[DeTomaso] advice on seats

Wed Dec 18 08:26:08 EST 2013

Which idler would be my question... I assume we're talking about the water
pump belt?

He put a flat idler on mine which pushes the belt the wrong way (inwards)
and the belt goes south real fast.
Especially a 'cogged' V belt. They don't like that.
I knew that from my hick country farm boy days, but I tried it anyway just
for the hell of it and to prove a point.
Yes, I know... you can probably do it and get away with it if the bend in
the belt is minimal, but in this case it's not.

It didn't work...
Lots of little pieces of belt coming off and the belt coming apart.

I ended up having to put the 'V' pulley idler type on which pushes the belt
outwards.

As for the 'flat firewall kit' (which is a misnomer since it isn't really
flat),...
I have the passenger Recaro modified as per Mr. Drew's description so I
don't find any value in that kit.
Quite a bit of money and it really accomplished nothing in my case.

FWIW
Kirby

On Wed, Dec 18, 2013 at 6:25 AM, Will Kooiman <will.kooiman at gmail.com>wrote:

> The flat firewall mod is easy too.
>
> Take off the old parts.  Bolt in the new parts.  And then the seat goes
> all the way back.  It even looks like the factory did it.
>
> The only difficult part is dealing with the A/C compressor.  If you have
> working A/C you probably don't want to open the lines, so you are fiddling
> with a compressor in a tight space with the lines pushing the compressor
> around.
>
> And there's the part about the v-belt.  I didn't want to use the short
> belt that doesn't use an idler, so I bought an idler from Dennis and that
> uses a slightly longer belt.  It was an easy mod, but it meant another
> phone call and waiting on the idler.
> --
> Will
>
> From: Mike Drew <MikeLDrew at aol.com>
> Date: Tuesday, December 17, 2013 11:16 PM
> To: John Donahue <demongusta at me.com>
> Cc: "DeTomaso at poca.com" <DeTomaso at poca.com>
>
> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] advice on seats
>
> In a word--no. For that you need a flat firewall kit.
>
> Dennis Quella used to open up Recaros and heat/bend the tube frame to
> allow more clearance to the hump, but it's not as effective as the flat
> firewall mod....
>
> Mike
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Dec 17, 2013, at 20:11, John Donahue <demongusta at me.com> wrote:
>
> In all the "seat talk" - do any/all allow the passenger seat to miss the
> "bubble" and go all the way back?
> Jack
> 4348
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> On Dec 17, 2013, at 6:04 PM, LS <lashdeep at yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> Chris, I would suggest getting your Recaros recovered. You already have
> them and you know they fit.
>
> They are one of the best seats out there.
>
> I have black Momo race seats in my car since the original standard seats
> were torture devices. Also, Momo was an original supplier to Detomaso and
> that was part of the decision.
>
> Fiero or Corvette seats in a Pantera? Sounds interesting but heavy...
>
> LS
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>  *From:* Christopher Kimball <chrisvkimball at msn.com>
> *To:* Will Kooiman <will.kooiman at gmail.com>; Ken Green <
> kenn_green at yahoo.com>
> *Cc:* Pantera list serve <detomaso at poca.com>
> *Sent:* Sunday, December 15, 2013 11:45 PM
> *Subject:* Re: [DeTomaso] advice on seats
>
> I've seen that brand before--I might check them out.  But I really like
> the way the Recaros feel.
>
> Chris
>
> ------------------------------
> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] advice on seats
> From: will.kooiman at gmail.com
> Date: Sun, 15 Dec 2013 23:39:50 -0500
> CC: chrisvkimball at msn.com; detomaso at poca.com
> To: kenn_green at yahoo.com
>
> Find a dealer that has Corbeau seats.  Try an LG-1.  I haven't driven my
> car with these seats yet, but they fit the car nicely, and they were
> comfortable at the shop.
>
> I mounted mine to the floor with Porsche 911 mounts.  The Porsche has a
> flat floor pan, similar to a Pantera.
>
> On Dec 15, 2013, at 6:58 PM, Ken Green <kenn_green at yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> I bought a pair of Sparco Milano seats covered in a fake suede
> (Alcantara?) material and they fit me really well, but I had to remove the
> parking brake handle to make enough room for the passenger seat.
>
> I think a good upholstery shop can replace the padding when they recover
> the seats, and inspect the frames.  That seems like the best option.
>
> Ken
>    *From:* Christopher Kimball <chrisvkimball at msn.com>
> *To:* Pantera list serve <detomaso at poca.com>
> *Sent:* Sunday, December 15, 2013 10:44 AM
> *Subject:* [DeTomaso] advice on seats
>
> Hi Everyone,
>
> In the next 6 months or so I'm hoping to make some changes in Pandora's
> seats, and I need some sage advice.
>
> The seats in her now are Recaros--the kind that have the lower section
> that can pull in or out for more leg support.  They are really comfortable,
> and the only improvement as far as how they feel would be a little more
> lumbar support.
>
> Nevertheless, the cloth on the seats is starting to look worn.  I was
> planning on having them recovered in leather, with suede down the middle,
> and when I checked the pricing for that to be done (a year or two ago) I
> think it was going to cost between $1200 and $1400.  The seats are probably
> from the '80's, and I'm afraid getting them recovered might be tantamount
> to putting new wine in old wineskins, as it were.  For all I know, the foam
> might be just about to collapse, or the frame just about to wear out.
>
> So, here's the question:  Should I pay the money to get the current seats
> recovered, or sell them and use the money towards new Recaros.  I looked at
> some Recaros on-line, and the prices astounded me--over $3,000 each!
>  Still, in trying to save money, I don't want to throw good money after bad.
>
> Opinions will be appreciated.
>
> Thanks!
>
> Chris
>
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