[DeTomaso] Parts car?

Wed Jan 9 21:29:24 EST 2013

Yup add me to the list. I just can not swing a 40K car. Plane and simple,
but I can swing a few grand at a time. With a 30 year project you can end up
with a car, and I will someday. I do 99% of the work myself. I know how,
have the tools, and have the shop. Now if I could find the time!!

I don't think I get attached to things. But I do have my car from high
school, first knife, first gun, first saxophone, first tool set....I better
stop.

Larry (keeps loosing woman) - Cleveland

-----Original Message-----
From: detomaso-bounces at poca.com [mailto:detomaso-bounces at poca.com] On Behalf
Of Corey Price
Sent: Wednesday, January 09, 2013 5:37 PM
To: gow2 at rc-tech.net
Cc: detomaso at poca.com
Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Parts car?

I'm with Gary here.  For me, it's not about the money, it's about having a
good time and building what I want.  I was warned to not buy a project,
didn't listen, and I'm still happy with my decision.  It's been fun and I
bought a good canvas that needs a little straightening here and there.  I
respect the people who tried to warn me a great deal, but it isn't always
cut & dry.

I bought my Pantera for a decent price. It is much more sound than the car
that this topic is about.  It really doesn't have rust as far as I can tell,
even after being examined thoroughly over the last two years.  The part with
the most rust are the headlight buckets which were completely original with
original paint, and they aren't that bad really.  Now the engine is a
different story, but it was a virgin block so no need to throw it away.

I've been able to trade and buy used parts and it hasn't been that bad.
Between all the new parts the car came with and the ones I've traded for or
purchased, I have most of the interior, almost all exterior parts in nearly
new or new form, and a completely rebuilt suspension and brake system.  Best
part is that I still have only about $16k into it.  Yes, I still need to
rebuild the engine and paint the car. Yes, I need a ZF.  It will come.  

A chinese saying fits this- man who says "it cannot be done" should not
interrupt the man who is doing it.

Corey

On Jan 9, 2013, at 12:33 PM, gow2 at rc-tech.net wrote:

> My car looked pretty nice when I started; but I knew the truth. If I had
> bought a rough car for $10,000 less the amount of work I put into it would
> not have been that much different.
> 
> It is easy to take some nice photos of a car which really needs more of a
> make over then it seems. The make over being very similar to a car being
> $15,000 or a car being $40,000.
> 
> If, like me, there is no better gratification then to build the car you
> want, with your ideas, to your specification. In this respect I would much
> prefer to buy a car I can work with then buy a car which is done. The
> photos of the red car show it may have a lot of underlying issues but the
> photos of the $40,000 car may very well be the same car with a nice paint
> job.
> 
> I don't see $15,000 out of bounds for a Pantera in rough shape with all
> it's parts. There is very little difference in a total rebuild of that and
> a car with issues with a shiny coat of paint.
> 
> This is what I started with.
> 
> Before:
> http://www.rc-tech.net/cars2/panttransam/gal/71pantera04small.jpg
> http://www.rc-tech.net/cars2/panttransam/gal/71pantera05small.jpg
> http://www.rc-tech.net/cars2/panttransam/gal/bothb.jpg
> 
> 
> 
> Now:
> http://www.rc-tech.net/cars2/panttransam/gal/Photo%202.jpg
> http://www.rc-tech.net/cars2/panttransam/ei/ei2.jpg
> http://www.rc-tech.net/cars2/panttransam/dash/Dash1.jpg
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
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> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
>> " We all know that the cost of a restoration like this will far exceed
>> what
>> one could possibly sell the finished car for ", that's often true.
>> But...you'll then have a car where all wear parts are new, every bolt is
>> tightened properly, it's all done to your standards, right? I think we've
>> all sometimes bought cars that worked fine, were shiny, and a lot of
money
>> spent. But after getting to know it better you find a little rust, plenty
>> of
>> loose bolts, wiring done by a 15 year old in a hurry, things attached
with
>> only half the fasteners etc. If you want your own standards, you have to
>> do
>> it all yourself. Even though it's not financially the best thing.
>> 
>> Mikael
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> -----Oprindelig meddelelse-----
>> Fra: Stephen Nelson [mailto:steve at snclocks.com]
>> Sendt: 9. januar 2013 19:13
>> Til: detomaso at POCA.com
>> Emne: Re: [DeTomaso] Parts car?
>> 
>> We all know that the cost of a restoration like this will far exceed what
>> one could possibly sell the finished car for - even billing ones own time
>> at
>> $0.10 per hour.  What is it worth - I'd say more like $1K, if even that.
>> Unless one just really wants to pour a lot of money and love into it and
>> is
>> willing to take a pricey bath for the joy of the work.
>> 
>> IMHO
>> 
>> Stephen Nelson
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: detomaso-bounces at poca.com [mailto:detomaso-bounces at poca.com] On
>> Behalf
>> Of John
>> Sent: Wednesday, January 09, 2013 10:04 AM
>> To: MikeLDrew at aol.com
>> Cc: detomaso at POCA.com; tcabanski at tencom.com
>> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Parts car?
>> 
>> Way sub 10K, More like 5K
>> 
>> JP-Texas
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>> On Jan 9, 2013, at 11:44 AM, MikeLDrew at aol.com wrote:
>> 
>>> 
>>> In a message dated 1/9/13 8 20 27, tcabanski at tencom.com writes:
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> http://www.jameslist.com/cars/detomaso/pantera/de-tomaso-for-sale-596
>>>> 391
>>>> 
>>>> Can it be restored?
>>>> 
>>>> I don't think so.
>>> 
>>>>>> Why not?   It looks like it's been stored outside under a cover, so
>>>>>> the
>>> body is filled with rust, making it a lot of work, but structurally it
>>> may
>> 
>>> well be okay?   In any case, it's far from impossible.   But the asking
>> price
>>> is ridiculous.   This is a sub-$10K car.
>>> 
>>> Mike
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