[DeTomaso] 2014 calender

clarkewilma cwhamm at frontier.com
Sun Dec 22 18:37:11 EST 2013


Hi Guys,

Thanks for responding. How do I get one.

Clarke Hamm 7350

 

From: Bill Lewis [mailto:lotus0005 at hotmail.com] 
Sent: Sunday, December 22, 2013 3:24 PM
To: PANTERA-JohnTaphorn; clarkewilma; detomaso at poca.com
Subject: RE: [DeTomaso] 2014 calender

 

Well, I read this email AFTER I just sent my email!!   Doh!!   So, we either
have a 16 month, or an 18 month calendar - anyway, it's a bunch of great
pictures of beautiful Panteras.    ---BILL Lewis

> Date: Sun, 22 Dec 2013 16:38:27 -0600
> From: jtaphorn at kingwoodcable.com
> To: cwhamm at frontier.com; detomaso at poca.com
> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] 2014 calender
> 
> Yes
> 
> Space City Panteras has an 18 month calendar starting 12/13. It is 
> available for $10 plus shipping
> 
> JT
> On 12/22/2013 11:18 AM, clarkewilma wrote:
> > Does anybody know if the is a Pantera calendar out this year?
> > Clarke 7350
> >
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> > 1. Re: Electric Choke, yes or no? (Janne M?ki-Pet?j?)
> > 2. What are the odds.... (Mike Drew)
> > 3. Re: What are the odds.... (Janne M?ki-Pet?j?)
> > 4. Re: What are the odds.... (Christopher Kimball)
> > 5. Re: What are the odds.... (Bjoern Flesland)
> > 6. Re: What are the odds.... (Julian Kift)
> > 7. Re: What are the odds.... (Bill Moore)
> > 8. Re: What are the odds.... (Mike Becker)
> > 9. Rear deck lid hinge (jeepinfool2001 at aol.com)
> > 10. Re: Rear deck lid hinge (MikeLDrew at aol.com)
> > 11. Re: What are the odds.... (MikeLDrew at aol.com)
> > 12. Re: What are the odds.... (steven.liebenow at att.net)
> > 13. Re: What are the odds.... (Mike Thomas)
> > 14. Re: What are the odds.... (John Taphorn)
> > 15. Re: Electric Choke, yes or no? (Will Kooiman)
> > 16. Re: What are the odds.... (Bill Lewis)
> > 17. NPC: Christmas dog.... (MikeLDrew at aol.com)
> > 18. Rear deck lid hinge (rfmccall at comcast.net)
> > 19. Rear deck lid hinge (rfmccall at comcast.net)
> >
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> > Message: 1
> > Date: Fri, 20 Dec 2013 22:00:19 +0200
> > From: Janne M?ki-Pet?j? <eb0711 at kolumbus.fi>
> > To: detomaso at poca.com
> > Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Electric Choke, yes or no?
> > Message-ID: <52B4A1D3.4 at kolumbus.fi>
> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed
> >
> >
> > Although it's not often seen, it's entirely possible to use metal choke
tube
> > connected to manifold heat source, with electric choke as well.
> > That'll give a heat source to the coil always when the engine is warm,
and
> > choke will still go off electrically little faster when it's cold.
> >
> > Janne
> >
> > 19.12.2013 22.09, Mikael kirjoitti:
> >> A word about electric chokes, I know this is not what was asked, but
> >> that won't stop me...
> >>
> >> On my Longchamp, semi-mild daily driver, yes definitely an electric
choke.
> >>
> >> But on a Pantera, especially a fast one, I wouldn't want one. I would
> >> rather rev it a bit with the throttle for the first minutes. The main
> >> problem with an electric choke (connected to proper 12V) is that if
> >> you leave the car parked for an hour and get back and start it, the
> >> choke will be fully on and take a little while to go off, and the
> >> engine doesn't need it. That means too rich mixture for a while, which
> >> washes oil off the cylinder walls. And if you have a high performance
> >> engine with narrow tuning tolerances and colder plugs, maybe even race
> >> plugs, the plugs can foul up due to this choke action. If you then do
> >> the wrong thing, look at your plugs and conclude that you need more
> >> lean jetting, then it really starts to get dangerous. In short, high
> >> performance engines shouldn't have an electric choke, it should have
> >> manual cable operated choke (difficult in a Pantera) or no choke at
> >> all. Divorced chokes are a bit better than electric chokes, but rarely
> > seen these days.
