[DeTomaso] F1 Experience

Kirby Schrader kirby.schrader at gmail.com
Wed Dec 11 08:37:17 EST 2013


Wandering off into the weeds slightly here...
I've never met Dan nor have I even seen him in person, but if I make a lot
of assumptions (probably a dumb thing to do), he must be of the long torso,
short legs make up.

Every GT40 (original and SPF) I've sat in with a Gurney bubble always had
the bubble too far forward for my head to fit 'in it'.

I'm the opposite.. 6' 2", 215lbs (yes, I need to lose some weight!) but
with long legs and a short torso.
Hence, I have no Gurney bubble in my car. Instead, I have next to no
padding in my seat behind my back so that I can get back as far as possible
to get my legs in the car. Oh, and I don't like the looks of the bubble
either. Kinda' detracts from the lines of the car, but that's just my
opinion.

Dunno why... just thought I'd say that... back to our originally scheduled
programming.
But yeah, in general, losing weight is a 'good idea'. You are healthier and
the car goes faster!
:-)

Kirby



On Tue, Dec 10, 2013 at 9:40 PM, michael at michaelshortt.com <
michael at michaelshortt.com> wrote:

> Dan Gurney was 6'3" tall and about 210 lbs.
> On Dec 10, 2013 10:32 PM, "Jack Donahue" <demongusta at me.com> wrote:
>
>> The GT40 that Gurney drove had a bubble in the roof so he could fit into
>> it.
>>
>> On Dec 10, 2013, at 4:38 PM, Gray Gregory wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>  *From:* Gray Gregory
>> *Sent:* Tuesday, December 10, 2013 6:27 PM
>> *To:* 'michael at michaelshortt.com'
>> *Subject:* RE: [DeTomaso] F1 Experience
>>
>> All the old time drivers I’ve met (except Dan Gurney and A.J. Foyt) have
>> been pretty small so I think they would probably fit fine. I’ve also tried
>> to get into a lot of old F1 cars and I haven’t found one yet I can fit into
>> very well, so the cars weren’t very big either. :>)
>>
>> As for the power steering, yes the modern cars do but they also make a
>> lot more down force and have much more grip, so “man handling” one through
>> a fast sweeper is still probably pretty much the same or maybe even harder
>> today…
>>
>> Gray
>>
>> *From:* DeTomaso [mailto:detomaso-bounces at poca.com] *On Behalf Of *
>> michael at michaelshortt.com
>> *Sent:* Tuesday, December 10, 2013 12:30 PM
>> *To:* LS
>> *Cc:* detomaso at poca.com; jderyke at aol.com; pantera at austin.rr.com
>> *Subject:* Re: [DeTomaso] F1 Experience
>>
>> Most certainly do not have the balls the way they whine, in the glory
>> years of F1, there was 10% chance you would die
>> during a race, Thank goodness Jackie Stewart and others implements safety
>> measures that have evolved to the
>> current streak of deathless seasons ( Since Senna)
>> Modern F1 cars have power steering ( for a car that weighs 1,600ish lbs )
>> in a time limited race with a shorter courses.
>> I'd bet that none of the  50's,60 era drivers that could manhandle those
>> cars could fit in a modern car.
>>
>> Michael
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Dec 10, 2013 at 1:10 PM, LS <lashdeep at yahoo.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>> It is difficult to compare regular people like us with professionals.
>>
>> New drivers are world class athletes. NASCAR drivers are sometimes world
>> class athletes with baby bumps.
>>
>> Do the new, super fit and strong drivers have the skill and style to
>> drive the old cars?
>>
>> Some do, some don't...
>>
>>
>> LS
>>
>>
>>
>>
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>>  ------------------------------
>> *From:* "michael at michaelshortt.com" <michael at michaelshortt.com>
>> *To:* mark skwarek <ehpantera at yahoo.com>
>> *Cc:* "jderyke at aol.com" <jderyke at aol.com>; "lashdeep at yahoo.com" <
>> lashdeep at yahoo.com>; "pantera at austin.rr.com" <pantera at austin.rr.com>; "
>> detomaso at poca.com" <detomaso at poca.com>
>> *Sent:* Monday, December 9, 2013 8:48 PM
>>
>> *Subject:* Re: [DeTomaso] F1 Experience
>>
>> The modern F1 driver is about 5'5" - 5'9" and 135 - 160 lbs.
>> Weber was the last tall one and if you remember, Kubica looked almost
>> dead when he went from 165 to 150 by team orders.
>>
>> The old guard would never be able to get into the these new  cars and I
>> doubt the new drivers would have the strength to manhandle the older cars.
>>
>> Michael
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Dec 9, 2013 at 7:04 PM, mark skwarek <ehpantera at yahoo.com> wrote:
>> There are track day events at most of the NASCAR tracks. Go take your
>> Pantera out for a ride. You will be even more impressed as to what it can
>> do. I love the Daytona road course.
>> Mark
>>
>>
>> On Monday, December 9, 2013 6:15 PM, "jderyke at aol.com" <jderyke at aol.com>
>> wrote:
>> Hi Richard. When a couple of hundred POCA members visited the Minardi
>> factory during the DeTomaso Factory Tour in '96, only little skinny drivers
>> could fit in their display car- all women. Things must have changed....
>> Wish I'd been there, but at 6"2 and 190 lbs I have no illusions I'd fit
>> today, either!  Cheers to you in S. TX- J Deryke
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: LS <lashdeep at yahoo.com>
>> To: Richard Greenblum <pantera at austin.rr.com>; deTomaso Forum <
>> detomaso at poca.com>
>> Sent: Mon, Dec 9, 2013 2:42 pm
>> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] F1 Experience
>> Sounds amazing...any pics or video?
>>
>> Thanks,
>> LS
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> *central*
>> *wines-spirits   est 1934*
>>
>> *625 e street nw*
>> *washington, dc 20004*
>>
>> *centralwines.com <http://centralwines.com/>*
>>
>> *facebook.com/CentralLiquors <http://facebook.com/CentralLiquors>*
>>
>> *202-737-2800 <202-737-2800>*
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* Richard Greenblum <pantera at austin.rr.com>
>> *To:* deTomaso Forum <detomaso at poca.com>
>> *Sent:* Monday, December 9, 2013 4:30 PM
>> *Subject:* [DeTomaso] F1 Experience
>>
>> All,
>>
>> I was very surprised that no one from Houston, or anywhere else in Texas,
>> was signed up to ride in the F1 cars on Friday at COTA (the Austin F1
>> track).  Of if you were, I just didn't recognize you.
>>
>> We weren't sure it would even go in the weather, but I was in the
>> afternoon session which was dry, and we rode on slicks.  The morning was
>> wet, but they still ran the cars, only on full wets.
>>
>> I can't tell you how incredible the experience was.  I strongly recommend
>> signing up.  I understand they're coming back to COTA tentatively on 22
>> March and 20 October.  I originally thought it was a bit expensive—I don't
>> anymore.  It was worth every penny.
>>
>> Richard
>> Austin, TX
>> #7080
>>
>>
>>
>>
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