.
>> >
>> > Want to see photos of them, send me a email, I'll show you.
>> >
>> > Michael Shortt
>> >
>> > It's a F*&%^ing racket!
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > On Thu, Jan 10, 2013 at 1:10 PM, Paul Timko
>> <thedrol at pobox.com <mailto:thedrol at pobox.com>
>> > <mailto:thedrol at pobox.com <mailto:thedrol at pobox.com>>> wrote:
>> >
>> > Burn 10% more fuel to make up for the 10% ethanol,
>> doesn't make
>> > sense.
>> > There must be some energy in the ethanol... I think the
>> actual
>> > MPG drop
>> > is around 3-4%
>> >
>> > Paul
>> > #9270
>> >
>> > On 1/10/2013 11:09 AM, MikeLDrew at aol.com
>> <mailto:MikeLDrew at aol.com>
>> > <mailto:MikeLDrew at aol.com <mailto:MikeLDrew at aol.com>>
>> wrote:
>> > > one liter of diluted gas), what they fail to tell you
>> is that
>> > to travel a
>> > > certain distance, you need to burn about 10 percent
>> more fuel
>> > if it is
>> > > diluted.
>> > >
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