> >> (And on a totally unscientific note: The sound of the engine when
> >> almost warm, idling just above the rpm where it would die, that sound
> >> is fantastic)
> >>
> >>
> >> Just my $0.02
> >>
> >> Mvh/Regards
> >> Mikael
> >>
> >> -----Oprindelig meddelelse-----
> >> Fra: John Buckman [mailto:jb841 at cox.net]
> >> Sendt: 19. december 2013 19:17
> >> Til: detomaso at poca.com
> >> Emne: Re: [DeTomaso] Electric Choke
> >>
> >> Why are we running a new wire? I just used the wire that is in the
> >> OEM loom. It still works great. Look at your wiring diagram.
> >>
> >>
> >>>>> The short answer is that connecting the electric choke to the
> >>>>> existing
> >> ignition wire can act as a rev limiter for your ignition system.
> >>
> >> If you do not use a relay, and if you are not using the factory
> >> throttler position solenoid, there will be a red wire at the
> >> (approximate) center of the firewall that can be extended to the new
> >> electric choke's PLUS (+) terminal.
> >>
> >> John
> >>
> >>
> >>
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> >
> > ------------------------------
> >
> > Message: 2
> > Date: Fri, 20 Dec 2013 14:08:58 -0800
> > From: Mike Drew <MikeLDrew at aol.com>
> > To: detomaso at poca.com
> > Cc: mangusta at mangustainternational.com, Roger Brotton
> > <rogerkbrotton at yahoo.com>, "<mangusta1 at comcast.net>"
> > <mangusta1 at comcast.net>, Fred <fred at focusauto.com>,
> > steven.liebenow at att.net
> > Subject: [DeTomaso] What are the odds....
> > Message-ID: <53BCB90B-E03F-4B8A-B0D6-49D695F1EBF1 at aol.com>
> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
> >
> > ....that you are just driving around, happen to come up to a stoplight,
and
> > find this sitting in front of you!
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> > Mike
> >
> >
> > Sent from my iPhone
> >
> > ------------------------------
> >
> > Message: 3
> > Date: Sat, 21 Dec 2013 00:12:03 +0200
> > From: Janne M?ki-Pet?j? <eb0711 at kolumbus.fi>
> > To: detomaso at poca.com
> > Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] What are the odds....
> > Message-ID: <52B4C0B3.1080000 at kolumbus.fi>
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> >
> > Pretty close to zero...
> > -Janne
> >
> > 21.12.2013 0.08, Mike Drew kirjoitti:
> >> ....that you are just driving around, happen to come up to a stoplight,
> > and find this sitting in front of you!
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Mike
> >>
> >>
> >> Sent from my iPhone
> >>
> >>
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> > Message: 4
> > Date: Fri, 20 Dec 2013 14:14:28 -0800
> > From: Christopher Kimball <chrisvkimball at msn.com>
> > To: Mike Drew <mikeldrew at aol.com>, Pantera list serve
> > <detomaso at poca.com>
> > Cc: Roger Brotton <rogerkbrotton at yahoo.com>,
> > "mangusta at mangustainternational.com"
> > <mangusta at mangustainternational.com>, Fred <fred at focusauto.com>,
> > "mangusta1 at comcast.net" <mangusta1 at comcast.net>,
> > "steven.liebenow at att.net" <steven.liebenow at att.net>
> > Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] What are the odds....
> > Message-ID: <SNT146-W60F19B0F816F14CD5A7F6BCC40 at phx.gbl>
> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
> >
> > The pickup-truck owner responded to the ad, "Cool sports car for sale.
> > Needs work. Would make a great Christmas gift." :) Merry Christmas
> > everyone!
> > Sincerely,
> > Chris
> >
> > From: MikeLDrew at aol.com
> > Date: Fri, 20 Dec 2013 14:08:58 -0800
> > To: detomaso at poca.com
> > CC: mangusta at mangustainternational.com; rogerkbrotton at yahoo.com;
> > mangusta1 at comcast.net; fred at focusauto.com; steven.liebenow at att.net
> > Subject: [DeTomaso] What are the odds....
> >
> > ....that you are just driving around, happen to come up to a stoplight,
and
> > find this sitting in front of you!
> > 
> >
> > Mike
> >
> >
> > Sent from my iPhone
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> >
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> > Message: 5
> > Date: Fri, 20 Dec 2013 23:13:59 +0100
> > From: Bjoern Flesland <bflesland at gmail.com>
> > To: "detomaso at poca.com" <detomaso at poca.com>
> > Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] What are the odds....
> > Message-ID:
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> > Cool....If you are in Cali the odds are much bigger than elsewhere,
IMO...
> > Cheers Bjoern
> >
> >
> >
> > On Fri, Dec 20, 2013 at 11:08 PM, Mike Drew <MikeLDrew at aol.com> wrote:
> >> ....that you are just driving around, happen to come up to a stoplight,
> > and find this sitting in front of you!
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Mike
> >>
> >>
> >> Sent from my iPhone
> >> _______________________________________________
> >>
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> >
> > ------------------------------
> >
> > Message: 6
> > Date: Fri, 20 Dec 2013 14:37:23 -0800
> > From: Julian Kift <julian_kift at hotmail.com>
> > To: "MikeLDrew at aol.com" <mikeldrew at aol.com>, De Tomaso List
> > <detomaso at poca.com>
> > Cc: Roger Brotton <rogerkbrotton at yahoo.com>,
> > "mangusta at mangustainternational.com"
> > <mangusta at mangustainternational.com>, Fred <fred at focusauto.com>,
> > "mangusta1 at comcast.net" <mangusta1 at comcast.net>,
> > "steven.liebenow at att.net" <steven.liebenow at att.net>
> > Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] What are the odds....
> > Message-ID: <BAY173-W468B1E9128434904B767F095C40 at phx.gbl>
> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
> >
> > Well if you explore the odds, they would nominally be about 1 in 401 on
a
> > simple math basis I guess.
> > 
> > Actually having that sit in front of you maybe one thing, but are you
> > telling us you didn't jump out and almost accost the driver to find out
> > more?
> > 
> > Julian
> > 
> > From: MikeLDrew at aol.com
> > Date: Fri, 20 Dec 2013 14:08:58 -0800
> > To: detomaso at poca.com
> > CC: mangusta at mangustainternational.com; rogerkbrotton at yahoo.com;
> > mangusta1 at comcast.net; fred at focusauto.com; steven.liebenow at att.net
> > Subject: [DeTomaso] What are the odds....
> >
> > ....that you are just driving around, happen to come up to a stoplight,
and
> > find this sitting in front of you!
> > 
> >
> > Mike
> >
> >
> > Sent from my iPhone
> > _______________________________________________
> >
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> > Message: 7
> > Date: Fri, 20 Dec 2013 15:43:05 -0700
> > From: "Bill Moore" <bill at incendium.com>
> > To: "'Mike Drew'" <MikeLDrew at aol.com>, <detomaso at poca.com>
> > Cc: 'Roger Brotton' <rogerkbrotton at yahoo.com>,
> > mangusta at mangustainternational.com, 'Fred' <fred at focusauto.com>,
> > mangusta1 at comcast.net, steven.liebenow at att.net
> > Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] What are the odds....
> > Message-ID:
> > 
> >
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> > 
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> > Comeonmike, did you get the s/n ????
> >
> >
> > Cheers:
> >
> > Please use my bill at incendium.com email address in all messages.
> >
> > Bill Moore
> > Incendium Supply Ltd.
> > Suite 416, #305-4625 Varsity Drive N.W.
> > Calgary, AB T3A 0Z9
> > 403.202.0055
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: DeTomaso [mailto:detomaso-bounces at poca.com] On Behalf Of Mike Drew
> > Sent: December-20-13 3:09 PM
> > To: detomaso at poca.com
> > Cc: mangusta at mangustainternational.com; Roger Brotton;
> > <mangusta1 at comcast.net>; Fred; steven.liebenow at att.net
> > Subject: [DeTomaso] What are the odds....
> >
> > ....that you are just driving around, happen to come up to a stoplight,
and
> > find this sitting in front of you!
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > ------------------------------
> >
> > Message: 8
> > Date: Fri, 20 Dec 2013 14:57:51 -0800
> > From: Mike Becker <mikebecker at cox.net>
> > To: Mike Drew <MikeLDrew at aol.com>, detomaso at poca.com
> > Cc: Roger Brotton <rogerkbrotton at yahoo.com>,
> > mangusta at mangustainternational.com, Fred <fred at focusauto.com>,
> > "<mangusta1 at comcast.net>" <mangusta1 at comcast.net>,
> > steven.liebenow at att.net
> > Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] What are the odds....
> > Message-ID: <roccy8xosc88jxl2x17sb8qs.1387579011250 at email.android.com>
> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
> >
> > That is pretty unusual, a trailer with two functioning brake lights.
> >
> >
> > Sent from my Samsung Galaxy S?4
> >
> > -------- Original message --------
> > From: Mike Drew <MikeLDrew at aol.com>
> > Date:12/20/2013 14:08 (GMT-08:00)
> > To: detomaso at poca.com
> > Cc: mangusta at mangustainternational.com,Roger Brotton
> > <rogerkbrotton at yahoo.com>,"<mangusta1 at comcast.net>"
> > <mangusta1 at comcast.net>,Fred
<fred at focusauto.com>,steven.liebenow at att.net
> > Subject: [DeTomaso] What are the odds....
> >
> > ....that you are just driving around, happen to come up to a stoplight,
and
> > find this sitting in front of you!
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Mike
> >
> >
> > Sent from my iPhone
> > _______________________________________________
> >
> > Detomaso Forum Managed by POCA
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> > Message: 9
> > Date: Fri, 20 Dec 2013 17:59:53 -0500 (EST)
> > From: jeepinfool2001 at aol.com
> > To: detomaso at poca.com
> > Subject: [DeTomaso] Rear deck lid hinge
> > Message-ID: <8D0CBEE53F7A80B-F04-30A9E at webmail-d228.sysops.aol.com>
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> >
> > I'm in need of a drivers side rear deck lid hinge assembly for a early
71
> > Pantera. If anyone has a line on one please let me know.
> >
> > Thanks
> > Mark Mensen
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> > Message: 10
> > Date: Fri, 20 Dec 2013 18:32:40 -0500 (EST)
> > From: MikeLDrew at aol.com
> > To: jeepinfool2001 at aol.com, detomaso at poca.com
> > Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Rear deck lid hinge
> > Message-ID: <b94f4.738a2777.3fe62d98 at aol.com>
> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
> >
> >
> > In a message dated 12/20/13 15 00 58, jeepinfool2001 at aol.com writes:
> >
> >
> >> I'm in need of a drivers side rear deck lid hinge assembly for a early
> >> 71 Pantera. If anyone has a line on one please let me know.
> >>
> >>>> Wilkinson lists them for only $23.78 on his website, with an
> >>>> additional
> > $16.27 for the pin. Not bad!
> >
> > Let us know if those prices aren't correct?
> >
> > I actually have a pair of hinges available, but they come with a perfect
> > decklid attached, for rather more than that!
> >
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> > Message: 11
> > Date: Fri, 20 Dec 2013 18:33:32 -0500 (EST)
> > From: MikeLDrew at aol.com
> > To: julian_kift at hotmail.com, detomaso at poca.com
> > Cc: rogerkbrotton at yahoo.com, mangusta at mangustainternational.com,
> > fred at focusauto.com, mangusta1 at comcast.net, steven.liebenow at att.net
> > Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] What are the odds....
> > Message-ID: <b94f7.25c6f272.3fe62dcc at aol.com>
> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
> >
> >
> > In a message dated 12/20/13 14 37 25, julian_kift at hotmail.com writes:
> >
> >
> >> Well if you explore the odds, they would nominally be about 1 in 401
> >> on a simple math basis?I guess.
> >> ?
> >> Actually having that sit in front of you maybe one thing, but are you
> >> telling us you didn't jump out and?almost accost the driver to find out
> > more?
> >>>> Nah, didn't need to. It's Steve Klunk. He's not a club member, but
> > he has hosted PCNC when we visited his house (and several other non-club
> > members) on the Concours de la Garage tour in 2007:
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > He bought this Mangusta as a non-running project and it has been sitting
in
> > his garage, not being restored, for more than 20 years, but he finally
> > started working on it in earnest awhile ago.
> >
> > Today, he was hauling it away from the industrial park at Sears Point
> > Raceway, so presumably some mechanical or paint/body work had been
completed
> >
> > there. We just caught him at the light and he turned right, we were
unable
> > to
> > follow due to oncoming traffic, and he was on the highway and gone....
> >
> > Mike
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> > Message: 12
> > Date: Fri, 20 Dec 2013 15:38:58 -0800 (PST)
> > From: steven.liebenow at att.net
> > To: "MikeLDrew at aol.com" <MikeLDrew at aol.com>, "julian_kift at hotmail.com"
> > <julian_kift at hotmail.com>, "detomaso at poca.com"
> > <detomaso at poca.com>
> > Cc: "rogerkbrotton at yahoo.com" <rogerkbrotton at yahoo.com>,
> > "mangusta at mangustainternational.com"
> > <mangusta at mangustainternational.com>, "fred at focusauto.com"
> > <fred at focusauto.com>, "mangusta1 at comcast.net"
> > <mangusta1 at comcast.net>
> > Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] What are the odds....
> > Message-ID:
> > <1387582738.74064.YahooMailNeo at web184302.mail.ne1.yahoo.com>
> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
> >
> > Hopefully it wasn't the same shop that chopped up Gali's sway bar mounts
> > when they were working on it.....or perhaps it was Steve's
car......doh!!!
> >
> > S
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > ________________________________
> > From: "MikeLDrew at aol.com" <MikeLDrew at aol.com>
> > To: julian_kift at hotmail.com; detomaso at poca.com
> > Cc: mangusta at mangustainternational.com; rogerkbrotton at yahoo.com;
> > mangusta1 at comcast.net; fred at focusauto.com; steven.liebenow at att.net
> > Sent: Friday, December 20, 2013 3:33 PM
> > Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] What are the odds....
> > 
> >
> >
> >
> > In a message dated 12/20/13 14 37 25, julian_kift at hotmail.com writes:
> >
> >
> >
> > Well if you explore the odds, they would nominally be about 1 in 401 on
a
> > simple math basis?I guess.
> >> ?
> >> Actually having that sit in front of you maybe one thing, but are you
> > telling us you didn't jump out and?almost accost the driver to find out
> > more?
> >>>> Nah, didn't need to.? It's Steve Klunk.? He's not a club member, but
he
> > has hosted PCNC when we visited his house (and several other non-club
> > members) on the Concours de la Garage tour in 2007:
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > He bought this Mangusta as a non-running project and it has been sitting
in
> > his garage, not being restored, for more than 20 years, but he finally
> > started working on it in earnest awhile ago.?
> >
> > Today, he was hauling it away from the industrial park at Sears Point
> > Raceway, so presumably some mechanical or paint/body work had been
completed
> > there.? We just caught him at the light and he turned right, we were
unable
> > to follow due to oncoming traffic, and he was on the highway and
gone....
> >
> > Mike
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> > Message: 13
> > Date: Fri, 20 Dec 2013 15:40:29 -0800
> > From: "Mike Thomas" <mbefthomas at comcast.net>
> > To: "'Mike Drew'" <MikeLDrew at aol.com>, <detomaso at poca.com>
> > Cc: 'Roger Brotton' <rogerkbrotton at yahoo.com>,
> > mangusta at mangustainternational.com, 'Fred' <fred at focusauto.com>,
> > mangusta1 at comcast.net, steven.liebenow at att.net
> > Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] What are the odds....
> > Message-ID: <029001cefddc$de4158a0$9ac409e0$@comcast.net>
> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
> >
> > I hope you followed him and found out more about it . . .
> > Nice project.
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: DeTomaso [mailto:detomaso-bounces at poca.com] On Behalf Of Mike Drew
> > Sent: Friday, December 20, 2013 2:09 PM
> > To: detomaso at poca.com
> > Cc: mangusta at mangustainternational.com; Roger Brotton;
> > <mangusta1 at comcast.net>; Fred; steven.liebenow at att.net
> > Subject: [DeTomaso] What are the odds....
> >
> > ....that you are just driving around, happen to come up to a stoplight,
and
> > find this sitting in front of you!
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > ------------------------------
> >
> > Message: 14
> > Date: Fri, 20 Dec 2013 18:51:33 -0600
> > From: John Taphorn <jtaphorn at kingwoodcable.com>
> > To: Mike Drew <MikeLDrew at aol.com>, detomaso at poca.com
> > Cc: Roger Brotton <rogerkbrotton at yahoo.com>,
> > mangusta at mangustainternational.com, Fred <fred at focusauto.com>,
> > "<mangusta1 at comcast.net>" <mangusta1 at comcast.net>,
> > steven.liebenow at att.net
> > Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] What are the odds....
> > Message-ID: <52B4E615.2020704 at kingwoodcable.com>
> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"; Format="flowed"
> >
> > That's crazy. I can't believe that you didn't follow it to it's
> > destination or pull the driver over. It was Mike Drew who posted this
> > pic, I believe.
> >
> >
> > On 12/20/2013 4:08 PM, Mike Drew wrote:
> >> ....that you are just driving around, happen to come up to a stoplight,
> > and find this sitting in front of you!
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Mike
> >>
> >>
> >> Sent from my iPhone
> >>
> >>
> >> _______________________________________________
> >>
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> > Message: 15
> > Date: Fri, 20 Dec 2013 21:20:48 -0500
> > From: Will Kooiman <will.kooiman at gmail.com>
> > To: Janne M?ki-Pet?j? <eb0711 at kolumbus.fi>, <detomaso at poca.com>
> > Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Electric Choke, yes or no?
> > Message-ID: <CEDA64A0.6819A%will.kooiman at gmail.com
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> >
> > If I remember correctly, the factory chokes drew air either from the
> > exhaust manifolds or from under the intake, through the choke housing,
and
> > then through a vacuum port - in order to suck the air.
> >
> > I don't know if the electric chokes can do both. It might be one or the
> > other.
> >
> > --
> > Will
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > On 12/20/13 3:00 PM, "Janne M?ki-Pet?j?" <eb0711 at kolumbus.fi> wrote:
> >
> >> Although it's not often seen, it's entirely possible to use metal choke
> >> tube connected to manifold heat source, with electric choke as well.
> >> That'll give a heat source to the coil always when the engine is warm,
> >> and choke will still go off electrically little faster when it's cold.
> >>
> >> Janne
> >>
> >> 19.12.2013 22.09, Mikael kirjoitti:
> >>> A word about electric chokes, I know this is not what was asked, but
> >>> that
> >>> won't stop me...
> >>>
> >>> On my Longchamp, semi-mild daily driver, yes definitely an electric
> >>> choke.
> >>>
> >>> But on a Pantera, especially a fast one, I wouldn't want one. I would
> >>> rather
> >>> rev it a bit with the throttle for the first minutes. The main problem
> >>> with
> >>> an electric choke (connected to proper 12V) is that if you leave the
car
> >>> parked for an hour and get back and start it, the choke will be fully
> >>> on and
> >>> take a little while to go off, and the engine doesn't need it. That
> >>> means
> >>> too rich mixture for a while, which washes oil off the cylinder walls.
> >>> And
> >>> if you have a high performance engine with narrow tuning tolerances
and
> >>> colder plugs, maybe even race plugs, the plugs can foul up due to this
> >>> choke
> >>> action. If you then do the wrong thing, look at your plugs and
conclude
> >>> that
> >>> you need more lean jetting, then it really starts to get dangerous. In
> >>> short, high performance engines shouldn't have an electric choke, it
> >>> should
> >>> have manual cable operated choke (difficult in a Pantera) or no choke
at
> >>> all. Divorced chokes are a bit better than electric chokes, but rarely
> >>> seen
> >>> these days.
> >>> (And on a totally unscientific note: The sound of the engine when
almost
> >>> warm, idling just above the rpm where it would die, that sound is
> >>> fantastic)
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Just my $0.02
> >>>
> >>> Mvh/Regards
> >>> Mikael
> >>>
> >>> -----Oprindelig meddelelse-----
> >>> Fra: John Buckman [mailto:jb841 at cox.net]
> >>> Sendt: 19. december 2013 19:17
> >>> Til: detomaso at poca.com
> >>> Emne: Re: [DeTomaso] Electric Choke
> >>>
> >>> Why are we running a new wire? I just used the wire that is in the OEM
> >>> loom. It still works great. Look at your wiring diagram.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>>>> The short answer is that connecting the electric choke to the
> >>>>>> existing
> >>> ignition wire can act as a rev limiter for your ignition system.
> >>>
> >>> If you do not use a relay, and if you are not using the factory
> >>> throttler
> >>> position solenoid, there will be a red wire at the (approximate)
center
> >>> of
> >>> the firewall that can be extended to the new electric choke's PLUS (+)
> >>> terminal.
> >>>
> >>> John
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> _______________________________________________
> >>>
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> >>
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> >
> >
> >
> >
> > ------------------------------
> >
> > Message: 16
> > Date: Sat, 21 Dec 2013 02:24:05 +0000
> > From: Bill Lewis <lotus0005 at hotmail.com>
> > To: PANTERA-MikeDrew <mikeldrew at aol.com>, "detomaso at poca.com"
> > <detomaso at poca.com>
> > Cc: Roger Brotton <rogerkbrotton at yahoo.com>,
> > "mangusta at mangustainternational.com"
> > <mangusta at mangustainternational.com>, Fred <fred at focusauto.com>,
> > "mangusta1 at comcast.net" <mangusta1 at comcast.net>,
> > "steven.liebenow at att.net" <steven.liebenow at att.net>
> > Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] What are the odds....
> > Message-ID: <BAY173-W47CF6ACF3684508B2B6AA8BBC70 at phx.gbl>
> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
> >
> > Mike, I haven't read all the threads, so WHAT did you do? What were you
> > driving (VW)? ---BILL L
> >
> > From: MikeLDrew at aol.com
> > Date: Fri, 20 Dec 2013 14:08:58 -0800
> > To: detomaso at poca.com
> > CC: mangusta at mangustainternational.com; rogerkbrotton at yahoo.com;
> > mangusta1 at comcast.net; fred at focusauto.com; steven.liebenow at att.net
> > Subject: [DeTomaso] What are the odds....
> >
> > ....that you are just driving around, happen to come up to a stoplight,
and
> > find this sitting in front of you!
> > 
> >
> > Mike
> >
> >
> > Sent from my iPhone
> > _______________________________________________
> >
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> > Message: 17
> > Date: Fri, 20 Dec 2013 22:52:39 -0500 (EST)
> > From: MikeLDrew at aol.com
> > To: detomaso at POCA.com
> > Subject: [DeTomaso] NPC: Christmas dog....
> > Message-ID: <43794.5a2859e0.3fe66a87 at aol.com>
> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
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> > Hi guys,
> >
> > Anybody who has ever had a dog will certainly recognize this look! :>)
> >
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> > Message: 18
> > Date: Sat, 21 Dec 2013 13:23:18 +0000 (UTC)
> > From: rfmccall at comcast.net
> > To: detomaso <detomaso at poca.com>
> > Subject: [DeTomaso] Rear deck lid hinge
> > Message-ID:
> > 
> >
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> >
> > Mark,
> >
> >
> >
> > I have lots of that kind of stuff.
> >
> > I will email you .
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> > Message: 19
> > Date: Sat, 21 Dec 2013 13:25:05 +0000 (UTC)
> > From: rfmccall at comcast.net
> > To: detomaso <detomaso at poca.com>
> > Subject: [DeTomaso] Rear deck lid hinge
> > Message-ID:
> > 
> >
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> >
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> > Mark,
> >
> >
> >
> > I have lots of that sort of stuff. I will email you .
> >
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